The Vedic conception does have hells btw

fearing god means you hate sin

for the wicked

but it's just not eternal

Hmm.

You can hate sin and not fear God.

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Unfortunately, there are those who are exceptionally adept at diverting their karma to a future point

Believe that

Because you are against it

And you stand with God.

There shouldn’t be any fear if you are truly righteous.

@Kraftzmann the Free Our souls are eternal

>> being this upset that someone else has a love for God that doesn't match your own interpretation

this doesn't change the fact that they *will* face justice eventually

True

True

@GumAcacia >being afraid of God

This is what lets me sleep at night

Fear is one of respect presumably in functional relationships.

but eternal suffering is not just

not for any crime

Fear is very important in a love and respect dynamic

no, it is demonic

fear has no place in a love and respect relationship

Actually I think it is important even if you wanted to look at it from an evolutionary standpoint

Hence alphas

https://www.foxnews.com/world/jamal-khashoggis-friend-says-missing-saudi-journalist-was-killed-in-a-barbaric-way

Fucking Saudis

You can admit the one you love is capable of producing fear. However, if that’s your justification in worshiping God, you are missing the point. @TradChad

lol cia nigger got tortured

do you fear the unknown?

karma

@Helios that's not my justification for worshipping god at all

Better not be.

Oof.

I mean we should be in awe of the divine, but if you fear God you fundamentally don't understand His being.

are you high or something?

Wait why wouldn't we fear God?

Someone puts a 9MM to my head, and wants me to love them. I will. That doesn’t mean I actually do.

No, I’m not.

GET IN HERE HE'S LIVE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlDorOc15tU

God cannot be unjust. God cannot be evil, so there is nothing to fear.

God has the power to give us eternal paradise or eternal torment

Hey man

I’m not bad mouthing God if you brainlets think I am BTW

And it's not God per se which punishes sinners, it's the way that the system is set. What you focus on and act on, you shall receive.

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] you're not thinking about it the way I am

I’m just saying that’s not a good reason to love God.

what I am saying is a little different but it is difficult to put to words

I understand the Christian pov. The fear of sin in a way more so than of God.

But you shouldn't fear punishment, unless you're wicked.

it's not that

you fear being wicked

"you shouldnt care that the police search your house if you have nothing to hide"

hmmmmm

hmmmmmmmmmmm

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I think that maybe for demonic people fear could be a motivator to tend to their karma and be honorable.

@TradChad you should fear being wicked because you know it’s wrong. Not just because there’s a punishment geared towards it.

@Weissest nah man wait a few hrs

I didn't fear an FBI investigation

For psychopaths maybe

I’m thinking!!!

I just said that it was the committee's decision

@Helios How do you know it's wrong

Demonic people?

You can feel that it’s wrong.

yes, people devoted to being evil

If you’re civilized; that little voice in your head

Yeah, you know it's wrong because god made it wrong

not even necessarily like literally being demon worshipers, but just people who have absolutely no empathy

yinz are acting like a bunch of mudlimes arguing sunni and shiite

shame

theology is important dood

most important practice in life really

Listen. If you don’t have empathy for Jesse Pink man from Breaking Bad. You are a wicked Psychopathic dick that will burn in the lake of fire.

what

Lol

I have empathy for him, but he was an evil character.

This is why I think you are high dude

Aren’t laws and common sense enough?

He sold meth dood

i too get my morality from pop culture

>> believes "evil" to be a real thing

wew lad

The point is though is whether or not they are sorry for what they've done

@Artificer Alpha No, because the logic we base laws on depends on metaphysics necessarily.

i too get my morality from the media that i consume

Moral philosophy requires God

@TradChad I’m not high

haha bro I feel so bad for this high school dropout meth dealer

https://youtu.be/jY8MsF4vr9U

It's like feeling bad for pefimous if pefimous started making meth

@TradChad watch this you homo

Watch the video

https://youtu.be/jY8MsF4vr9U

>feeling bad about fictional characters

HE DIED FOR YOUR SIN

the absolute state

its like feeling bad for pefimous*

of the west

Wait a sec

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] >being this autistic

Him dying for our sins doesn't mean we are justified in doing evil

whoa a bettle

beetle

autism is eternal m8

what is your point

Jesus did say he came to fulfill the law not to replace it

this is just like in star wars when my favorite character killed my bad character

The commandments are still mentioned in NT and asked to uphold them as well

the empire did nothing wrong

Sure you can be forgiven, but we innately know what's righteous anyway

konnen sie das nochmal sagen?

>not realizing fictional archetypes play an important role in morality @Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] and being autistic

this is just like in the handmaids tale when the bad guys hurt the good women

I AM WHAT I CONSUME

@Azrael I have all night

Watch the video and tell me this is wrong @TradChad

breaking bad is another degenerate hollywood creation

#BeerToo

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] lol no

the journey of a man to becoming a demonic psychopath

Join my movement

so *cool* bro

Jesse Pinkman didn't live for my sins

<:bugman:416588250426114049> breaking bad omg

I won't watch a video so blatantly satanic

breaking bad!!!

https://www.sltrib.com/religion/2018/10/07/latest-sundays-mormon/

pop culture!!!!

television!!!

consumer media!!!

"The latest from Sunday’s General Conference: Nelson announces 12 new temples, says members ‘offend’ God when they use the term ‘Mormon’"

i clapped!

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] you are so autistic. It’s not endorsing he use of Methamphetamine or Walter White’s journey to becoming psychopathic

we got ourselves a real Braincel here , guys

**members offend God when the use the term Mormon**

It’s against that

I’m lost on this one.

Breaking bad endorses meth

If there is one artist I have grown to despise it would be Ariana Grande

Clearly you are autistic if you don’t get the point of Breaking Bad. Or just psychopathic.

I'd eat grandes ass like it contained the holy scripture

pop tarts are always bad

Sad

Guys look at this hollywood media that i get my morals from!!

Just like if you didn’t under Darth Sideous or The Joker are archetypes of Satan.

Understand

What ass lol

"archetypes"

everyone has an asshole, fam

I got your fucking archetype right here bitch

They are. Being evil is inflicting suffering for the sake of suffering.

Guys!! This is just like starwars!!

Flat ass 😉

the joker isn't Satan

Good example. The Joker.

WOMEN ARE ILLEGAL!!!!!!

easier to sit on my chinky flat face

Guys this is just like when palpatine told anakin to behead dooku!!!

We live in a society where people don’t know what I’m talking about when it’s so clears

the joker isn't Satan archetype

Lol

@agag yes he is.

That’s just stupidity.

Wow please sentence that woman to life

@Helios Gets his information from LSD

He literally just want to make the world worse.

At least life no less than that

That’s his only goal.

what's the acid telling us, o grand wizard

maybe take 10 grams so you can tell us accurately

the joker isn't satan archetype because the joker is the hero of the batman story

Not only does this nigga define himself through media which he consumes, he doesnt even understand it! Sad!

DEUS VULT

When you look at Bane, or any other Villan. They usually have a Goal, or in there point of view what they are doing is right.

can i get some Deus Vults in the chat to cleanse the degenerates?

you aren't even christian

stop larping

The Joker knows what he does is wrong. And he doesn’t care. He just does for the LULZ

The joker was created by (((Them)))

clearly you didn't pay much attention to the joker origin story

yeah jokers goal is to prove his point it's not just for lulz

lets stop larping

<:bugman:416588250426114049> superheroes

LOL!

That is definitely not true

@TradChad We’re talking about Dark Knight joker. Very different Joker.

There is no way that is a true story

my cape movies!!!

<:bugman:416588250426114049>

Other Jokers you can’t help but feel sorry for him

miles morales spiderman!!!

Because he fell into a Vat

<:bugman:416588250426114049>

>>being 20+
>>watching cape movies

kek

What's larping

pretending

star wars!!

Okay thanks. I can't keep up with the trends

<:bugman:416588250426114049>

it broke new ground!

<:bugman:416588250426114049>

The empire is the good guys in star wars

^

manchildren territory

they provide peace and order to the galaxy

^

@GumAcacia says the fag with Butthead as his profile pic

star wars movies are rebel propaganda reels

Lmao

i clapped when i saw a character i liked!

Hey Trad can you re-explain something again that I've been wondering about

<:bugman:416588250426114049>

that's why the heroes win so easily

It was brought up in a debate a while back

Sure

I am so smart

>blow up death star with a single shot

lel

Lmao

Imagine arguing over Cape movies

(((rebellion)))

corporate media!!!

<:bugman:416588250426114049>

The Resistance is legitimately retarded.

(((alderaan)))

The Joker is more like Darth Sideous. And Bane is more like Darth Vader.

@Thule-Gesellschaft [☩] Hey man didn't you think it was weird how outside of the whole jedi vs sith conflict the empire literally has nothing else that makes it evil

We were debating with an atheist just a while back over the beginning of everything

you got me there fam. You cant comprehend my fine american cartoons
I am too dumb to understand your sophisticated japanese cartoons

You had mentioned something I had never heard of before

The Rebellion at least tried to make itself legitimate.

@TradChad they literally did nothing wrong

Both Bane and Darth Vader are fallen heroes.

they provide jobs to outer planets

the resistance are just democratic faggots

@Tiano infinite regress?

📸

who like globo homo tranny multialium society

I believe it was when the atheist had said that the universe will expand infinitely

The Joker and Emperor Palpetine are just devils.

oh

blowing up an entire planet was pretty bad