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2019-11-07 23:23:53 UTC

This isnโ€™t a game, it isnโ€™t a trick

2019-11-07 23:24:00 UTC

You literally have not stated your position.

2019-11-07 23:24:01 UTC

you mean by grandstanding about some pedantic grammatical thing when the context is clearly there? ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-11-07 23:24:06 UTC

sure dude

2019-11-07 23:24:14 UTC

If you think that you have, I encourage you to quote yourself where you did

2019-11-07 23:24:34 UTC

If you feel the โ€œcontext is clearly thereโ€

2019-11-07 23:24:36 UTC

not my problem you'd rather play this kinda game than just read

2019-11-07 23:24:42 UTC

Then my apologizes, would you please clarify.

2019-11-07 23:24:48 UTC

This is sincerely not a game

2019-11-07 23:24:53 UTC

You havenโ€™t stated your position

2019-11-07 23:24:59 UTC

Something with Schiff and comey and Russia

2019-11-07 23:25:06 UTC

But Iโ€™m literally not sure

2019-11-07 23:25:11 UTC

yeah go read it it's pretty plain english

2019-11-07 23:25:17 UTC

Honest to god

2019-11-07 23:25:19 UTC

It is not

2019-11-07 23:25:23 UTC

You did not write it

2019-11-07 23:25:28 UTC

sucks to be bad at reading then

2019-11-07 23:25:40 UTC

Please, make me look like a moron by quoting yourself where you stated it

2019-11-07 23:25:49 UTC

I encourage you to do that

2019-11-07 23:25:52 UTC

I don't see it either, but Chloroform here thinks I'm a meanie ;(

2019-11-07 23:25:58 UTC

Lol

2019-11-07 23:26:04 UTC

not really, you don't gotta lie too now

2019-11-07 23:26:05 UTC

silly

2019-11-07 23:26:27 UTC

Ok, I guess weโ€™ll run through it

2019-11-07 23:26:31 UTC

โ€œstill love how you scurried away with your tail between your legs when the questions about the people coming under the hammer for decades of corruption got too real for ya ;)โ€

2019-11-07 23:26:32 UTC

I said some switch flipped in your brain that day and all you had to contribute was posting gay porn lol

2019-11-07 23:26:49 UTC

So this claim is that โ€œpeople coming under the hammer for decades of corruptionโ€

2019-11-07 23:26:54 UTC

So I asked who

2019-11-07 23:26:55 UTC

chlro has the sharpest insight into pedantry, egoism, and the conspiracy against the man with thousands of lawsuits

2019-11-07 23:26:57 UTC

Then you said:

2019-11-07 23:27:00 UTC

no the claim is the questions about them got too real

2019-11-07 23:27:26 UTC

โ€œnot really, we asked you where the evidence was that Comey and Schiff promised and why nobody is talking about that anymoreโ€

2019-11-07 23:27:42 UTC

in response to...

2019-11-07 23:27:44 UTC

โ€œThe evidence was that comey and Schiff promised...โ€

2019-11-07 23:27:51 UTC

Then you just cut off and interrupted yourself

2019-11-07 23:28:17 UTC

Then you clarified and said:

2019-11-07 23:28:21 UTC

โ€œdirect evidence of collusion with Russiaโ€

2019-11-07 23:28:44 UTC

So โ€œthe evidence was that comey and Schiff promised direct evidence of collusion with Russiaโ€

2019-11-07 23:28:53 UTC

yeah I was hoping Cosby would finally comment on it since he kind of disappeared that day after something short circuited in him

2019-11-07 23:28:56 UTC

Is that your claim?

2019-11-07 23:29:20 UTC

you know you're not this bad at piecing information together so you can cut the crap ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-11-07 23:29:21 UTC

Cosby gave up on you, buddy... I'm....sorry....

2019-11-07 23:29:31 UTC

yeah you gave up when the questions got too real

2019-11-07 23:29:37 UTC

I donโ€™t want to mischaracterize your position

2019-11-07 23:29:39 UTC

that much was pretty clear

2019-11-07 23:29:42 UTC

So is that your claim?

2019-11-07 23:30:04 UTC

That Schiff and comey promised direct evidence of collusion with Russia?

2019-11-07 23:31:27 UTC

shifty schiff

2019-11-07 23:31:34 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098339961798676/642144140066422804/unknown.png

2019-11-07 23:31:42 UTC

yes that's how far you've gotten with all your grandstanding

2019-11-07 23:31:43 UTC

good work

2019-11-07 23:31:48 UTC

Dude nice arrow

2019-11-07 23:31:51 UTC

So yes, that is your claim

2019-11-07 23:31:56 UTC

PowerPoint? You did a nice job

2019-11-07 23:32:24 UTC

Ok, now when you say collusion, do you mean trump with Russia, the trump campaign with Russia, or what?

2019-11-07 23:32:31 UTC

(why would I use powerpoint lol)

2019-11-07 23:33:15 UTC

sure, I mean "collusion" isn't really a crime so we're talking about "conspiracy" ultimately, Trump conspiring with Russia

2019-11-07 23:33:21 UTC

so that got investigated for 2 years right?

2019-11-07 23:33:31 UTC

Ok, this would be so much easier if you would just say your claim

2019-11-07 23:33:40 UTC

Will you please just debate in good faith

2019-11-07 23:33:54 UTC

just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true, please stop this dishonest projection

2019-11-07 23:34:06 UTC

Iโ€™m asking you a simple question about your position

2019-11-07 23:34:11 UTC

Cosby knows what I'm talking about he scurried away from it lol

2019-11-07 23:34:16 UTC

And instead youโ€™re making me cross examine you to figure it out

2019-11-07 23:34:31 UTC

You are being not debating in good faith

2019-11-07 23:34:41 UTC

no you're doing that yourself cause you know the answer isn't what you want it to be ๐Ÿ˜‰ this game you play is more fun to you anyways

2019-11-07 23:34:44 UTC

So please just stop being dishonest

2019-11-07 23:34:52 UTC

Iโ€™m not playing a game dude

2019-11-07 23:35:06 UTC

Why are you so afraid of being committed to an actual claim

2019-11-07 23:35:09 UTC

you accuse others of "not debating in good faith" when you can see pretty evidently what I wrote and even piece it together (wow)

2019-11-07 23:35:23 UTC

cause I already said it and you're here making a big fuss

2019-11-07 23:35:26 UTC

I did not want to mischaracterize your statement

2019-11-07 23:35:33 UTC

So I asked you what your claim was

2019-11-07 23:35:45 UTC

How could that possibly be taken as dishonest

2019-11-07 23:35:46 UTC

and that's where I'm gonna draw my entertainment I suppose for the next half hour til I gotta cook dinner (mmh enchiladas)

2019-11-07 23:35:58 UTC

Jesus

2019-11-07 23:36:09 UTC

Ok, so you just admitted youโ€™re just trolling

2019-11-07 23:36:15 UTC

Guess I have my answer then

2019-11-07 23:36:19 UTC

what was there to mischaracterize, you summarized it and I validated that

2019-11-07 23:36:20 UTC

lol

2019-11-07 23:36:34 UTC

I think I gave him PTSD

2019-11-07 23:36:37 UTC

You literally do not have a claim, youโ€™re just trying to entertain yourself by people trying to nail down your claim

2019-11-07 23:36:52 UTC

Yeah, heโ€™s afraid of writing a conclusion I guess

2019-11-07 23:36:54 UTC

sure Cosby that's why you flipped a switch and started posting gay porn and couldn't answer a pretty benign question

2019-11-07 23:37:14 UTC

not really, wait let me do this in the most passive aggressive way possible with powerpoint arrows ok?

2019-11-07 23:37:15 UTC

Whatโ€™s going on?

2019-11-07 23:37:19 UTC

cause it's more fun that way ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-11-07 23:37:22 UTC

Lol the gay porn really upset you huh

2019-11-07 23:37:26 UTC

Itโ€™s part of debating that sometimes you have to state your position

2019-11-07 23:37:33 UTC

It really got under your skin, good

2019-11-07 23:37:45 UTC

no it didn't upset me, you don't need to lie, you were upset and that's the one thing that could comfort you in your corner

2019-11-07 23:37:47 UTC

Yeah, heโ€™s totally lost it

2019-11-07 23:37:53 UTC

Youโ€™re clearly very upset

2019-11-07 23:38:06 UTC

Itโ€™s interesting how often he accuses people of lying and being dishonest

2019-11-07 23:38:09 UTC

Major projection

2019-11-07 23:38:21 UTC

yes I'm so upset I have the devout attention of two nerds in a chat room furiously typing at me โ˜•

2019-11-07 23:38:22 UTC

<:ainz:538084033410891776> inb4 "haha" and laughing faces pretending he's not mad

2019-11-07 23:38:30 UTC

Yes, correct

2019-11-07 23:38:32 UTC

Oh just as good

2019-11-07 23:38:39 UTC

You are quite clearly upset

2019-11-07 23:38:43 UTC

Try to calm down

2019-11-07 23:38:46 UTC

at what though?

2019-11-07 23:38:59 UTC

I'd have to take you guys seriously for starters

2019-11-07 23:39:08 UTC

I have no idea, you are unwilling or unable to write a complete sentence of what you believe.

2019-11-07 23:39:12 UTC

Idk why, like obviously I'm a mean man, but Sophie was being so nice to you, just trying to figure out what you want to say :/

2019-11-07 23:39:18 UTC

I guess youโ€™re afraid of being proven wrong?

2019-11-07 23:39:32 UTC

nah Cosby is that is the very essence of what started this conversation lol

2019-11-07 23:39:41 UTC

I mean, to me you seem like the asshole

2019-11-07 23:39:47 UTC

I came into this debate fresh

2019-11-07 23:39:52 UTC

Asked you what your position was

2019-11-07 23:39:57 UTC

And you literally refused to tell me

2019-11-07 23:40:01 UTC

my position is that Cosby was afraid to answer a simple question

2019-11-07 23:40:04 UTC

and has been this whole time

2019-11-07 23:40:14 UTC

Mhm, care to say what that question was?

2019-11-07 23:40:19 UTC

question about what? where is the evidence Comey and Schiff promised for russian collusion?

2019-11-07 23:40:20 UTC

Because you have not yet

2019-11-07 23:40:32 UTC

yes I did I even made you re-state it lol

2019-11-07 23:40:45 UTC

Ok, so the question was: โ€œwhere is the evidence comey and Schiff promised for Russian collusionโ€

2019-11-07 23:41:01 UTC

that is the question that got Cosby to freak out and post gay porn yes ๐Ÿ˜‚

2019-11-07 23:41:03 UTC

Is it your belief that Comey and Schiff promised to provide evidence for Russian collusion?

2019-11-07 23:41:04 UTC

instead of just answer it

2019-11-07 23:41:18 UTC

Well, neither of them ever made that claim

2019-11-07 23:41:30 UTC

So I donโ€™t think that question is possible to answer

2019-11-07 23:41:52 UTC

Do you have any evidence to suggest Comey or Schiff made that claim?

2019-11-07 23:42:18 UTC

will you give me time or are you going to make false claims about me while I get it?

2019-11-07 23:42:32 UTC

If you debate in good faith, so will I

2019-11-07 23:42:48 UTC

sure ya will ok give me a bit

2019-11-07 23:42:58 UTC

I do not believe either of them ever made statements to that effect, if you have evidence showing otherwise I would be interested to see.

2019-11-07 23:43:11 UTC

Ok, I am leaving shortly, when you find it please tag me.

2019-11-07 23:44:44 UTC

sounds good peace oot, this ain't over Cosby ;) I've got enchiladas to make too so we'll pick up where we left off later

2019-11-08 01:40:22 UTC

Das cool

2019-11-08 02:56:18 UTC

Top official says Trump wanted Ukraine to announce a "Clinton" probe, further undermining Trumpโ€™s defenses

2019-11-08 02:59:00 UTC

"This evening, the House Intelligence Committee subpoenaed Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney for a previously scheduled deposition tomorrow morning."

2019-11-08 03:48:56 UTC

I mean Adam Schiff. More like Adam shit

2019-11-08 03:49:30 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098339961798676/642209046912434177/image0.gif

2019-11-08 03:49:51 UTC

Didnโ€™t you tell Abraham to cut one of those open for sacrifice @Gะพd

2019-11-08 03:50:48 UTC

I enjoy a good veal

2019-11-08 04:19:33 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098339961798676/642216611343892502/Screenshot_60.png

2019-11-08 04:50:59 UTC

Schiff repeatedly claimed to have evidence of Russian collusion

2019-11-08 04:51:37 UTC

I dunno about Comey, but I wouldn't be surprised if he made the same claim as well

2019-11-08 05:00:04 UTC

well Comey was fired mid investigation

2019-11-08 05:01:26 UTC

Schiff is head of the intel committee, so he may have been talking far too much for the IC, and he pushed to get mueller report released, from there it depends on how you look at Mueller report

2019-11-08 05:02:19 UTC

several people lied about having contacts with russia and and wikipedia, some are in jail for it/plead to it. catching training spies is going ot be tough because they use cut outs but there are pretty clear links between camps

2019-11-08 05:02:42 UTC

the White house also tried to interfere where they could, firings, telling people not to testify, etc

2019-11-08 05:03:27 UTC

the public version also has redactions which don't affect Schiff

2019-11-08 05:04:31 UTC

Manafort lied, stone lied, cohen lied

2019-11-08 05:04:36 UTC

Flynn lied

2019-11-08 05:06:19 UTC

What did the lying mostly relate to? Contact with Russia

2019-11-08 05:07:57 UTC

didn't the FBI alter Flynn's testimony?

2019-11-08 05:08:06 UTC

the 302s

2019-11-08 05:09:24 UTC

I think they labeled the STrok stuff incorrectly

2019-11-08 05:09:59 UTC

Or other way around, stuff other agents collected they labeled as having been collected by STrok

2019-11-08 05:10:36 UTC

Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI about the Russian ambassador

2019-11-08 05:10:40 UTC

he and Lisa Page texted back and forth about altering documents

2019-11-08 05:11:24 UTC

pleading guilty to something doesn't necessarily mean you actually did it

2019-11-08 05:11:57 UTC

sometimes, sometimes it means you did way more

2019-11-08 05:12:37 UTC

I'm sure FBI agents and lawyers who had a clear bias against Trump and talked about altering documents were completely on the up and up

2019-11-08 05:12:41 UTC

no worries here boys

2019-11-08 05:12:49 UTC

Edit and Page/strock stuff seems to suggest he didn't think he was a good writer

2019-11-08 05:13:00 UTC

please...

2019-11-08 05:13:38 UTC

that assertion they had a clear bias against trump isn't true, in some cases they had a bias FOR trump, trying to keep this stuff out of the public

2019-11-08 05:13:42 UTC

in comparison to the clinton investigation

2019-11-08 05:13:59 UTC

"please..." i'm looking up the words, that's what im finding

2019-11-08 05:14:00 UTC

I'm talking about Strzok and Page

2019-11-08 05:14:09 UTC

specifically

2019-11-08 05:14:20 UTC

they had no love for Trump

2019-11-08 05:14:25 UTC

that's very clear

2019-11-08 05:14:28 UTC

they weren't the only people involved

2019-11-08 05:14:39 UTC

they should have been removed from the whole thing

2019-11-08 05:14:40 UTC

by a long shot, as the DOJ admits today regarding the error

2019-11-08 05:14:46 UTC

when those texts came to Comey's attention

2019-11-08 05:15:24 UTC

But, the entire thing is corrupt so Comey probably didn't think it would matter

2019-11-08 05:15:32 UTC

maybe i dunno, that's up for a judge and defense lawyer to argue about. bias doesn't really hurt one's ability to investigate

2019-11-08 05:15:34 UTC

it's corrupt people going after corrupt people

2019-11-08 05:15:44 UTC

it should work the other way around, you want people that are going to dig

2019-11-08 05:15:45 UTC

they're all corrupt

2019-11-08 05:15:54 UTC

how are they corrupt?

2019-11-08 05:16:00 UTC

not liking somebody is not corruption

2019-11-08 05:16:10 UTC

no of course not

2019-11-08 05:16:18 UTC

so then it's not corruption

2019-11-08 05:16:35 UTC

but not taking someone off an investigation when they text all day long about "insurance policies" and hating Trump, etc is fucked

2019-11-08 05:16:50 UTC

having someone else alter your documents is fucked

2019-11-08 05:17:09 UTC

anyway, it's pointless to even talk about it

2019-11-08 05:17:13 UTC

is it fucked though? investigations are one thing, anybody can find stuff. it's different if you need them as amaterial witnesse etc

2019-11-08 05:17:15 UTC

we've both made up our minds

2019-11-08 05:17:21 UTC

Lol

2019-11-08 05:17:28 UTC

no you have, i really dont care beyond the evidence

2019-11-08 05:17:38 UTC

tons of people lying about contact with russians?

2019-11-08 05:17:42 UTC

come on

2019-11-08 05:18:02 UTC

Only somebody who likes Trump can be trusted to provide evidence against him. But then once they do, clearly they don't like Trump anymore - so they can't be trusted!

2019-11-08 05:18:05 UTC

Quite the Catch 22

2019-11-08 05:18:15 UTC

like I said, if their contact with Russians was against some law, then it's crooks catching crooks

2019-11-08 05:18:35 UTC

let's say it's not against the law, lying about it is

2019-11-08 05:18:51 UTC

michael flynn was former head of DIA, he knows better

2019-11-08 05:19:06 UTC

I find it interesting that the entire investigation was only able to snag people on process crimes

2019-11-08 05:19:19 UTC

Trump wants unconditional loyalty and will reciprocate if he feels like it.

2019-11-08 05:19:24 UTC

Jesus, Trump and associates must be fucking geniuses to cover this shit up

2019-11-08 05:19:36 UTC

I don't because that's what you expect in intelligence work, it's very hard to do

2019-11-08 05:19:50 UTC

are you an intelligence officer?

2019-11-08 05:19:52 UTC

i was

2019-11-08 05:20:00 UTC

you seem to know everything about everything

2019-11-08 05:20:07 UTC

it's in the title 'intelligence'

2019-11-08 05:20:14 UTC

we aren't the dumb ones

2019-11-08 05:20:35 UTC

are you still working in intelligence right now as we speak?

2019-11-08 05:20:36 UTC

lol

2019-11-08 05:20:41 UTC

He said "was"

2019-11-08 05:20:42 UTC

Can you read?

2019-11-08 05:20:44 UTC

doing your duty

2019-11-08 05:20:44 UTC

Dummy

2019-11-08 05:21:02 UTC

Oh are you implying he is a spy?

2019-11-08 05:21:02 UTC

now im reading about brazillian rain forest people getting shot

2019-11-08 05:21:05 UTC

Haha

2019-11-08 05:21:17 UTC

I'm just asking if he's still on the clock

2019-11-08 05:21:22 UTC

You know too much, you must be a deep state operative man

2019-11-08 05:21:34 UTC

<:haha:583236087137435659>

2019-11-08 05:21:50 UTC

my love for country hasn't died yet, thankfully

2019-11-08 05:22:07 UTC

Semper Fidelis

2019-11-08 05:22:45 UTC

That article you linked me earlier

2019-11-08 05:22:57 UTC

written by Hedges

2019-11-08 05:23:13 UTC

yea from common dreams

2019-11-08 05:23:52 UTC

I'm only half way through, I'll finish it in a minute, but so far it sums up how I feel about the whole thing pretty well

2019-11-08 05:24:08 UTC

Who do you people support in the election

2019-11-08 05:24:59 UTC

you guys come across as though you're defending this "deep state" or whatever you want to call it

2019-11-08 05:25:08 UTC

cadre of entrenched politicians, whatever

2019-11-08 05:25:47 UTC

I understand the nuance. the trump people ruined a very useful term that really doesn't apply to what they are complaining about

2019-11-08 05:26:03 UTC

Career bureaucrats aren't really the deep state

2019-11-08 05:26:04 UTC

I don't think Trump is some amazing wonderful person, but he went against the real people in charge and that's why he's getting fucked in the ass now, not because they care about right and wrong

2019-11-08 05:26:31 UTC

Yea but he wasn't for real change, it was an illusion. For those of us who have been in the reform game a long time, we knew better

2019-11-08 05:26:55 UTC

i'm all for real change and challenging the real 'deep state', I don't think the trump people misused that term innocently either

2019-11-08 05:27:23 UTC

I can name the names of people that are really part of it and he doesn't go anywhere near them. appointing wilbur fucking ross of all people? come on

2019-11-08 05:27:25 UTC

Also, no matter how his message may have resonated with some (foolish) people - his delivery of it was abominable. I'm sorry, but we have to hold politicians (particularly the head of our state) to a certain standard.

2019-11-08 05:27:49 UTC

what about the rest of them?

2019-11-08 05:27:53 UTC

He had so much baggage tied to him too

2019-11-08 05:27:54 UTC

Smh

2019-11-08 05:28:01 UTC

shit on him all you want, but there's a truckload of other shitbags

2019-11-08 05:28:02 UTC

Idk how he was "the chosen one" lol

2019-11-08 05:28:19 UTC

Nobody said there aren't, that's partly why he has been so damaging

2019-11-08 05:28:38 UTC

who is standing up against the "deep state"

2019-11-08 05:28:46 UTC

very patriotic people

2019-11-08 05:28:59 UTC

i don't see anyone doing anything

2019-11-08 05:29:06 UTC

who is standing up against the "illuminati"?

2019-11-08 05:29:10 UTC

I believe that part

2019-11-08 05:29:11 UTC

I see America slowly circling the drain

2019-11-08 05:29:17 UTC

who is standing up against the "goblins"?

2019-11-08 05:29:25 UTC

lol

2019-11-08 05:29:33 UTC

the LOTR guys

2019-11-08 05:29:56 UTC

Your mom

2019-11-08 05:30:12 UTC

<:honk:583238347124637707>

2019-11-08 05:30:39 UTC

Take the whistleblower stuff with Rand Paul, that's extremely dangerous to others

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