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This isnโt a game, it isnโt a trick
You literally have not stated your position.
you mean by grandstanding about some pedantic grammatical thing when the context is clearly there? ๐
sure dude
If you think that you have, I encourage you to quote yourself where you did
If you feel the โcontext is clearly thereโ
not my problem you'd rather play this kinda game than just read
Then my apologizes, would you please clarify.
This is sincerely not a game
You havenโt stated your position
Something with Schiff and comey and Russia
But Iโm literally not sure
yeah go read it it's pretty plain english
Honest to god
It is not
You did not write it
sucks to be bad at reading then
Please, make me look like a moron by quoting yourself where you stated it
I encourage you to do that
I don't see it either, but Chloroform here thinks I'm a meanie ;(
Lol
not really, you don't gotta lie too now
silly
Ok, I guess weโll run through it
โstill love how you scurried away with your tail between your legs when the questions about the people coming under the hammer for decades of corruption got too real for ya ;)โ
I said some switch flipped in your brain that day and all you had to contribute was posting gay porn lol
So this claim is that โpeople coming under the hammer for decades of corruptionโ
So I asked who
chlro has the sharpest insight into pedantry, egoism, and the conspiracy against the man with thousands of lawsuits
Then you said:
no the claim is the questions about them got too real
โnot really, we asked you where the evidence was that Comey and Schiff promised and why nobody is talking about that anymoreโ
in response to...
โThe evidence was that comey and Schiff promised...โ
Then you just cut off and interrupted yourself
Then you clarified and said:
โdirect evidence of collusion with Russiaโ
So โthe evidence was that comey and Schiff promised direct evidence of collusion with Russiaโ
yeah I was hoping Cosby would finally comment on it since he kind of disappeared that day after something short circuited in him
Is that your claim?
you know you're not this bad at piecing information together so you can cut the crap ๐
Cosby gave up on you, buddy... I'm....sorry....
yeah you gave up when the questions got too real
I donโt want to mischaracterize your position
that much was pretty clear
So is that your claim?
That Schiff and comey promised direct evidence of collusion with Russia?
shifty schiff
yes that's how far you've gotten with all your grandstanding
good work
Dude nice arrow
So yes, that is your claim
PowerPoint? You did a nice job
Ok, now when you say collusion, do you mean trump with Russia, the trump campaign with Russia, or what?
(why would I use powerpoint lol)
sure, I mean "collusion" isn't really a crime so we're talking about "conspiracy" ultimately, Trump conspiring with Russia
so that got investigated for 2 years right?
Ok, this would be so much easier if you would just say your claim
Will you please just debate in good faith
just because you keep saying that doesn't make it true, please stop this dishonest projection
Iโm asking you a simple question about your position
Cosby knows what I'm talking about he scurried away from it lol
And instead youโre making me cross examine you to figure it out
You are being not debating in good faith
no you're doing that yourself cause you know the answer isn't what you want it to be ๐ this game you play is more fun to you anyways
So please just stop being dishonest
Iโm not playing a game dude
Why are you so afraid of being committed to an actual claim
you accuse others of "not debating in good faith" when you can see pretty evidently what I wrote and even piece it together (wow)
cause I already said it and you're here making a big fuss
I did not want to mischaracterize your statement
So I asked you what your claim was
How could that possibly be taken as dishonest
and that's where I'm gonna draw my entertainment I suppose for the next half hour til I gotta cook dinner (mmh enchiladas)
Jesus
Ok, so you just admitted youโre just trolling
Guess I have my answer then
what was there to mischaracterize, you summarized it and I validated that
lol
I think I gave him PTSD
You literally do not have a claim, youโre just trying to entertain yourself by people trying to nail down your claim
Yeah, heโs afraid of writing a conclusion I guess
sure Cosby that's why you flipped a switch and started posting gay porn and couldn't answer a pretty benign question
not really, wait let me do this in the most passive aggressive way possible with powerpoint arrows ok?
Whatโs going on?
cause it's more fun that way ๐
Lol the gay porn really upset you huh
Itโs part of debating that sometimes you have to state your position
It really got under your skin, good
no it didn't upset me, you don't need to lie, you were upset and that's the one thing that could comfort you in your corner
Yeah, heโs totally lost it
Youโre clearly very upset
Itโs interesting how often he accuses people of lying and being dishonest
Major projection
yes I'm so upset I have the devout attention of two nerds in a chat room furiously typing at me โ
<:ainz:538084033410891776> inb4 "haha" and laughing faces pretending he's not mad
Yes, correct
Oh just as good
You are quite clearly upset
Try to calm down
at what though?
I'd have to take you guys seriously for starters
I have no idea, you are unwilling or unable to write a complete sentence of what you believe.
Idk why, like obviously I'm a mean man, but Sophie was being so nice to you, just trying to figure out what you want to say :/
I guess youโre afraid of being proven wrong?
nah Cosby is that is the very essence of what started this conversation lol
I mean, to me you seem like the asshole
I came into this debate fresh
Asked you what your position was
And you literally refused to tell me
my position is that Cosby was afraid to answer a simple question
and has been this whole time
Mhm, care to say what that question was?
question about what? where is the evidence Comey and Schiff promised for russian collusion?
Because you have not yet
yes I did I even made you re-state it lol
Ok, so the question was: โwhere is the evidence comey and Schiff promised for Russian collusionโ
that is the question that got Cosby to freak out and post gay porn yes ๐
Is it your belief that Comey and Schiff promised to provide evidence for Russian collusion?
instead of just answer it
Well, neither of them ever made that claim
So I donโt think that question is possible to answer
Do you have any evidence to suggest Comey or Schiff made that claim?
will you give me time or are you going to make false claims about me while I get it?
If you debate in good faith, so will I
sure ya will ok give me a bit
I do not believe either of them ever made statements to that effect, if you have evidence showing otherwise I would be interested to see.
Ok, I am leaving shortly, when you find it please tag me.
sounds good peace oot, this ain't over Cosby ;) I've got enchiladas to make too so we'll pick up where we left off later
Das cool
Top official says Trump wanted Ukraine to announce a "Clinton" probe, further undermining Trumpโs defenses
"This evening, the House Intelligence Committee subpoenaed Acting Chief of Staff Mick Mulvaney for a previously scheduled deposition tomorrow morning."
I mean Adam Schiff. More like Adam shit
Didnโt you tell Abraham to cut one of those open for sacrifice @Gะพd
I enjoy a good veal
Schiff repeatedly claimed to have evidence of Russian collusion
I dunno about Comey, but I wouldn't be surprised if he made the same claim as well
well Comey was fired mid investigation
Schiff is head of the intel committee, so he may have been talking far too much for the IC, and he pushed to get mueller report released, from there it depends on how you look at Mueller report
several people lied about having contacts with russia and and wikipedia, some are in jail for it/plead to it. catching training spies is going ot be tough because they use cut outs but there are pretty clear links between camps
the White house also tried to interfere where they could, firings, telling people not to testify, etc
the public version also has redactions which don't affect Schiff
Manafort lied, stone lied, cohen lied
Flynn lied
What did the lying mostly relate to? Contact with Russia
didn't the FBI alter Flynn's testimony?
the 302s
I think they labeled the STrok stuff incorrectly
Or other way around, stuff other agents collected they labeled as having been collected by STrok
Flynn plead guilty to lying to the FBI about the Russian ambassador
he and Lisa Page texted back and forth about altering documents
pleading guilty to something doesn't necessarily mean you actually did it
sometimes, sometimes it means you did way more
I'm sure FBI agents and lawyers who had a clear bias against Trump and talked about altering documents were completely on the up and up
no worries here boys
Edit and Page/strock stuff seems to suggest he didn't think he was a good writer
please...
that assertion they had a clear bias against trump isn't true, in some cases they had a bias FOR trump, trying to keep this stuff out of the public
in comparison to the clinton investigation
"please..." i'm looking up the words, that's what im finding
I'm talking about Strzok and Page
specifically
they had no love for Trump
that's very clear
they weren't the only people involved
they should have been removed from the whole thing
by a long shot, as the DOJ admits today regarding the error
when those texts came to Comey's attention
But, the entire thing is corrupt so Comey probably didn't think it would matter
maybe i dunno, that's up for a judge and defense lawyer to argue about. bias doesn't really hurt one's ability to investigate
it's corrupt people going after corrupt people
it should work the other way around, you want people that are going to dig
they're all corrupt
how are they corrupt?
not liking somebody is not corruption
no of course not
so then it's not corruption
but not taking someone off an investigation when they text all day long about "insurance policies" and hating Trump, etc is fucked
having someone else alter your documents is fucked
anyway, it's pointless to even talk about it
is it fucked though? investigations are one thing, anybody can find stuff. it's different if you need them as amaterial witnesse etc
we've both made up our minds
Lol
no you have, i really dont care beyond the evidence
tons of people lying about contact with russians?
come on
Only somebody who likes Trump can be trusted to provide evidence against him. But then once they do, clearly they don't like Trump anymore - so they can't be trusted!
Quite the Catch 22
like I said, if their contact with Russians was against some law, then it's crooks catching crooks
let's say it's not against the law, lying about it is
michael flynn was former head of DIA, he knows better
I find it interesting that the entire investigation was only able to snag people on process crimes
Trump wants unconditional loyalty and will reciprocate if he feels like it.
Jesus, Trump and associates must be fucking geniuses to cover this shit up
I don't because that's what you expect in intelligence work, it's very hard to do
are you an intelligence officer?
i was
you seem to know everything about everything
it's in the title 'intelligence'
we aren't the dumb ones
are you still working in intelligence right now as we speak?
lol
He said "was"
Can you read?
doing your duty
Dummy
Oh are you implying he is a spy?
now im reading about brazillian rain forest people getting shot
Haha
I'm just asking if he's still on the clock
You know too much, you must be a deep state operative man
<:haha:583236087137435659>
my love for country hasn't died yet, thankfully
Semper Fidelis
That article you linked me earlier
written by Hedges
yea from common dreams
I'm only half way through, I'll finish it in a minute, but so far it sums up how I feel about the whole thing pretty well
Who do you people support in the election
you guys come across as though you're defending this "deep state" or whatever you want to call it
cadre of entrenched politicians, whatever
I understand the nuance. the trump people ruined a very useful term that really doesn't apply to what they are complaining about
Career bureaucrats aren't really the deep state
I don't think Trump is some amazing wonderful person, but he went against the real people in charge and that's why he's getting fucked in the ass now, not because they care about right and wrong
Yea but he wasn't for real change, it was an illusion. For those of us who have been in the reform game a long time, we knew better
i'm all for real change and challenging the real 'deep state', I don't think the trump people misused that term innocently either
I can name the names of people that are really part of it and he doesn't go anywhere near them. appointing wilbur fucking ross of all people? come on
Also, no matter how his message may have resonated with some (foolish) people - his delivery of it was abominable. I'm sorry, but we have to hold politicians (particularly the head of our state) to a certain standard.
what about the rest of them?
He had so much baggage tied to him too
Smh
shit on him all you want, but there's a truckload of other shitbags
Idk how he was "the chosen one" lol
Nobody said there aren't, that's partly why he has been so damaging
who is standing up against the "deep state"
very patriotic people
i don't see anyone doing anything
who is standing up against the "illuminati"?
I believe that part
I see America slowly circling the drain
who is standing up against the "goblins"?
lol
the LOTR guys
Your mom
<:honk:583238347124637707>
Take the whistleblower stuff with Rand Paul, that's extremely dangerous to others
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