I'm sorry america is filled with immigrants

we're literally all immigrants

incremental political change will change this

not an argument

I don't care about current demographic realities or your notions of identity

explain why we should allow immigration

we will impose our own notions

Immigrants contribute economically

as a new elite over time, maybe not me specifically but people *like* m

Especially in america

me*

the vast majority are a net loss

no they don't

anything we've gained we've lost ten times over

most immigrants who come to this coutnry are highly educated and preform jonbs

not fact man

Excuse me are african americans immigrants?

but my argument isn't economic

hispanics are generally

regardless, there's also inverse assimilation rates per generation to consider

their low IQ's

their lack of adherence to our social and sexual standards

and their contempt for our religion

All sounds great to me.

how is that good?

don't troll, this isn't main or banter

argue seriously

Well I value a diverse culture.

I would also rather have a homogenous society than worship the economy at my own expense

i'd prefer some cultrual values get eroded for progressive ones.

your values are irrelevant, you will be imposed upon by a new elite

there are lots of things that benefit the economy at the expense of the nation

the current progressive system is failing rapidly

I find the personal benefits of diversity outweight the negatives

they do not

there is no evidence of this

what benefits?

lmao

I could say your values are also irrelevant.

your values are weak, in that you will be dominated by people like me in the long run

Economically many companies benefit from immigrant labor

so?

they benefit temporarily

they also benefit from a lot of terrible, immoral shit

but then the system collapses

because of social cost of these people

and their lack of assimilation

it's a temporary influx of cash flow

followed by a systemic collapse

DUde I'm trying to take you seriously

high time preference failure

since when do progressives care so much about how big business does?

I think low time preference.

but your acting like western civilizatino is gonna come crashing down because of brown people

It already is sort of

why is everything so cataclysmic with you people?

it's going to happen incrementally

Poverty is at a world wide low

War is at all time low

I don't think it will be a dramatic cataclysm per se

more like a slow decline

into obscurity

I don't see anything bad happening.

I feel like your just scared of being replaced.

I don't.

I value indivudals and want the best for everyone.

https://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/09/16/delingpole-civil-war-is-coming-to-europe-warns-german-politician/

We should in a best case scenario in an open an tolerant society that helps all its members including you guy

there's tons of examples like this

You all just sound scared.

spontaneous riots in chemnitz

economic collapse

no not at all

I am not scared of liberals

I find you weak

in a war we could easily crush your families

Brietbart has no fact checks

Damn man

do you have a soul?

neoliberal elites are more the threat than their followers

do you believe in souls?

Like for real, do compassion and love mean nothing to you?

why would I love you?

Who hurt you?

the cia, nsa, fbi etc. the people who defend the plutocracy are who we are really playing chess with

Cause we're humans.

I care about you.

So?

you people are just pawns

I want the best for you.

the feeling isn't mutual

I don't buy the "humanism" thing

It's just a value I have, and if more people thought like me I'd value you.

I don't care about non whites largely

I don't wish them ill

SO your a dataist then>

?

You value power primarily?

Again your talking about your feelings just like i am