they make up like 1% of bernie's support

but they are a very vocal minority

rich people create jobs and better tech

take away the rich peoples money and they cant hire as much people

When the top 1% get a tax break, do you think 'I can't wait for this to trickle down to me'

look

taxing them 30% wont bankrupt their business

> take away the rich peoples money and they cant hire as much people
@OwOUwU the people they do hire can't afford to live

maybe the people should get a better paying skill that isnt a minimum wage

you don't tax them thirty percent, you tax all money they make over 1 million or so by 30%

or move out of california

it's marginal

by what going to college?

not possible for everybody

@OwOUwU that's the problem, it takes money to move

Teachers are a great example of this

say I really love being a teacher

and I live in NYC

u dont even have to go to college

well, I'm fucked.

im working in a nail salon, 3-4k a month

I can't afford to move, and I can't just wait 30 years to get a raise either

I need money for my cancer bills

what do I do?

people working mcdonalds work harder than a nail salon

Under a bernie presidency, this problem is solved

u havent seen nail salons then

you havent seen mcdonalds

mcdonalds have lunch rush, nail salons rush all day

i get 0 breaks

Hey vin, if you got cancer, how would you pay for that

10 hours a day

Would you 'work harder and just get a promotion'

sitting down and painting nails?

its more than painting nails

it takes 30-60 mins per customer per session

some customer wants the full work

which takes 2 hours

ok?

72% of the workers in this country live paycheck to paycheck, and can not handle a surprise expense of 500$

This is bad.

whys it taking a long time make it hard

For the first time since the spanish flu, our national life expectancy is going down

and women are very picky

that is why I dislike this presidency

and support yang

yang took the L bro

yang did it for the meme

Trump has done nothing to stop the Chinese holocaust in tibet, and has not addressed the growing technological issues that plague our country

yang did it to help people, and he did it to raise awareness about UBI and automation

which he did

and well

automation will fuck us over

i mean trump has alot on his plate

yes

so what he cant cover every world problem

the president doesnt have infinite power

what problems *has* he covered

but stopping a genocide should be on his to do list

and same with tech

like

but i thought people outside of america didnt want america to police the world

this isn't 'visit the national science fair' this is saving our country

also what is the UN for then

strawman

Trump needs to work with the UN to stop it

Why is it trumps job to fix the rest of the world

@DoubleMint weren't you vetted before

no @melaniasmelons

oh hmm

Because

we have the biggest military

and there is a *holocaust* going on in china

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9GI_F2oqRl/?igshid=1t8jopdd264y4

thats chinas problem tho

so why exactly did we go to war with germany if not to stop the holocaust.

maybe we need to take care of the people inside our nation

we learn about the holocaust to make it never happen again

before we can fix other peoples problems

currently, china is making a holocaust

i guess it was in retaliation for pearl harbour....

not for the holocaust

the US did nothing for several years during it

We didnt join to stop the holocaust

We entered because japan attacked pearl harbor

I argue we must show compassion, and end the genocide of Uighur muslims

we didnt even know there was a holocaust till almost the end of the war

did people forget that

well we know there is a holocaust rn

like

dude

think about it

lol

who is going to help tibet

nobody

why america then

we need to embargo china

Why should we

theres literally every other country

i sympathise with u doublemint but you're a poor debater

same reason we sanction north korea

or algeria

or cuba

Why doesnt canada do something

Or uk

they do

they sanction china

we don't

like

Did they send the mounties

b r u h

For the holo

it's cause china owns the global economy

and gets to make a holocaust happen

so u want trump to fix americas problem and everyone elses that isnt americans problem in 4 years

i want a president who can stand up to that

and u think bernie can

or any other president

@OwOUwU that's not my argument.

My argument is that I am displeased with Trump not only ignoring the Uighur genocide completely, but praising Xi Jinping while it is happening

tell me why should we care about the people in tibet that doesnt involve "morals"

It is a holocaust, and we are doing nothing about it

i dont find it hard to have sympathy for others

Because they are humans, and millions of them are being tortured to death.

why do you vinhy?

i mean we got our own problems in america

oh i forgot, not having sympathy for others is the #1 conservative trait.

We, as a country, should not economically support a genocidal dictatorship.

maybe we should fix ourselves before we fix other people?

is it not possible to do both?

This is not clash of clans, just because we are allocating resources to embargo and/or sanction china, doesn't mean we can't help our people back at home

but...

An embargo does not take resources to initiate

bernie supports genocidal dicatorship

I thought the world was tired of america being the worlds police

and u say ur a for bernie

where did he support that

@OwOUwU you are changing the subject

dont tell me you think the castro comment counts

Bernie does not support genocide

why doesnt it count

Hitler had very impressive animal rights policies

does that make me a nazi?

no

because he said he had an effective literacy program

I hate hitler and everything about him

how does that mean he supports everything he did

??

u mean a reeducation probram

program

Bernie says he likes cuba's literacy rates

i mean u learn to love castro or u die

@OwOUwU did you forget when bernie condemned castro? several times?

if i said that china has an amazing rail system, does that mean i support Jinping?

He liked cuba's literacy rates

back to the original topic tho, let me ask you something:
are you at all upset over immigration taking american jobs?

This is all hilarious

duh

at least

the illegal immigration

Immigration stole over 1 million jobs over 10 years in this country

illegal

immigration

in the next ten years, it will take maybe 1.5 million more

but automation is projected to take **40 million** within that timeframe

nobody addressed that, except yang

automation is expensive

??????

its cheap

thats why they do it

when u raise minimum wage

they will

keeping a machine running is cheaper than paying wage, benefits, insurance

I agree

I don't

raising hte minimum wage will make automation happen faster

Learn to repair and maintain the machines

automation happens when the cost of automating becomes lower than the cost of workers

Ez

then the people will learn a better skill

Truckers are the most common job in 29 states, and 7 million jobs across the country rely on them, diners, hotels, etc. what happens when the self driving truck happens

we all know that technology makes jobs obsolete

it's a hard question to answer

thats why we get new skill

> automation happens when the cost of automating becomes lower than the cost of workers
@Syntak
which is ALWAYS, when technology gets to a certain point

or a skill thats hard to replace

like, if it rains spaghetti and meatballs

do I eat the spaghetti or meatballs first

What do the old phone operators do for work nowadays

if someone rather picks being a cash register as a full time job

So the 'learn to code' argument doesn't really work, what happens when truck drivers are 50 years old, what just pay for college and start a new career?

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why should it be everyone elses problem they cant afford basic stuff

We need a UBI supported through a VAT in order to let the people at the bottom actually have a chance at the american dream

@OwOUwU it shouldn't

People should just be able to break a leg and not have to spend the rest of their life in debt, and the taxes that come with that shouldn't have to affect others that much

Doctors should be able to prescribe housing like they do medicine

there are a limited amount of real good jobs out there,
crappy minimum wage jobs are becoming the only option for poor people

Make corporations pay taxes, and create more expansive social programs.

then get a desireable skill

Income inequality and mental issues go hand and hand

minimum wage jobs are for teens for spare cash

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Housing shortage is the cause

Trump is a fucktard who will screw up our Coronavirus response and ruin the country. The markets are already tumbling. All of you cucks can go fuck yourselves.

Get a degree in greek dance theory

Minimum wage jobs are transitional jobs

Your arguments are all valid, but the fact of the matter is, we have applied these arguments to our society, and as a result, for the first time since the spanish flu, our national life expectancy is going down

Not for living wages toraise a family

@OwOUwU thats a lie, minimum wage was first introduced by FDR to be a living wage. Saying its just for teens is an excuse. Millions of people live off these jobs

coronavirus woulda hit USA trump or no trump

If I was born in the 1950's, i have a 72% chance of doing better than my parents in life, today, I have a 44% chance

Minimum wage should be zero

yeah u were living right in the WW2 era

@OwOUwU Obviously but what is pence doing handling it, when he was gov he fucked up an HIV response

where USA was the most riches

@BuildTheWall are you volunteering for slavery?

@OwOUwU usa is still far and away the richest

The only difference is its all in the 1%

i mean pretty rich

Rather than morr equally spread like the 50s

https://tenor.com/view/trump-doll-gif-10279565

No minimum wage would be great if we could trust businesses to pay employees what they worth in relation to inflation, living standards, etc.

But that trust doesn't exist. Hence minimum wage.

**we are operating on a system built off the back of WWII, based entirely on infinite growth, which is unsustainable. By creating social programs and liberal economic policies, we are leveling the playing field in the United States, and making it so that people can actually work hard to have a good life**

The argument that this will cost too much in tax is not valid, as we can just stop bombing children in the middle east and spend less money on the military. We can increase taxes by a small amount on the middle class, and for everyone richer, by a sizeable amount, maybe 30% tax rate on all money made after 150,000$.

Imagine being a lefty and coming to a pro trump discord to debate people

@frozen sometimes i get curious at what makes u guys tick

great input @frozen

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I want to debate cause I feel like you all can convince me to switch to voting trump this november

https://mobile.twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1230889348167434240

Once usa is saved from trump im planning to write an article about his propaganda

I’m not here to debate anyone why would I give any input on a dumb conversation

Anyway y'all are some deluded dumbfucks, I'll be back with more people

Hey build the wall, you are generalizing my argument into someone else's opinion, that tweet is idiotic

Vote for Bernie

In a system of egotistical altruism, the losses the rich suffer are made up for by the gains in society that the poor make.

@DoubleMint Not a bad idea but why not start with the plethora of info that can be found on thedonald.win?

Operation chaos lmfao

Back with more people

Lol

Lmfao

See ya faggot

Just look at his profile pic

bernie is a crazy old faggot

is pretending to be a bernie bro a banable offense

Back with more people

He was LARPING

@Moose I am indeed a faggot