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@Thule-Gesellschaft [โฉ] have you take Politiscales yet
200 year old meme*
@vec Third Reich era Germany, Fascist ltaly, and many other countries had those and were not capitalist to the extent the US is
they had those things courtesy of the environment capitalism provided in the world
Baby boomers
Africans
this is false
wonder how the people got all those taxes to pay to the state
I am out of here
Vec is not necessarily wrong in what he has said but it is a one sided argument
See you guys in your dreams
(and I am not joking)
The problem is though, did those people develop all those things for the good of the people or for their own profit and personal gain
Nope, I am the extraterrestrial here (no joke)
this fuckin guy https://youtu.be/lPkz_ippXfw?t=49
Plus in a capitalist society, everyone has an opportunity to become wealthy.
state can't tax a bunch of peasants with dirt in their pockets
but not everyone wants that
need a middle class for innovation
not everyone has the same drive for power
Thats called job marketing
And an education
Your IQ has nothing to do with capitalism, though
And education cost donยดt cut anyone out. it depends on how hard you wanna work for it.
@vec you do realize though that capitalism also puts profit over morals, immigrants over natives, personal gain over mutual gain, and above all, whatever makes money is what should be, no matter how many people it fucks over.
Wealthy people are either born wealthy or work their ass off to get there
crony capitalism does
It wonยดt just happen
No just capitalism, it permits it to happen
capitalism is an economic tool, tools can be exploited by the amorral
Yeah, they do?
Do you work??
Capitalism is a system that is purposefully exploited
How do wealthy people not work hard to get to that point.
That's ot to say Socialism is the answer
Bullshit
Revelation 6:2
**Revelation 6:2 - Douay-Rheims 1899 American Edition (DRA)**
```Dust
<2> And I saw: and behold a white horse, and he that sat on him had a bow, and there was a crown given him, and he went forth conquering that he might conquer. ```
amoral crony capitalists may sell out their a native population for their own gain, but in the long run thats short sided
Well sure
But what field requires you to not work your ass off to make a lot of money?
iยดd love to know so i can do it
Im being facteious
I do value those things,
You are making an oversimplification about an entire society over one sarcastic comment
Can you answer my question?
People will always get away with doing minimal work if possible
Thatโs human nature
What field will allow someone to be extremely wealthy with little work?
Right
Are you against people earning their societal and financial status and enjoying it ?
Everyone has an opportunity
Even you do
<:FeelsLELMan:356316501105442817> ๐ท๐บ
I live in a very rural, poor area. People still work their ass and work white collar if they want.
@Mord this guys article is built around a literal (((Harvard Philosopher's))) sophist argument my dude
michael SANDEL
cmon
Poverty isnโt artificially created lol
If anyone really called my area poor that means theyยดre not from here.
This isnโt the Holodomor
No one here cares if theyยดre living in a shanty trailer
As long as they have food and good neighbors they are content.
People have different drives for power
lol
Calling capitalist states plutocracy is literal propaganda
Wanting food and human company is being consumerist now
Itโs not
We have a House of Representatives, a Senate, and a Supreme Court
No im not
In which you can literally be uneducated and poor and still be elected
France
Belgium
UK
USA
You just said people that live in shanties are consumerist slaves.
Guatemala
What the fuck?
South Africa
I think youยดre the naive one
Fucking Taiwan lmao
we don't have a plutocracy my dude
you can kvetch all day that you imagine we do
we do not
EVIL CAPITALISTS can't tell us to work 20 hours a day with no choice
We are an upright democracy
We have checks and balances for a reason
they can't march into our homes and tell us what to do
Wages are consistent with the job
They only go up due to inflation
Education is totally free unless you plan on going to college
plutocracy equates to a squashed middle class
we're still here
Then you can apply yourself and get scholarships
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