if I sell a house worth 10000 dollars and one 100000, I get 2% of the commission, the wage I get is different

so in no way is it commission, your using the two terms interchangeably

at this point just dm me already any questions you have

I have nothing to dm you about __everything__ you have told me has made me 100% sure socialists arn't human

evidence please

you just were making a straw man argument all this while

and at the end you can't accept it.

I didn't accept it too at first, but I grew out of it.

How, I have told you my concern of appointed life. I believe in the freedom to pursue your own capital venture, anything less stifles innovation and growth, democracy is a slow inefficient system.

NPC more like No Playing Chicken in here boys

>agnostic
>socialist

Lol

Socialist *and* libertarian

A fucking mockery of the free market

freedom to pursue your own capital venture is fine, as long as you pay workers by they theory of SNLT. The problem under a capitalist system following the theory is that your business will. run at a loss and thus the business would shut down

Socialist libertarian that’s like a literary device that I’m too lazy to remember

and what are you talking about? innovation and productivity would skyrocket under a socialist system

@Leiro レイロ then why hasn't it?

@Leiro レイロ not when the fucking decisions are always made by vote

@WizardLizardInABlizzard it has, although the system would lack industrialization because most socialist societies Sprung out of agrarian nations

so it took time

Ah yes the USSR was so innovative and productive that millions of their own people died for the cause. Thanks Socialism.
North Korea too? World’s goin great.
How about PRC back in the Mao days? Something about a great leap?
Venezeula is doing *perfect* huh.

I brb in 10 mins needa go

I swear socialists are fucking delusional, lost in utopia never looking at how people work

https://twitter.com/dcexaminer/status/1052768761294532608?s=21

@Ben more than 70% of industry is privately owned in Venezuela, that's higher than other nations on the list.

@Ben stalinist policies were responsible for it, not socialism. North Korea? my dad told me that the full name of the DPRK is the democratic people's Republic of Korea, so they MUST be a democracy

OK while you are gone I'll bring up some points for you @Leiro レイロ 1 how can you claim flourishing innovation and growth when democracy is slower than a snail?
2 how can you claim that everyone will follow through and participate in votes when they don't want to make company desisions 3 how do you enforce socialism when a rogue innovator assembles a team, buys resources and indulges in their free will, how do you stop revolt at appointed rule 4 how do you prevent corruption

>peoples republic aka socialism

@WizardLizardInABlizzard the only good thing socialism does is provide basic needs. That's it just 1 thing nothing else.

@Living The Dream 🍀 a fucking head on your shoulders provides basic needs

@WizardLizardInABlizzard depends

@Living The Dream 🍀 read basic needs not luxury

@SweetieSquad r u OK fren?

OH

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@WizardLizardInABlizzard, of course, I'm not saying a welfare state is needed

innovation and growth would still happen even if democratic policies are slow. The industry benefits from their labour being more productive by introducing more and more efficient and better services as well as automation. The whole point is socialism is to achieve post-scarcity through innovation. This system does not utilize profit to be the key cornerstone to innovation.

2. I have already told you that if people don't decide on policies on their own, they will lose out and not get accounted for. Your assumption only works under the regard that the worker dosent care whether he gets exploited or not, which is false.

3. We would review what happens when it actually happens. If they want to open a new one business, these people have to make sure that they follow the theory of SNLT in the way that workers are paid appropriately, thus they don't get exploited. It would be unlikely such a business can be sustained, because the business will run mostly at a loss of they follow these principles.

4. Corruption? Information would be publicly available, free and can be accessed relatively easily to prevent it. That way, if some amount of capital goes missing or anything, we can actually assert that corruption happened and we would seek to find the perpetrator

@WizardLizardInABlizzard

Your faith in humanity warms my heart

I spent a couple of mins writing that so that you can get your questions answered, that's your reply? Jeez. At least give me credit even if we both disagree with each other

and why ask questions if your going to dismiss it

OK now just for the sake of it how is military controled

please actually debunk my points

the military? I'm not sure.

how the military is enforced is a whole new question

Post your rigs

@Weissest planning a 1.5k dollar build soon, not sure about the processor though.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/318807441586257940/502439915506892800/XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD.png

@Leiro レイロ thank you for your honest reply so I will give you an honest rebuttle
1 innovation needs motivation, "a better world" only works with some key industries the rest need concrete motivation
2 that is how classes form; those that decide and those that follow.
3 compitent men will flee to a country where they are free to pursue their capitalist venture. A BIG problem with communism and socialism is you can't keep your great men
4 nothing is imunne to corruption.

OK I have to go to my shop and open up I'll be back on at 9h

@WizardLizardInABlizzard 1. The goal and point would be that their labour being more productive and efficient. Why would anyone want to tire and assemble iPhones a day when we have automated robots to do it? They benefit from doing less labour, as I mentioned the whole point of socialism is to achieve post scarcity.

2. In this case, everyone in the collective decides, so no classes are formed. The only class is the working class or the proletariat.

3. Really? Remind me how many physicists and mathematicians and scientists the Soviet Union produced, some of which were Nobel prize winners. The state would provide you with resources to pursue your innovation all the same, and would support you in case of failure. Nobody supports your ideas if you fail due to other reasons, and you end up with a load of debt. They have better incentives to innovate under socialism. More resources and capital to innovate as such.

4. why did you ask me that question then? corruption can never be fully curbed, I'm saying a hypothetical way to alleviate corruption and to make it harder to end up in it.

Patrick Little 2020

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/epa-touts-falling-emissions-during-first-year-of-trump-administration

1 that is a whole lot of faith in people owning up to do their part bc it's "more efficient than it was" look at >welfare state
2 that's a stagnant view
3 forced to stay
4 to see your solution
Sorry for quick answers I'm walking out the door

@WizardLizardInABlizzard
1. The community as a whole benefits from innovation, why would they not want to innovate?
2. uhh okay but that's the truth
3. some were, but most weren't

4. okay

but I rather you just dm me

this is going on forever my fingers are hurting

Dm doesn't fix that

because I can answer your question at my expense

if you just out it here it will get lost

in the chat

My Dog shit last night in my yard near the edge. Some fat spic lady tried to cut across my lawn to save time. She stepped in my Dogs shit. She scrapped off shit with several sticks for 5 minutes.

https://youtu.be/mmWkxghQWKE

you should have just grabbed the lady and smothered her face in shit @𝐉𝐔𝐍𝐊𝐑𝐀𝐓

lol

She’s already got brown skin what difference would it make

Besides I can’t grab her she’s to slippery being a greasy spic

gay

just take her by the clothes and push her into the shit

GOOD MORNING HAVE A GR8 DAY

Good morning

although it's 7.40pm here lul

Oh wow, yea its only 644am here lol

Good evening then

ye

Yes

550 am

*450

where yall live guys?

Kill me I have to go work with black people and boomers

USA USA USA USA

Sounds like that will be a great time though

I wouldn't call where I live USA when there's more Hispanics than white people here

L

Lol is there really more mexicans

Yes in just about every major city in a state that borders / is near mexico

L

<:npc:500426131493617684>

do most rightists in the USA support the republican party?

<:npc:500426131493617684> I love bean niggers

<:npc:500426131493617684> I stand with migrants ✊

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1052885781675687936

Send the military!!!

Call me when he actually does it

Not the first time he said he would

obv

I don't see the great wall of Mexico anytime soon

Hello fellow Hillary supporters 👍

hillary is a incel cuck

<:npc:500426131493617684> I love Hillary

<:brainlet:404155381359706132>

she supports imperialism

<:npc:500426131493617684> #metoo

I'm not a socialist

I'm a Shia Islamist who supports dengism

#ImWithHer 😃

Stay calm

<:npc:500426131493617684> I love her!

Dengism? Sounds like degenism

#ImWither (from Minecraft)

I want Minecraft girlfriend 😭

Whats the average age of girls who play minecraft

Probably like 35-50

Id say its either like, 20 or 12

No inbetween

@Noxar ***Islam with Chinese Characteristics***

lul

Are you an uyghur or whatever

Gonna get re-educated if they catch you

no

alhamdulillah

Islam with Chinese Characteristics is a meme and a joke

the best ideology is obviously anarcho primitivism

<:npc:500426131493617684> Vote Hillary in November

All muslims scare me

I'm voting for hillary clinton cause she's a woman

@calciferalt do not dis muslims they religion of peace brother

they kill you if you dis them

Nice.

dis happen in ufc

Remember when you banned me

<:npc:500426131493617684> ttyl

irish man disrespect islam so calm islam man assault people

<:Gay:356316875367514122>

Islam is progressive

i ban you again alhamdulillah

then shut up your face mouth

😉

so your the one who banned me ic

Kek

<:dindu:476422107232993280>

Im like confused do you not speak english? @Fox ⚾ 🇦🇺

Or are you just acting like a retard

For some unfunny ironic joke or something

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Calcifer#4909 was kicked***

Ouch

Don't touch the Kanye larp

Who else wants Buffalo wings really bad right now

<:npc:500426131493617684> Kanye bad

Hi

@NormieCamo I'm vegetarian

so I'm a soyboy

Lol

My condolences

<:npc:500426131493617684> Black people are peaceful and do not commit any crime

i can't email the arbitration opt out email

<:feelspepoman:385617707044962304>

Ew

<:GWpaboaPepeStap:407618759637860352>

Can you not kick me

Why did u get kicked

oh

Cause aus likes me or something

cant wait for spookween

Not quite sure

🎃 🎃

<:GWchadMEGATHINK:366999806343774218>

Which mode can i talk to about being targeted

By this dude

Oh Calcifer is back.

🤷

Hallo.

<:npc:500426131493617684> Soy is good

<:npc:500426131493617684> Everybody consume soy

@Artificer Alpha hey how are ya

<:npc:500426131493617684>

A bit better than the usual as of late. Working on improving my drawing workflow in spare time.

You?

@Weissest I support the Islamic sjw party cause they give me free soy products

Sweet

Im fine thanks

<:npc:500426131493617684> Good party 😍

Degenerate role already eh?

Dont know why

Probably fox cause he has some weird complex with me

Islamic sjw party or anime communist party?

<:npc:500426131493617684> Both parties are good 😍

there's also one more party

pan-islamic feminist progressive movement

<:npc:500426131493617684> 😍 😍 😍

<:npc:500426131493617684> The blue wave is coming guys!

<:npc:500426131493617684> America is racist

oh wait those parties are trash

I'm supporting the black supremacist party

<:npc:500426131493617684> Black Lives Matter! :fist_skin_tone_5:

I’m curious when the NPC fad is going to subside into A less blatant form.

<:npc:500426131493617684> Only lives of blacks matter.

Also - black supremacy?

Really?

<:npc:500426131493617684> The best way to find truth is to find a common ground between all ideologies

@Artificer Alpha yes that exists

@Leiro レイロ Last warning for TOS violations

?

Calls for violence even if sarcastic are against the rules

come on nigga

Discord cannot delineate between what is serious and what is not

when did I call for violence

<:npc:500426131493617684> Violence to whites

<:npc:500426131493617684>

<:npc:500426131493617684> end the white race

<:npc:500426131493617684> <:npc:500426131493617684> <:npc:500426131493617684>

<:OKTrump:356316632567513088>

is this also against the rules? Does discord ban for calls of violence on whites?

<:npc:500426131493617684>Who hurt you?

<:npc:500426131493617684> <:npc:500426131493617684> <:wesmart:359946049588166657>

<:npc:500426131493617684> Orange man hurts me

<:npc:500426131493617684> Agreed

🤔

<:RedPill:356316562057068545>

https://giphy.com/gifs/raw-analogy-MGDJVmYh5tKFi

The real face of Vice

Lmfao

s*x

Is that Snap <:disgustpepe:428664686201012224>

S*x

Of course @TPho

But that’s Vice’s article

What I censored is some dude kissing a nigger’s feet

sounds like the pope

Don’t want to ruin the no-fap streaks of some lurkers here

nofap lmao

Send feet

Like FRICK. I got feet on the brain now

foot fetishists aren't people

That is false

Vice is promoting foot fetish lmao

Feet are one of a kind

ok nigger

<:PepeChill:378748692741750794> <:PepeChill:378748692741750794>

Anyone in here an organic chemist

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Banana