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reddit /u/Autogyrophile posted a new link in /r/politics
US proposal for defining gender has no basis in science - https://redd.it/9zazz1
So far i kinda like this tbh
It will b harder for women to still have more rights than men if there are 0 genders
"There are more then 2 Genders"
dont forget that
There's only two genders, but there's a hell of a lot of gender dysphoric fantasies that go on encouraged. It's like telling a schizophrenic patient "your right! The curtains are trying to choke you, the rug really is eating your feet, and the devil really is in your food! Your not ill, your totally fine!"
I edited, not delete
U reposted so u deleted first
Huh.. I was shut I clicked edit. Alright
The way I describe the Gender thing as someone with biochem and genetics in my toolbox is. Gender is a role in which a sex takes on due to the traits that sex has. However, due to the fact we no longer discriminate between sexes and teach girls and boys both male and female advantageous activities; gender has essentially been wiped from existence.
the discrimination between genders has never been bigger
@TheNobody You think? In what area do we treat kids differently based on their sex?
but with kids its more socially
teacher were always nicer to girls
@TheNobody I say kid's because that's where this whole gender identity begins. By the time you're an adult you're pretty well fixed as to who you are. I guess you could say that, but kids are essentially treated the same unless it comes to a specific sex related thing, like toilets or puberty.
but not quite there
Not a lot to deal with here.
I think this is 1 of the biggest problems we have by far
I think that idea is a sign we have fucked up priorities
I think it is pretty fucked up when people start to believe their own shit
Like the wage gap
What about the wage gap?
It’s non existent
Depends on the criteria. Overall there is, 0.81 female to 1.00 male.
However, peer to peer it barely registers (plus or minus 3 cents.)
Problem is gender dominated employment such as farming, construction, and such.
When women want to do the hard, risky work I will give them some their right to bitch.
The problem is that they bitch
Love when reality smacks people in the face!
"BY THE END OF HER LIFE, THE AVERAGE WOMAN WILL HAVE A NEGATIVE FISCAL IMPACT OF $150,000"
women are discriminated against, men are somehow not valued as much as women at the same time, and if you believe that tumblr has any knowledge when it comes to actual feminism, mental illness and gender then you are a retard. 🤷♀️🤠
I believe men and women can never be equal
Sexual Dimorphism is a thing.
Part that pisses me off is the ladies scream bloody murder about how they have it so bad, yet them seem to have no problem wraping gents around their finger.
Bit of a generalisation right there
If guys weren’t always so thirsty they couldn’t be wrapped around fingers... and 9 out of 10 cards are stacked against women and were wrong for playing the one that we consistently have?
I mean that's only partly true
It's become more equal in recent years
But I'll agree women still have the worse time
But men often don't get the attention they deserve
Like 3/4 of suicides being men
Prostate cancer getting a fraction of the funding for research that breast cancer gets
Emotional openness and toxic masculinity
Toxic masculinity is a plague, I think it hurts men and women (men much more so)
Sadly biology makes us horny bastards, and yes it a great way to control us. Wish that wasn't true, but self control is hard for most folks.
Don't give me this crap about everything being loaded against you. I don't have any rights that you don't, and the world isn't fair to anyone!
I wish there was more done from all of society to fight it
I’m not saying you have more rights, I’m just saying some of the systemic challenges we have to face make it much more difficult for us to exercise our rights
EVERYONE has challenges, just ask any group of people...
Can I discuss this with you later? I happen to be a bit pissy at the moment (nothing you did) and don't want to throw the hate hammer by accident.
For when I return, please give me your definition of "toxic masculinity."
@Tyberius D deal, and I truly just want to discuss I promise I won’t throw a hate hammer at you even if I strongly disagree if you do the same with me deal?
I’m probably going to log off soon, but here’s my first volley at a definition:
Toxic masculinity is where a man or men are shamed for showing emotions or desires that don’t align with what has traditionally been labeled as masculinity.
Examples, not being able to express emotions including fear, sadness or insecurity.
Preferring a sweet drink over a beer, not enjoying hunting, or violence. Taking pride in own appearance, showing vulnerability.
Boys don’t cry, anything that a man could lose a “man card” for doing
Sure thing, I'm already coming down.
I wouldn't argue that's toxic, just traditional. I do think men need some form of self-identity, but there are a number of things there that I don't think have to be on that list.
I guess TM doesn't effect me because I have no problem doing things I want. I'm usually pretty happy to have a reason to tell someone to shove it.
Side note, if there is TM then I think there is also a Toxic Feminity. Great example, men can sleep around but the ladies shouldn't. Either we should all be able to sleep around or should exercise restraint.
I agree, I’m fairly sex positive and I get almost as much flack from other females as I do males for sleeping around
I think many girls are that way though because society has taught us we need to be good girls, if we’re not we’re worth less, we’re sluts, worthless etc
Lots of girls want to show they aren’t by putting down others that are to show they are different
It used to bother me, but that when I could count my partners on one hand. After I got to a 2nd hand that attitude changed for me.
Doesn't matter much though, only ladies that like me now outweigh me.
*Not reading all that* but i strongly disagree 9/10 cards are agenst women when women have MORE rights and even have it easier socially
Tf u on about more rights
Have to ask that as well
vote with no draft
domestic abuse aid
"A man commits rape if—
(a) he has sexual intercourse with a woman who at the time of the intercourse does not consent to it, and
(b) at that time he knows that she does not consent to the intercourse or he is reckless as to whether she does or does not consent to it,
and references to rape in this Act and any other enactment shall be construed accordingly.
The act also restricted reference to the alleged victim's past sexual history, and provided anonymity for both parties. Originally, the act referred to "unlawful sexual intercourse"; the word unlawful, intended to preserve the exemption for marital rape, was deleted by the 1990 act.
Section 4 of the 1990 act defines "rape under section 4" as follows:
In this Act "rape under section 4" means a sexual assault that includes—
(a) penetration (however slight) of the anus or mouth by the penis, or
(b) penetration (however slight) of the vagina by any object held or manipulated by another person."
if you read that
in a really long way it says only men can rape
I wouldn't call those rights, privileges for sure but we gents have a few of our own.
also yeah idk what else other than rights to call it ty
There are jobs we can do that women have serious trouble with (hard labor.) We have no old stigmas slowing is down.
thats cus of biology tho
not cus someone is out to get them
Well there hasn’t been a draft since Vietnam, and it’s largely been men fighting to keep women out of combat roles in the military.
I also think that if there was a serious epidemic of rape directed towards men, where someone was penetrating your bodies against your will as frequently as happens to females you’d be more understanding of consent laws
I stated the draft point eariler, but the rape laws could use a review.
51% + of men claim to be sexual harassed by a female within a shot time after the age of 16
idk what % of that is rape it dosnt say
i talked to many females who think its ok to do that to men cus they are men
i know at least 1 that raped guys while they were sleeping ect
when i asked her about it she says "its just for fun its not real rape there guys they like it"
in a socity where women think its ok or like you dont think it happens, men are afraid to talk about it and the gov wont do much about it
dont u think its possible that means it happens a lot ?
What acts are we talking about exactly?
in public she pretends to fall and grabs there croch
or if she thinks there 2 young she will jsut grab it if they are alone
and while 1 was sleeping she gave him a hand job
a few times
Your friend must be attractive, non of that has happened to me
I don’t think it should be trivialized if men are sexually assaulted it’s not cool, same as when teachers sleep with students it’s always wrong
I think it does happen more commonly with women, and I don’t know what it’s like to be a man but i know what it’s like to be afraid in many situations
well at least u have a nice open mind and attitude <:GWfroggyPepoThumb:400751103223922689> @Deleted User
im glad this place didnt have any toxic debates yet
I am truly amazed none if us has busted out the hate engine. Worse I have seen is trolls and a NAZI
Just what a Nazi would say 😂jk
He wasn't the person
I know I was just trying to make a joke
Saw the jk. What's on today's list?
Was wondering what today 's discussion would be.
Cant bealive i forgot but another right women have that men dont circumcision
Hey that’s a religious thing don’t put that at the feet of women
i talking about rights
women have the right to genital integrity
Your definition of rights must be very vague
Also female circumcision is a thing
its elegal in most places
very very rare
while there is no country where male circumcision is elegal
It is not rare at all
It is illegal however
it is rare
Join us for our next debate where we will discuss: "Is the sky blue?"
Especially in africa
Also FGM is worse than circumcision
Depends on the country
Circumcision only happens with Jews and American people
FGM is a huge problem in a lot of countries
Not so much in the west though
No its not
Huh it’s not rare at all
There are a high enough number of cases a year in the UK for it to be a news worthy issue
The only reasson it in the news is cus its rare
That is dodgy hypothesis
News != rare things
In africa it isnt rare at all
P fucked 2 lie like that
I bet they stay together
Looks like it
why are they wearing soviet hats
They are russian ig
I bet they spilt
She’s prettier than I am tbh
You are fucking high
Is it gay if you are conjoined twins and your balls touch ?
it it gay to have balls?
Being conjoined, do you have separate sets of balls or do you share them?
im pretty sure it depends
First wave feminisem was cancer change my mind
Haha too much Crowder my friend
Let's talk about everyone's favorite thing the gender wage gap real of fake please show evidence not forged by a dickhead
Hmm, we've got a Crowder virgin here...
Louder with Crowder
o i c
He's got a show on CRTV, and free stuff on YouTube
i like him
He's gone for December, studio updates
Oh, I love it. Saved
While i like it i wouldnt use it im a debate cus its not proof
There is no sorce to a study
But its still good
where is the **SAUCE**
A simple Google search will do just look up the job titles.
Even mainstream admits it
i got in a debate with people in my class. Now im the class sexist. But im like the class everything - The class ‘classist’ (not even something i said, just the way i speak so they assume i hate chavs which i dont but the way they speak is bloody annoying), Im also the class Racist because im a pro brexit conservative and im the class homophobe because i dislike one gay person in the class even though he is a dick. So science is always fun.
tbh now i just go super extreme and take my views and make them really radical just to see how people will react
once i said anyone who is not posh should be purged and they got so triggered the next day they printed pictures of me which said ‘Stop the bourgeoisie posh toff.
What's a posh?
idk if you are serious or not
i thought it was a standard word used in most English speaking countries
Basically Posh People are the Upper Middle/Upper class people who speak proper English. If you want to know what we sound like listen to Jacob Rees-Mogg, The Queen, Stephen Fry.
There is no way i woulda known that lol
i thought it was a common word in other countries
Not from usa lol
Posh is strictly British in my experience
im from Englqnd
yeah you do not find Posh people in other countries unless they move there
I ment just the term... 🙄
I thought the word was known in most English speaking countries
Yeah posh applies to all lad.
but tbh you all fuck up our language anyway
Posh Polish, posh german, posh French etc
Yeah when people hear it they will usually connote it with the British
from my experience even with foreigners
Well the "london" accent is supposedly what all British people sound like.
when as we all know, that's not the case. Top kek.
Its not even London really
why is this shit in gender issues?
trust me im considered ‘Posh’ and a lot of other posh people come from north london or villages but the rest of London is full of chavs. idk why its here
@Deleted User People call me "posh" where I live and people I interact with in person but online people think I sound like a Northern chav?
i sound to posh so everyone assumes that i’m basically royalty
Use it to your advantage.
honestly i dont get what is wrong with sounding posh, because everyone thinks its bad but honestly if i sounded like a chav or a northerner or god forbid sounded like a scott i would end my life
Anyway I got a new debate if anyone wants to hear it
nigger hit me
call the POPO'
im too sensitive
Should women have rights? Meaning the right to vote etc etc
I drop the hammer
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