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muh prosperity of the century is built on my neoliberal ideology that will crash
the eurobarometer in 2018 showing the majority of europeans like the EU
@Deleted User not talking to you
mass unrest
you got me
eurobarometer
<:xd:517655739955675136>
okay
oh right
jewish conspiracy
this index says everything is fine
@Irish Princess what're you measuring prosperity in
<:coolpepe:471698334877351966>
<:pepohmm:517650135073685514>
in iphones
everybody has iphones, that means everything is fine
I measure prosperity by general quality of life.
big yikes
I'm done here
I'd rather people have shit than have flags in mud huts.
Sorry, bro.
ew
materialist
okay
i dont have an iphone
you disgust me
If you hate poor people, that's cool.
even by materialist standards people aren't doing good
You do you.
lol yeah im not stupid like you boo hoo
I love poor people
if you consider housing prices
I mean
they
literally are
lmfao
hur dur i have an iphone
im so rich smart and fabulous hur dur
Just because you *want* people to be doing bad doesn't mean they are.
but you saying that globalistic cooperation between nations leads to prosperity is super gay
yes
it does
it empirically does
it doesnt though lol
yeah
it does
if you put worth of people on what phones they have boy have i news for you
or else the wealth gap wouldnt be growing
or that wages don't meet hours worked lol
globalism is good only for the ones who don't care about the industries in their home countries, the ones with high agency, the ones who only care about cheaper goods
cuz i could just buy an iphone rn
but i dont give a shit about my country
or that china will come out better than the US in the next recession epic style
it doesn't matter if all the coal industry in poland is closed down and you start importing from china
why should i?
I defend the working class here
would you give a shit about some backwater timbuk 2 country?
>next recession
recessionary periods are closing
โ **You have to be in a voice channel to use this command.**
lol
over time, recessions have become smaller and less prolonged
the average length of a recession now is 10 months
comparative to the 1910's
you two belong in this clown world
i care about the planet on a whole
when it was 22 months
and nationalism has only harmed that
ะทะฐะฑะตะน ะฝะฐ ะฝะธั
@Deleted User You don't need to give a shit about your *people* (why you keep conflating nationalism with your country and not people is beyond me) You're a cosmopolitan ancom who just wants to live in your gay weed-infested commune, ๐คท
iirc the kind of people who went around building up walls and trying to establish some sense of cultural purity, ended up being mass murderers
@Irish Princess nah we're gonna have our next recession and china will come out on top and authoritarianism will rise epic style
cool, i guess
oh no
my people?
casualties
oh no
you mean my family or my ancestors?
ะพะฝะธ ะดะฐะถะต ะฝะต ะฟะพัะตััะปะธ ัะฐัััะดะพะบ, ะพะฝ ั ะฝะธั ะฝะต ะฑัะป ะธะท ะฝะฐัะฐะปะฐ
cuz my family is dysfunctional as shit
and my ancestors, theyre dead
uhh your ethnic group, but if you're mixed to the point where you don't have a single ethnic group, then it's your family
you make a new family lol
sure they got me to where i am now and i appreciate their contribution to humanity
but they werent alone
im black, through and through
"my ancestors are dead so it doesnt matter what traditions they passed down if any"
my ancestors probably worked the plantations
lol who cares if you're black
just telling you my ethic group
thats even better actually, you have a more clear identity
yeah so?
so i dont get why you're pulling this bs about saying what is your identity when you know exactly what it is
im not saying people should go back to africa cuz thats where their ethnic group comes from
I mean, you people should ideally go back to Africa and establish a separate state, besides the point though
ur from the us right?
haha
Si
but you should be investing into building your own identity with a strong family unit
then go back to europe
not being a defeatist humanitarian
probably will go back to europe
>defeatist
lmfao
and stay there
but america was and is for WASPs
wasps?
built by WASPs
like i dont get why every black says "go back to europe" as a response
its for the natives
I want to go back to europe
let the natives be
Natives didn't build the USA
lol
they owned it tho
nope
yeah
first come first serve
they had distinctly different tribes
so?
that didnt resemble the USA
WASPs own the USA
USA is distinctly European
first come first serve
the united states of america is for whoever it is for. that's why the constitution doesn't explicitly state 'you must be anglo-saxon white'.
hell even black
first come first serve
@Irish Princess the historical identity is european babe
unless youre one of those might = right idiots
they dont own the land though lol
who gives a frick
and the colonizers did?
damn this server's censor game is strong
uhh europeans who dont want to end up like south africa do <:pepohype:517650135455367199> @Irish Princess
i can't even say the f word so i have to resort to mildly irritated rather than incensed
at this rate we'll be reduced to calling each other poopyhead before the day is out
and what gave these europeans this right?
Colonizers took land as well as natives, natices didn't own every square inch, I don't know why this is said to be true
wehre did the authority come from?
might? divine will? satans arsehole?
What gives the natives their right to land lol
first come first serve
dur
you're talking to someone who believes in the right to conquest
fyi
ok but colonizers came to untamed lands lol
untamed by whose standards
@Irish Princess i try not to use that anymore tbh, it's too easy
uhh like its literally untamed land, natives didn't own every square inch as i said before
f**kn j**
cuz yall europeans used to shit in the streets and think leeches and bloodletting was valid medical advice
????
id say yall were savages
Why're you bringing this up
you said the lands were untamed
yeah
but the natives were there
like undeveloped
oh you mean unexploited
???
No?
you said undeveloped
whaddya mean then
Like there wasn't roads or many permenant buildings there?
so?
it was all wilds?
natives had huts
and canoes
Yeah and?
they built from the natural environment
and
they didnt exploit the environment
He means undeveloped in a colloquial sense of civilisation; as in permanent residence, infrastructure, etc.
im not saying native land was undeveloped, because the land that the natives were on
I'm not even talking civilizational-wise
so who said the natives didnt have civilization?
I'm talking in the most basic terms possible
no one
you're just assuming shit lol
the amerindians of the caribbean had towns spanning islands
the mayans had actual cities
??
but you called the land untamed
yes
but the natives were there
so its untamed by your standards?
lol
the natives didnt own every square foot of land and only actually developed various parts of the two continents
I mean.
hey everyone! TIL your right to your land is determined by whether you make roads or not
lol
???
but you just said the right to land was first come first serve
so they have to exploit the shit out of all of it to own it?
I'm saying that 100% of the land wasn't owned by natives
couldnt they let nature be?
you have to exploit land to own it?
idk why you keep saying exploit, is building roads and buildings really exploiting land
it literally is exploiting it
Technically, the natives still own land under trust with the Federal Government of the United States, hence why the Bureau of Indian Affairs and reservations exist.
wait
so did natives
exploit land
dunno, does it matter?
you brought it up LOL
they built canoes and huts and shit so yeah
they did
whats your point
like you said, they didnt exploit all of it
YOU brought up EXPLOITATION
cuz they understand the importance of nature
they believed what i believe, land isnt owned by anyone
no one was shoved out a vagene with the divine right to own the land
but
they had clear concepts of land ownership
nah they didnt
tribes fought over hunting territories
you had full scale empires
with clear land ownership
lions fight for territory too
natives weren't ancoms
whats your point
is this going back to might = right?
why're you comparing natives to animals
I'm not on either side of this argument, but the Iroquois Confederacy basically centralised due to European arrival, so they had basic concepts of land property and acquisition and a need to represent themselves politically.
I haven't even made the point of might=right, you just go off tangents
cuz some of their behaviors such as tribalism and territorialism are animal like
oof
thats why i can make the comparison
alexei's animal-like too
<:coolpepe:471698334877351966>
lol
im not saying the natives were perfect
im saying your argument of ownership of land based on exploitation makes no frikcing sense
I never made that argument lol
"land was untamed"
ya you did
Untamed = not in use. He's arguing negative ownership; that is, natives weren't utilizing the entirety of the continent, so it'd be fallacious to imply they were in ownership of it all.
okay fine
I think.
I dunno.
in that case the europeans should have used the land that werent being used
You go off on just random tangents and can't get the point I'm making which is that natives didn't own 100% of the landmass, and by your rule of first come first serve, the land is both used by Europeans and Natives specifically. The United States of America is a state for Europeans (hell if generous, for natives and to stretch it further even blacks)
Ideally speaking, blacks should go back to Africa to escape whites and build a better Africa.
instead they stole the land the natives had
why
they did use the land that wasnt being used
LOL
my rule of first come first serve was playing the devils advocate
oh
like i said, my personal belief is land should be owned by no one
so you're just dumb at this point
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