it's spelled ques

not queues

Now onto the point with immigrants getting into the US. What exactly is the problem with them entering?

it's que retards

!!!!!!

What's your grievance?

hey at least i dont use the wrong form of your/you're or their/there/they're like @!GoldenKingship!

🤷

i'm fine with mexicans entering the us

*accelerationism*

same

Come in legally

i am so red pilled that my skull has multiplied in depth 5 times

If the system wasn't so stupid they would. If you want them to enter legally then fix the broken system

How about they fix the countries they come from becaus e they are being told you can come to america for free and nobody will stop them.

ted kaczynski was right about the industrial revolution

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Again what's exactly is your grievance about them entering the US?

Me?

Not you

or @!GoldenKingship!?

@!GoldenKingship! ok i was born in a shitty 3rd world country where theres no hope of fixing it so i should stay there and fix it even though its impossible

Also fixing the country is a great idea but usually the government doesn't bother or if it does it just fucks things up with terrible foreign policies

no i think the u.s.'s foreign policies are amazing

god bless isreal

guys

From Bush to Obama to Trump

i love paying taxes to go to war with random countries and putting immigrants into concentration camps

The answer to all the problem is to bomb the entire middle east

^^^

it is a perpetual war

it is advantageous to america

I am all for immigration but the problem is mass immigration like coming over the border illegally is going to affect the economy in a bad way.

it keeps its soldiers active and has many poor people fight for it

And how is that affecting the economy?

Or maybe you're just unreasonably blaming an economic crisis on immigrants?

the negative effects it has on the economy is dwarfed by the beneficial effects fo it

Immigration make the country richer (Not its citizens).

@!GoldenKingship! do you not think that as the wealthiest nation in the world that has more than enough money to pay for people who come from bad countries where they live terrible lives we should have some moral responsibillity for them?

The economy of the US is already fucked

It's pretty much an economy that is built on debt

the economy is fucked, but yet the quality of life is still good for most people

and trump is gonna fix it by decreasing taxes on corporations amirite

enough to keep everyone docile and content at least

That is one of the only thing the right and left agree on

Exactly the problem is immigration doesnt even grow the economy, Technology does.

cheap workers

even cheaper wage slaves

How does technology and immigration tie into improving the economy idk

@waiting for silksong revolt against the industrial revolution 😏

kingship

if we still have a shitty capitalist system as technology develops

then nobody will have jobs

Technology has been advancing in the US already

It is better to work smarter than harder is why.

There was no massive improvement because of advancement

and if we fuck our planet before technology advances we'll all be dead :D

We have a population that isnt even all that smart because education system sucks. And its no wonder why we cant produce new technology faster that wrapping products in amazon packages.

nvm just a myth so that china can undermine our economy

yeah and if our education system improves we'll have more liberals

so i guess we just have to fuck and shoot each other in the meantime

until ben shapiro becomes president

Well good thing the bad education system is something many democrats are bringing up

when we have a good educaiton system

we can have our communist revolution

What, Like making college free?

partially

That is great but even more than that

its probably not realistic or very benefitial to make college completely free right now

Such as improving the system

>implying a basic staple to a tolerable life should even be privatized

Making college free is pretty easy actually

that's like implying that something necessary to survive and not die should also be privatized!

oh wait

Many just like to make it convoluted

College should'nt even be free. It should be paid for by smart working individuals.

*sips*

Yeeeep

I don't get what those kiddos are complaining about

Back in my day I just took a summer job

They just don't want to work

Well then what about the smart hard working individuals who are stuck paying their college debt?

tfw parents will actually pay off my college debt

We need to invest more in new technology that benefits economic growth not hard work labour

and we need socialism so that we dont have 20 rich people and the rest of the world has no jobs because of automation

Immigration is whats tanking our economy.

uh oh

And that has already been happening but there was no massive difference in the economic situation with innovations

Cause those innovations also require a social revolution to be effective

yeah

the market shouldn't be free, and healthcare, infrastructure, electricity, and education should be public

the free market is a piece of shit

yeah

we cant have egalitarianism until the free market is gone

I am saying that empirical evidecne basically shows immigration puts a strain on the economy.

what about asians

asians have a higher average IQ

what about jews

What evidence?

God's chosen people

The economic situation doesn't have much to do with imigrants

The democrats want more migrants into the country so they can tax them and politically use them as a voting wand for every other election.

*accelerationism*

Or maybe people don't like the idea of other people suffering

@!GoldenKingship! you do realize that if we make education better and more acceptable we're gonna be on the brink of communism right

Fallacy lol.

hey more educated people support marxism an much higher rates

GG @waiting for silksong, you just advanced to level 8!

Ever heard of supply and demand?

nope not once

nope nope

its how free markets determine prices.

🤔

dude

they didn't preach that like a religious doctrine

in school

i know what supply and demand is

they also didn't make the founding fathers into literal deities

nope

ive read quite a few books on economic theory kingship

and you havent

GG @Boo, you just advanced to level 16!

Hey look

I can send pics

Cool

how

oh i need to ascend

I'm higher level

to a higher rank

fucking class struggles

fuck capitalism

This is why economicists get it wrong. They have it wrong on trade and they are dead wrong on immigration.

GG @!GoldenKingship!, you just advanced to level 3!

a class system is natural, however those of the higher class should have their position partially by merit, and they should have a moral obligation and burden which those below them would be free of

Again you still haven't explained what immigration has to do with economy.

the higher class shouldn't consist of those who have the most money and those who garner the most wealth from wagecucks

How to solve immigration. End chain migration. End Visa lottery system. End birthright citizenship. And help local enforcement.

You can't deport people based on color racist.

What does immigration have to do with the economic situation?

You can't

It's against the law to do that based on race

who gives a shit about the law

seriously

deport all g'*'rmans and all s'*'avs

when we discuss these topics we dont care about the law we care about whats morally righteous boo

theres a lot of dumb fucking laws

not that laws preventing racism are part of them

I agree that the morality of it is important but some people don't care about that

Mass immigration grows America’s economy, but does not necessarily make American citizens richer. Immigration doesn’t cause economic growth. The liberal economists have erred in basing their model on false assumptions. @Boo

So i say that even by law that can't be done

remove copyright

why do american citizens recieve higher moral consideration than foreigners @!GoldenKingship!

@!GoldenKingship! How does it do that?

Need i remind you that the average American citizens economic situation is already not improving

the conditions are still tolerable

it could

and there won't be any change

as long as there is no revolution

hey the overton window seems to be shifting left every day

have some optimism

nothing will change

It is

nothing meaningful at least

how is it shifting right on social issues

Dems winning congress is proof of it shifting

many zoomers oppose gays

and all that

more zoomers are progressive though

@bink

thankfully

>thankfully

oh no

Simple common sense is all it take to make change. Somthing society seems to be lacking nowadays.

why do you think we cant be transgender or gay artist

Even if it is decreasing it's not proof of people not favoring the left more

lets talk

just a reminder that "democracy" has been around for less than a century

science is for it

but ok

monarchism is the default government of humanity

and has been successful for thousands of years

monarchism is intrinsic with the nature of civilized people

that doesnt prove anything

Science said that gays and trans aren't going against their nature and that it is perfectly normal for that to happen

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 5!

artist

Speaking of democracy, it has indeed become a tool for the wealthy and powerful.

so do you think there are at least some naturally gay and transgender people?

@Deleted User

democracy cannot work for a government

yikes

it can only work for a commune of people deciding stuff for their village or town

not for a nation

ok so I assume you believe gender isn't societal and is completely biological?

oof

gender is biological

yes in large part

the romans also had trannies

Sex and gender are two different terms

gender sometimes refers to sex

but usually not

its something societal because men and women exhibit certain behaviours that arent intrinsic to their biology

there are extremely few people who aren't biologically man or biologically woman

Actually

Yes and i guess the scientists proving that there are people who believe they are of another gender are also making it up

it is worthless to debate about such a small and negligible minority of people

....

Your x and Y chromosome tell you that

as in those who have both genitals or something

It depends on the chromosome

your 47 chromosomes haha gotem

It's completely worth debating if there is an issue of discrimination

the IDEA of gender

so do you agree with my earlier statement @Deleted User

people shouldn't be discriminated if they are unlucky enough to be born with both genitals

I have more chromosomes than you retard

but there are very few people born like that

Kys

"its something societal because men and women exhibit certain behaviours that arent intrinsic to their biology"

do you agree or nah

no

why

ok what about this: men and women exhibit certain behaviours that arent intrinsic to their biology

Bullshit

do you agree

women and men inherently have different roles

@Deleted User

If that argument would've worked there would be no transgender people

the role of women is biologically speaking to reproduce

uh oh

its the jordan peterson argument

biologically speaking men are more expendable

But there are still transgender people as proven by researchers

and are more physically fit

@bink are you a utilitarian generally?

for dangerous occupations

no

i disagree with hedonism in general

it doesn't matter if there is a biological imbalance because people are happiest if they get the choice to do whatever they want

@Deleted User Yes actual scientists who explain in detail that people become transgender naturally

^^ that is indisputable

those are different retard

are there documented instances of people feeling like theyre zebras?

i'm black

we all evolved from africa

does it make sense for people to feel they're zebras?

@Deleted User As far as science knows so far no but it's natural for transgenders to exist

and there are cases of people identifying as black even if ethnically speaking they might not be

Oh please don't try to use my typo as a counter argument