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you dont know shit about tariffs
I don't very much like Trump as a person and he's gone and done some stupid shit that went against his own supporters but there's no way in hell I'm voting for anyone besides him in 2020 unless I just want the whole country to turn into a socialist, open borders, economically screwed fuck fest
@Green Syndicalism K sry I was in the middle of doing something else at that same. In hindsight, it was a bs post. But what you are suggesting is a large-scale protectionist economy within America. That helps absolutely no one, even the industries involved in the long run. China helps its own industries, sure, but China is not America. The US' tariffs are not happening in a static world; they are happening in tandem with retaliatory tariffs (by China and other trading partners) which make US' exports uncompetitive. Even if the US starts helping out all its industries, they will eventually look for foreign markets. You are simply stifling their economic freedom. A protectionist economy is a globalized world does not work.
have you even looked at the stats? you have both a trade deficit *and* a massive budget deficit. When you eventually lose the reserve currency of the world (which you will eventually, trump is making sure of that), these drains on your economy will become apparent. You'll have a weak dollar, making foreign imports very expensive, raising the cost of living without actually raising the wages of your own workers. What do you think this will be other than a monster recession? You won't have the local industries in existence to mitigate the effects of this *inevitability* because you *didnt* protect them in the first place.
>they will eventually look for foreign markets.
you know why they rely on this? its because local consumers dont have the demand to satiate the productive capacities of your own industries because they're in so much debt and their wages aren't going up. If you increased the purchasing power of your own citizens (with proper wage growth and modern debt jubilees), your economy would be *far* less dependent on foreign markets sales.
>That helps absolutely no one, even the industries involved in the long run
you've said this, then provided no argument to back it up. while i agree we shouldnt protect *every industry* because these industries dont exist in a vacuum (my steel tariffs example is a good illustration of this), we should protect the industries at the top of the pile, because they're the ones who provide the high wages, they're the ones who provide for global monopolies and they're the ones who make america's national security and hegemony secure. It makes *no* sense to allow these industries to be offshored, and they needn't be with good regulation. Keeping industries at home leads to future productivity gains *in your own nation*, encourages immigration of the most skilled and educated workers from other nations (a brain sink) and ensures full sovereignty as you are less reliant on the whims of foreign states.
the argument for free trade is "you get cheaper goods in the short run!"
it ignores every other aspect of the economy
@Green Syndicalismmy intellectual friend
hello sir
Trump is a real
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<#513098339961798676>2020
Trump ftw
The duopoly continues regardless. I would have rather seen trump as a third party candidate, but like Bernie in the end you just end up a deal maker for the establishment.
press 1 if you read greens rant
TRMP
our lord and savior
@robert from kinoplex I never seen Trump like this the president sit must be taking a huge toll on him
I read what @Green Syndicalism wrote. So, people on this server have reading abilities that need to be catered to? Apparently that's considered a "rant" and not to be read.
Some of you definitely haven't opened a book huh. Afraid of libraries as well? Too many words? Yikes
Oops I'm hitting the character cap for ranting and spamming huh ๐จ
god stop whining ty
the two of you constantly making comments about people not being able to read is getting old so drop it @Dr.Cosby @Green Syndicalism
Yes sir, please don't ban me sir
But to be clear: can I make comments and whine when people write TOO much? I want to know the rules so I am not punished <:peepobad:538084182644228112>
*read a book* leftist argument
Karl Marx , Das Kapital is toiletpaper not a book
Try again nose-man
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"green's rant"
you mean "green's counterargument to an interlocuter". isnt that meant to be the point of discord servers like this? to engage in debate and discuss these concepts with people? if you refuse to read anything longer than a few sentences, why should anyone take your views seriously?
Idk it's a roundabout ad hominem I've seen elsewhere, hopefully it's not too common of a problem here. Telling someone "tldr" is a cheap shot.
or maybe I was making a joke
r u a hit at parties
^ made me laugh
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Bullshit article ๐
Cummings in that video calls his area drug infested and called his residents zombies
It's almost like a person's character, intent, and reputation (as well as context) have an impact on how their words are interpreted...
Known racist says something that seems racist at face value? Probably racist.
Terrible logic
to operate on
I'm glad we live in a post race world ruled by orange people
to be fair the red dragon needs to take some punishment for once (the tariffs)
China is an overflowing porta potty
But these tarrifs hurt us too
This is also encouraging China to have a closer relationship with Russia
It's bad stuff
so what do you suggest
Stop buying shit from China if its hurting you. Buy American toys. Stop giving people lead poison.
People complain about American jobs and then buy a iPhone. Wake up and realize its not China thats the problem. Hell its not even the corporations. Its YOU the consumer
that's incorrect because individuals make no difference in globalization
its not the consumer
its your government
theres no good reason for them to have allowed the deindustrialisation of america
@Green Syndicalism *deindustrialization *America *There's
why arent you correcting capitalisations?
and full stops?
you're a pretty bad grammar nazi
Dude read eats, shoots, and leaves
@Green Syndicalism *Why *aren't *capitalizations *You're
Correct this.
Youโre a bad grammar Nazi
Youโre a bad grammar Nazi.*
you forgot the full stop
Lol
Yes they do. If people woke up today and decided not to by Chineses product than industry i America would grow. How do you think companies go bankrupt? Do you think Blockbuster just ran out of money? No people stoped renting DVDs and started streaming.
Trump has been betrayed, triple crossed, backstabbed, surrounded by Democratic liars!
If Trump is disbarred out of the White House, I will kill myself!
Please do. It's nice when the trash takes itself out for a change.
Ok @Dr.Cosby You sir are beyond debating. Youโre just offending people for no good reason. Youโre such a hypocrite, going out of your way to call people trolls and then you come along and troll others in the worst way possible.
Youโve told me to fuck myself, and youโve told this person to kill themselves. How are you not a troll?
And God knows how many others youโve done this shit to.
@Dr.Cosby I am not trash!
I am a sane human being!
@Deleted User what if Donald Trump is legally and fairly voted out of office and charged with obstruction of justice.
If Trump is impeached he becomes a martyr. Unless a video comes out where he's literally having sex with children (and even then), it will always be some kind of conspiracy...
"I could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose any voters"
Imagine the confidence that comes with saying *any* voters
@Shockwave Then this is the end of America!
Do you think people felt that way when Clinton stepped out of office? @Deleted User
Is Trump doing a great job in foreign policies today in the US? What should be the purpose of the american foreign policies?
No. @Archatton Trump has engaged in isolationist policies like pulling out of NATO, instigating a trade war with China, and ending communications or support for allies of ours.
The purpose of American Foreign Policy should be to assist our allies for the benefit of trade and safety. Additionally we should be focused on ending conflict to lessen death and high end spending.
Trump is doing a bad job at just about everything
trumpey good becoz the economy all time high
*patpat* depends for who I guess @waiting for silksong :3
@Dr.Cosby bad job by what metrics and in comparison to who?
I'm glad the victims of mass shootings in Ohio and Texas are dead! That's what they get for messing with Trump all damn day!
@Deleted User you have kids, Vaati?
Well someone's kids were killed tonight.
Someones dad, mom.
How about you stop jerking your dick and quit acting like a dickhead to fellow Americans.
Sucks we are living in a world that is ever more growing egotistical and narcisistic. Also applying race as a political talking point to judge the character of an individual just because of recent events. This has been on going issue for thousands of years, yet we just dont seem to come to the conclusion that whats most important is not the color of your skin. It is the context of your character and actions that make you who you are as an individual. Nobody brings up quotes from the past anymore because they may have forgotten it. Oh yea "Forgotten" because thats what most people say now a-days when asked 'Whats the 2nd amendment?" ;Answer - "Uhh., i forgot".
@Shockwave Mass shootings are an American Tradition! So why don't you mind your own business?
Premature death isnโt an American tradition. @Deleted User @!GoldenKingship! okay but you say that, and thatโs great Iโd love to avoid the race concept. But I think what I said is a good talking point for the people who want to say that Antifa or other groups in general are more notoriously violent.
once an antifa guy punched someone i think
Welcome to political opposition
It can lead to conflicts usually
There shall be no war against White Supremacy!
Can we just solve issues without violence?
any centrists in here
Can we just use a civil way of solving problems?
nah government system suc
Like i get what Antifa is trying to say and i agree with at least half of it but...
Can you just not assault people?
they trigger right wing reactionaries when they punch a white supremacist
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Some people do blow it out of proportion i agree
But Antifa also doesn't go about their message the right way
They're a few steps away from downright terrorism at this point
uhh
i mean the alt-right is already there
i think theyre far from a few steps
Listen extremists values exist all over the spectrum
From left to right
o no is he a centrist
No i'm not
left "extreme" values are nowhere as bad as right
Well depends on what those values are
What their message is
ok like getting men to cut their dicks off because theyre misogynists or what
im not seeing them
Wait some people actually said that?
no idk
Phew
or god forbid non straight people wanting to be referred to as...
*they*
Alright so what i'm saying is to not just look at it from left to right kind of deal
the right is the problem though
But also consider how they wanna go about their ideals
For example with the right and white nationalism
and the left wing and..
With the left a possible authoritarian regime
GG @waiting for silksong, you just advanced to level 4!
uh
thats like 0.0001% of the left
Or maybe an anarchist one
and nobody wants actual anarchy
I'm not saying that the left has as much evil people as the right
..............
I'm saying that the extremist right was able to garner more supporters than the extremist left
whats the extremist left
can you point to a significant group on the left who advocates for any extreme harmful views
An anarcho liberal for example
k
It doesn't have as much supporters as the white supremacy
But it still exists
And god i hate it
The extreme left also claims that the U.S. is a patriarchy
Anyway
Glad that we have mostly sensible people in the political spectrum
Mostly
the us is an oligarchy
That's true
Itโs a democracy
GG @James McKinnon, you just advanced to level 4!
wait nvm its fine that the koch bros and pharma/health insurance companies can buy out political influence
that sounds pretty democratic to me
It's not a true democracy if a small group of people actually choose the course a country takes
and clearly it worked because people like you probably support charlie kirk who get donos form the kochs!
and think that the us is real democratic
somehow
The U.S is a democracy. Everyone from the illegal immigrants to Bill Gates has some say in the U.S.
yup
even in their concentration camps
they should have stayed in their home country and died in the war tbh
Dude we donโt have concentration camps
That seems to be the case but let's look a bit deeper than that
The "dangers" of the "extreme left" are mostly hypothetical. I don't have statistics to pull out, but anecdotally there's an undeniable issue with violence from right groups and not much on the left
And what about Black Lives Matter?
The US is more a plutocracy btw
Liberal has become a buzzword by all vaguely conservative people
For example with presidential campaigns
uhhhh
BLM does some dumb shit but the movement is good
No itโs not
how is it not
Black Lives Matter is it's own thing too
do you think racism in the US doesn't exist on a wide enough scale
A president should work for the interests of the citizens and not just the wealthy
^^^^
And that becomes evident in campaigns
A president will work for the wealthy
unfortunately
It is the elite that controls the country
Corporations and such
and thats why were marxists
BLM is a radical group who calls for killing of the exact same people who protect this country.
The only use most people have is to generate support
And to vote for electors
awesome
can you say something of substance
like if you could elaborate or even better say something that has an actual meaning
Guys guys let's all chill for a sec
If youโre talking to me then just take a look at Ferguson.
>implying cops protect the country
yeah im gonna have a heated gamer moment
but its fine because of the context
They enforce the law on a local level
Stop inflating their role lmao
What I don't like about BLM is the vocal minority who talk about killing cops and stuff
One black man was shot by a white officer. The city practically burned.
Ferguson? That's a bad example
there are many stats
BECAUSE of BLM
that show that the legal system and police
The situation was handled poorly
i dont agree when BLM the decentralized group
commits violince and whatnot
but their aim is good
Ok no. There is racism, and I hate racism just as much as anyone else would.
That puts BLM in the wrong does it not
The effects are what matters
Not what they wanted to do
And the effects were catastrophic
its a decentralized group
?????
what do you mean that puts blm in the wrong
Then BLM is in the wrong
It is a mob
A decentralized mob
BLM has already done good
it raised a nationwide conversation and awareness
about the problem
has it not?
It kinda did tbh
you can't say weLL Even iF iTs DEcEntrAliZEd thAT doEsNt ExCusE iT bECause They SHoulDn'T bE DEcEntralIZed
I don't support violence but the racism issue needs to be addressed
The racism problem stems from the culture of many African Americans
BLM May have had good intentions but they go about things the wrong way
Speaking of racism apparently the NYPDs automated system to detect crimes has many flaws
It perpetuates crime and glorifies it among young black men since childhood
yes bink and why do they have "bad culture"
White privilege is a myth
uhhh
awesome white privilege doesnt mean white people intrinsically have privilege
Jewish privilege ๐ค
it means on average white people get benefits because white people werent oppressed in the past and present like black people
The honest truth is that there is still segregation in society
Of course there is
uM actUally SlaverY 200 YEAR aGo
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