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@Vril-Gesellschaft ```It could be he came to save them from their folly```
Yet He doesn't do it the way you wanted it to be
Vril, Christ calls himself Yahweh
Why doesnโt TRS have elections, a little campaigning canโt hurt
debatable
the church could have lied to maintain power
you mean change Holy Scripture?
democracy is stupid and gay and sucks pee pee
seriously dude?
>church lying
@Quasi change interpretations yes
not necessarily change the text itself
No, not interpretations
The Vatican always lying
when u see it
@PainSeeker5 TRS is not a democracy
Every time
you think a church which has degraded to the point of accepting homosexuals can't lie?
orthos have not
but I am talking catholicism
you're talking about the modern day church
Trs is a republic, not a filthy democracy
yes but the argument goes both ways
no one likes faggos
let's be real
if they can lie in the modern day
and we're talking about an ancient problem
unless u like dick
why not in the past?
@Mord Iโd still vote for you
@Mord โค
there is no definitive reason why their lying in the modern day is limited to the modern day
>why not in the past
because they weren't as bad?
Mord would be my vice president
@Chilliam Ace where have you been, dude
but this suggests a gradation which could have started back then
yeah, but no definitive reason their lying is the same s back them
then
wth I'm defending catholics
@Chilliam Ace BROTHER
@PainSeeker5 are you going to attend DN tonight
@Chilliam Ace this place has more orthobros than I thought
I actually think portions of the OT are legit
@Mord for sure
epic
I got good points
im asking again
I know you are gonna disagree with
110%
but I reject things like esther
FALLOUT 3 OR NEW VEGAS?
where God literally lies
@Living The Dream ๐ Hey man! @Quasi Das Rite. @Mord Really busy week IRL. I'm back now fam
Neither
he sends spirits to lie to the non jews
which I don't think God can do
God cannot lie
or do something evil
@Quasi he called hitler the second coming of Christ and said the Bible should be taken with a grain of salt
he's "orthodox"
Who said that
lmao
@doxe59 New Vegas is better but is ruined because the ending ends the game reguardless of DLC. FO3 you need the broken steel DLC. I say Fallout 3 ~ If BETHESDA didn't rush the game it would have been far better than New Vegas
chilliam
Iโd be surprised if anyone has anything to agree with what I say in tonightโs debate
@Chilliam Ace no, absolutely wrong. fucking hell
Christ fulfilled the Law and prophecy, He didn't reprimand them for the actions you criticized them.
```he sends spirits to lie to the non jews
which I don't think God can do
God cannot lie
or do something evil```
And in Joshua, Joshua tricks the enemy
@agag I found you trying to steal from Vril
please take chilliam's brainiac role away NOW, he said fo3 is better than new vegas
@PainSeeker5 do you like gibs me dats?
@Mord wut
but where does God lie in esther, I'm curious
Oh
@Quasi the enemy meaning us right? white people? In Esther she promises peace with the king, who agrees, she then betrays him and slits his throat.
Yahweh applauds this
when it was clearly evil
@PainSeeker5 wh-
I have a different position
since the king agreed to stop attacking the israelites
@agag Iโll just show you
Gibs me dats are government handouts / programs
but she kills him anyways
Itโs on tape Usa
and cuts off his head btw
@NormieCamo No no, I said New Vegas is better XD
l wrote tonight's questions today btw
But they rushed New Vegas
oh I've seen that before lol
yea
to me I just see jewish insolence directly in those verses
I just finished NV for the first time
@Vril-Gesellschaft Ok, so? Trickery is a part of warfare
I was SO MAD.
That I found out the game ends after the battle.
all warfare is deception - Sun Tzu
Yea i remember
So there's literally NO POINT.
@Quasi he agreed to end the war
she still killed him
or maybe he was lying
Spoks
No, the story specifically says he was a man of his word.
She was just an evil k.ike
I never played it again after that. But that was a couple of weeks ago. Maybe I'll get less salty over time @NormieCamo
@Mord I donโt think we should keep our current system/increase funding nor we should privatize it
Thatโs a hint
that's how games are supposed to end, you save before you complete the final quest. that quest has far-reaching implications for every character in the game, and it would be silly to allow you to continue doing normal quests after the final quest
that's just one example
@doxe59 Slavic lands
```No, the story specifically says he was a man of his word.```
I don't remember esther, where does it say this
fortnite best rpg game
east and balkans
I'd have to read it again to find it, but I recall something like that being there
@NormieCamo I want to explore the end game with the choices I made having a real impact but I understand where you're coming from.
@NormieCamo this is why I hated skyrim
also God cannot lie
Nothing changes after you beat the game
are there really people in this world who like fallout 3 more than nv
I reject that notion
Made me so mad.
Q.Q
do you know how much of skyrim, for example, just makes no fucking sense AT ALL if you do the civil war and main quest first
God doesn't lie, I remember that in Tobit
God does not trick, he does not lie
There's still dragons and shit in skyrim
which is why I doubt your claim
After you beat it
You what
@Vril-Gesellschaft @Quasi you guys might want to go to <#486385308951379968> since chat is getting cluttered
@โฆ Slouch โฆ after you end the civil war everything continues the same even though the war supposedly changed so much
literally some banners change red or blue and a couple generic jarls are replaced by new generic jarls
After you beat skyrim there's still dragons
1 Kings 22:19-23
It's gay
**1 Kings 22:19-23 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<19> Then Micaiah said, "Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, with all the host of heaven standing beside him to the right and to the left of him. <20> And the Lord said, 'Who will entice Ahab, so that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' Then one said one thing, and another said another, <21> until a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord, saying, 'I will entice him.' <22> 'How?' the Lord asked him. He replied, 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then the Lord said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do it.' <23> So you see, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; the Lord has decreed disaster for you."```
civil war is the worst big questline in any elder scrolls game
Ikr
"I will go out and be a lying spirit"
that is not God
i am black
>I saw the Lord
BIG thonk
God does not lie. He does not do evil or trickery. Yahweh =/= the heavenly Father.
So the Lord (Yahweh, which is what Christ called Himself **and this is the Son speaking here**) did not lie, He sent someone to.
No one has heard or seen the Father, only the Son
I don't trust the churches, they have historically lied for power, and as we see today even the Orthodox church is not above politics
except for John the Baptist
A r t
they just schisms again
<a:DonaldPls:447791515671199754>
over politics
i am playing world war 3
because of EP
being shills
which happened post-WW2
they turned masonic due to Truman's influence
yes, but the Ortho church pandered for politics during USSR period too, they did not remain totally consistent, it's only recently when Putin revitalized the churches that they have become more like the traditional church
Truman sucked cock in office
in general churches have pandered for politics
>during the USSR
yeah no shit
I think quasi pointed out the biggest hole in your theory though @Vril-Gesellschaft
Swear words should be banned
where at?
imagine being KGB churkad by an atheistic government
jesus identifies as yahweh when he says before Abraham was I am
ROC got cut off by ROCOR
The Son is the Word of God
@Superwalter64 frick
@agag Only the kjv has God say "I am the God of your ancestors" during burning bush part
>fallout new vegas will never be complete
>you will never explore the legion side
>the legion will never be a completed faction
https://i.imgur.com/ypNfEHr.jpg
in all other versions it says "I am"
the Father doesn't directly interact with the world at all
only the Son does
@NormieCamo F E E L S B A D
this is why 10 commandments are legit
`I am`
Which is what Yahweh means
doesn't it mean "the Lord"
@Quasi so by the OT logic God can lie?
that's just a translation
1 / 1 0 2 4
and send evil spirits to lie?
Jesus Christ we live in a society.
If God can do evil then how can we trust anything in the bible? If God can lie then how is he omnibenevolent?
``` God can lie?``` =/= ```and send evil spirits to lie?```
The Lord is just a common way of translating Yahweh, look up literal Bible versions
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Yes, and in that passage I posted God lies.
Like ''day'' is actually ''yom'' which sometimes means an indefinite point of time
If you accept that, then why should you accept anything in the bible subsequently?
no, He did the latter
not the former
could it not therefore also theoretically be a deception?
Exodus 3:14 kjv
**Exodus 3:14 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<14> And God said unto Moses, I Am That I Am: and he said, Thus shalt thou say unto the children of Israel, I Am hath sent me unto you. ```
the whole basis upon which divine inspiration is legitimate is that God cannot lie
Anything He allows He does, as it is shown in Exodus
if God cannot lie, then therefore what is divinely inspired is truth
so then he can arbitrarily lie?
T R U T H
<:FeelsSmugMan:356316580143169536>
if that is so, how do you know other passages are not lies?
or deception
imagine buying world war 3 when its in early access
retard
<:npc:500426131493617684> R I S E U P
```the whole basis upon which divine inspiration is legitimate is that God cannot lie```
No, that He is God and therefore omniscient.
```so then he can arbitrarily lie?```
We both know the reasoning
@Quasi Ok so if God in your view can lie, then why should I trust the bible?
How do you know that it isn't deception?
how does that make sense retard
Exodus 6:3 kjv
**Exodus 6:3 - King James Version (KJV)**
```Dust
<3> And I appeared unto Abraham, unto Isaac, and unto Jacob, by the name of God Almighty, but by my name Jehovah was I not known to them. ```
Wtf
does god lie, yes or no
God can theoretically lie, He is omniscient.
Would it be beneficial if the FDA did biyearly (twice a year) inspections on all food and drugs available for consumption?
he does lie
@Quasi does he
in the OT
im surprised so many people said yes โ
BUM BUM BUM BUM
@NormieCamo God is the truth and the light
not what I asked
does he lie
God can't lie.
ALL food and drugs? i dont think any government agency could handle that
i just cracked hearts of iron
it would be way too expensive
man im so alpha
he does, in 1 Kings 22:19-23
@NormieCamo ''Does He'' has the implication of whether He still does. *Can* He lie? Yes.
**1 Kings 22:19-23 - New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)**
```Dust
<19> Then Micaiah said, "Therefore hear the word of the Lord: I saw the Lord sitting on his throne, with all the host of heaven standing beside him to the right and to the left of him. <20> And the Lord said, 'Who will entice Ahab, so that he may go up and fall at Ramoth-gilead?' Then one said one thing, and another said another, <21> until a spirit came forward and stood before the Lord, saying, 'I will entice him.' <22> 'How?' the Lord asked him. He replied, 'I will go out and be a lying spirit in the mouth of all his prophets.' Then the Lord said, 'You are to entice him, and you shall succeed; go out and do it.' <23> So you see, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; the Lord has decreed disaster for you."```
Ebin @Azrael
"So you see, the Lord has put a lying spirit in the mouth of all these your prophets; the Lord has decreed disaster for you.""
you know what, I'm going to look up that verse
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