stop slandering me

And ?

If sola fide real

Revelation 14:13

**Revelation 14:13 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<13> And I heard a voice from heaven, saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, who die in the Lord. From henceforth now, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; for their works follow them. ```

an organization which tortured kids for experiments

Why do works follow them

and you're a "Christian" like wut

what is this clown world

@king why do works follow the dead if sola fide real

Revelation 14:13

**Revelation 14:13 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<13> And I heard a voice from heaven, saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, who die in the Lord. From henceforth now, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; for their works follow them. ```

how can you justify supporting the fucking cia of all agencies and larp that you're a Christian?

Yes because a pfp totally disproves my faith

saying that you will be rewarded for good deeds doesnt mean you get to ignore christ and say you have to do good deeds to go to heaven

you have said you support them

Actual faggot

in the past

Stop slandering me you cuck

honorary faggot

@TradChad has he not said he supports the cia before?

Even more stalling
https://twitter.com/yashar/status/1047690994244706305?s=19

@TradChad F-faith and works man

@Turia that;s not what sola fide is

This is character assassination

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] I don't care to get involved

Sola fide say works no matter

lol it's true though

https://books.google.com/books?id=mffc2m9D3REC&pg=PA15&lpg=PA15&dq=national+council+of+churches+esalen&source=bl&ots=mHIuVuaDCE&sig=L4rBZOo7iv_68WTFfVB58rdO1gk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiM6_yV8OvdAhXlzFQKHUDLAW8Q6AEwBXoECAEQAQ#v=onepage&q=national%20council%20of%20churches%20esalen&f=false

but if works no matter

Why do works follow the dead

Revelation 14:13

**Revelation 14:13 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<13> And I heard a voice from heaven, saying to me: Write: Blessed are the dead, who die in the Lord. From henceforth now, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; for their works follow them. ```

Literal slander

Fuck off heathen

so you don't support the cia?

Hmm

inb4 deflection

lol

I won’t have Vedic pagans doubting my faith in god

lmao

see

saying that you get rewarded for good deeds

How do i get Christian

Im a SDA

doesnt counter that you get into heaven through christ alone

Why is it such a surprise that you have to be a good person to get into heaven ? @Turia

So call me legalist or whatever

James 2:14-26

**James 2:14-26 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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Faith without Works Is Dead

<14> What good is it, my brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but do not have works? Can faith save you? <15> If a brother or sister is naked and lacks daily food, <16> and one of you says to them, "Go in peace; keep warm and eat your fill," and yet you do not supply their bodily needs, what is the good of that? <17> So faith by itself, if it has no works, is dead. <18> But someone will say, "You have faith and I have works." Show me your faith apart from your works, and I by my works will show you my faith. <19> You believe that God is one; you do well. Even the demons believe—and shudder. <20> Do you want to be shown, you senseless person, that faith apart from works is barren? <21> Was not our ancestor Abraham justified by works when he offered his son Isaac on the altar? <22> You see that faith was active along with his works, and faith was brought to completion by the works. <23> Thus the scripture was fulfilled that says, "Abraham believed God, and it was reckoned to him as righteousness," and he was called the friend of God. <24> You see that a person is justified by works and not by faith alone. <25> Likewise, was not Rahab the prostitute also justified by works when she welcomed the messengers and sent them out by another road? <26> For just as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is also dead. ```

if you believe in christ you will be a good person

@Outboarduniform can you answer the question of whether you support the cia or not?

people lie about believing all the time

Not inherently true in the slightest @Turia

No really

@Chancellor Federalist <#421510868325498890>

Sola Fide is pretty dumb tbqh

If Christ saves those who believe in him

You need both works and faith kek

and the fruit of the saved are good deeds

then they will do good deeds

hey man turia man

Romans 10:14-15

**Romans 10:14-15 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

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<14> How then shall they call on him, in whom they have not believed? Or how shall they believe him, of whom they have not heard? And how shall they hear, without a preacher? <15> And how shall they preach unless they be sent, as it is written: How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, of them that bring glad tidings of good things! ```

if they are saved

What do these verses mean

to you

sola fide theoretically implies psychopathic mass murderers who have faith get saved

you can't have faith if you do that

?

implying that these people dont lie

You’re saying I can’t believe in god and kill somebody ?

Delusion

what if they really did though?

no

@Turia Why did you ignore this:
James 2:14-26

**James 2:14-26 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<14> What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? <15> If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, <16> And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? <17> Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. <18> Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. <19> Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. <20> But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? <21> Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? <22> Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? <23> And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. <24> Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. <25> Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? <26> For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ```

are you saying killing someone is the same as a psychopathic mass murderer?

that's rediculous

......

difference between killing in a war or self defense and murder

Romans 1:20 as well

**Romans 1:20 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**

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<20> Ever since the creation of the world his eternal power and divine nature, invisible though they are, have been understood and seen through the things he has made. So they are without excuse; ```

Killing is always immoral

that's impossible

There is no difference outside of circumstance

since God commands people to kill in the bible

says the cia fan

lmao

God literally cannot be immoral

Murder is an unjustified killing

^

This is a straw man of an argument

Those were justified killings

dude, you can't bitch about le killing is bad

lol

then support the cia

buzzword

what about torture?

is torture good now?

Vril as I repeat myself your opinion is worthless rn

Moving on

lmao

Colossians 1:24

**Colossians 1:24 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<24> Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church: ```

you're such a fake person dood

bludgeoning a child to death =/= drunk driving and killing somone =/= being distracting behind the wheel =/= killing someone who jumps in front of your car

I just let it stand for itself

there are degrees to morality

Indeed there are

I think the issue is that there is no alternative European theology which does not involve the tribe rn.

the fallen angels europe worshipped are all dead

We have integrated these people into our lives to such a degree that they now have control over many of our institutions.

Worshiping them is just part of that dominance they have rn

Vril why do I have to keep repeating myself your positive Christian/Vedic heathenist opinion is worthless

Moving on again

@king

@Outboarduniform excellent rebuttal

Kek

@king

another one

I have another good one king

@king

@Turia so you believe in Sola Gratia then ?

The thing about Morality is that it's not rocket science. It's not "making the most people feel the best" or "maximum utility"
Morality is encoded in man and revealed through nature. The Bible expands upon what's already evident in man.

catholics and protestants both believe that

The bible does not really touch advanced moral dilemmas though. And the contradictions where Yahweh commands genocide of children are just dismissed.

What

Catholics do not believe in Sola Gratia

they do with semantic differences

Well Yahweh isn't man, so morality isn't really applicable...?

works come through grace given by God

@333 by that logic the Baal worshipers can say the same thing

without works you're not saved in the first place

no catholics believe in grace alone @Outboarduniform

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Explain please?

Baal is not man therefore murdering children for Baal is cool too

see how it's equivalent?

you cant live a life without works if you truly believe in God and Christ

@agag

Except that it's not

how so

@agag

@TradChad what

Faith is what spawns works

Do you believe that sacrificing children to an idol is moral?

USA

if you have no faith, why would you do good works or even attempt to get into heaven

what is LXX

you wouldnt believe in heaven

septuagint

Why does turia say LXX is fake

@333 no, the example was made purely to prove your Yahweh is as immoral in the OT as the Baal cults at least in some parts

why does turia say LXX is fake

i didnt say it was fake

@333 Child sacrifice is based

dont put words in my mouth

stop generalizing

what did he say

Turia thinks LXX canon is bs

why

James 2:14-26

Idk!

**James 2:14-26 - King James Version (KJV)**

```Dust


<14> What doth it profit, my brethren, though a man say he hath faith, and have not works? can faith save him? <15> If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, <16> And one of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled; notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body; what doth it profit? <17> Even so faith, if it hath not works, is dead, being alone. <18> Yea, a man may say, Thou hast faith, and I have works: shew me thy faith without thy works, and I will shew thee my faith by my works. <19> Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble. <20> But wilt thou know, O vain man, that faith without works is dead? <21> Was not Abraham our father justified by works, when he had offered Isaac his son upon the altar? <22> Seest thou how faith wrought with his works, and by works was faith made perfect? <23> And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, Abraham believed God, and it was imputed unto him for righteousness: and he was called the Friend of God. <24> Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only. <25> Likewise also was not Rahab the harlot justified by works, when she had received the messengers, and had sent them out another way? <26> For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. ```

Why are all of you ignoring this one

don't the prots ignore kjv

no

Fine, just use a different version

Prots ignore scripture when it pleases them @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩]

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] wha-

prots wrote kjv

kjv is the prot bible

lol

well then they're pretty stupid

Protestants HATE calling the blessed virgin mary blessed

no they dont

but then again these are the people who bless Israel

so what do you expect

have you been to a protestant church?

blessing israel is a recent thing

@king hey man look man

Luke 1:46-49

**Luke 1:46-49 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**

```Dust


<46> And Mary said: My soul doth magnify the Lord. <47> And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour. <48> Because he hath regarded the humility of his handmaid; for behold from henceforth all generations shall call me blessed. <49> Because he that is mighty, hath done great things to me; and holy is his name. ```

Yeah?

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] No... I think you're mistaking what I mean. If Yahweh exists, definitely - why would His creation (which is in His total Jurisdiction) have to abide by a moral code that was written into nature by him, as a guiding principle for people to be redeemed?

catholics bless israel too in the states

it's a propaganda issue

jews taking over post ww2 and changing our culture is not solely a protestant thing

do you think the pope from pre ww2 would allow gay marriage?

@333 Ok, but my point is that Yahweh has double standards. He punishes the Baal-ist cults with genocide of children and families, but when the jews do the same thing many times he does not punish them the same way. In fact he fogives them a lot.

or let christians die for israel?

the pope post ww2 doesn't either

Why does this supposedly perfectly just being play favorites?

the pope from post ww2 doesn't allow gay marriage

the current pope goes against hundreds of years of teaching all the time

the answer is the being is not God of the universe, but at best a tribal deity or maybe a demon or something

@🛠 CommunistGod 🛠 no dox

It's public

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Yeah, because there's a Covenant. He also punishes Jews as part of the generational cycle.

He's saying that he won't apologize

ok

In 120 years all who are alive today will be dead <:TrumpSmile:356316463490924561>

@333 ok, but these pagans who were slaughtered for being pagan (the jewish justification for it) had no chance to know this Yahweh

he never revealed himself to anyone but the jews

The Pope allows gay marriage?

@Soyeb absolutely not the case

That is news to me

so why were they then slaughtered?

When God punishes (((them))) one more time it will be great. Hope I'm around to witness it.

for a crime they could not help but commit?

@king I think that turia just makes up lies about christianity

prots are satanists

@Supreme Leader Kim 🧧 why would the hebrew God which manifested as a hebrew kill all the hebrews?

wew

doesn't make sense

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Are we assuming Yahweh exists in reality or that Yahweh is just a character in their scripture?

what's with the slander

i'm not insulting you

Oo

why did you heavily imply the pope allows gay marriage

that is slander

because of what's being shown in the news about his beliefs and the rules he's changing?

the pope has not changed a single rule regarding homosexual marriage

nor said anything positive about homosexual marriage

@333 I actually think Yahweh does exist, however I don't believe it is the God of the universe. Imo it is a powerful demonic entity.

Many gays here doesn't respect consent and ask straight guys to make out with them. Speaking from experience <:TriumphantPartner:433294809856475147>

yeehaw

I also don't think Christ had anything to do with Yahweh, it was just projected unto him and his teachings.

He never refers to God as "the Lord" or Yahweh

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Oh, do you believe he's a Fallen Angel? I've read articles about this "theory" of sort.

only Father or Heavenly Father

No I'm not a gnostic

I think that Yahweh is what in Vedic scripture is called an Asura

he has been quoted as telling gays god made them that way

a demonic being which makes pacts with humans

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] What do you think of the New Testament God? He is all loving, contradicts the OT God a lot

and has allowed for gay leaders in the church

no he hasn't

*asura*

usually for land

and power

yes he has

*devil* = *asura* ?

yes, Lucifer is also demonic

Jesus does refer to his father as yahweh

show me one quote from a reliable source where the pope says god made gays that way

the antagonists in the bible are not good either

@Immensa No he actually never does