Because they tend to think countries don't need societal cohesion

Turning point USA celebrated when Nick Fuentes got banned. They don't really care.

Im more or less libertarian and i believe in the need for societal cohesion

I just dont think culture can be government mandated

Its a community thing to uphold

Yeah, but many with the "I just want to be left alone" mindset ignore that when you leave society alone

it goes to the left

Either way we are kinda just circlejerking here

What we need is what are we doing going forward

We're not circlejerking if we are discussing and occasionally disagreeing lol

Circlejerk is agreement with no substance

I just didn't want to get caught up in just complaining like those I get upset with

The best way to stay optimistic is to keep looking for how to improve it rather than pointing the problems

Culture can certainly be influenced by government interference. It seems our government has been largely indifferent when it comes to cultural matters, only endorsing new changes (i.e. gay marriage) when they become wildly popular.

In Hungary, the govt. initiated a massive fertility program that increase fertility rates.

I do what any one man can. I talk about shit. I hold certain values publicly, both politically and not. For better or worse my friends know i stand for personal responsibility for example, and i back it up. I have a good marriage and will teach my children

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I stay up to date and educated and write to politicians

I am among friends now

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In China, for the worse, the government destroyed old Chinese ideas such as Confucianism.

So, it's highly plausible that culture is influenced by government, among other things.

Im not saying it cant be im saying it shouldnt be

Even when corporations decide to push gender theory?

Correct.

Ideally that corporation would go woke go broke

If not, its one thing to be influenced by Mao telling you to submit or die, its another to be influenced by some mandatory seminars and subliminal ads.

Gucci, for example, hasn't seen a major decline in profits, yet they recently launched an ad campaign whose central idea was "gender-fluidity".

If people gave it a second thought they wouldnt be influenced

Either that or they want to be influenced for another reason

The average person isn't culturally conservative, so it's not like they care if Google promotes globo-homo.

You cant outlegislate ignorance. If you can combat it at all, its through the community

The objective wouldn't be to out-legislate apathy. It would be to prevent companies from pushing destructive cultural changes.

Too idealistic for today's government, obviously, but a conservative culture is superior to a liberal one.

sperm banks are degenerate and need to be banned, change my mind

If the PEOPLE cant be trusted with preventing companies from destroying culture, what makes you think outsourcing that responsibility to the government is any safer? If people are apathetic the govt will use that power to corrupt culture as well

And how so?

By pushing open borders?

oh shit yall are actually having a intellectual debate nvm

Sperm Banks should be considered child abuse actually

Unless you are married

A company has economic reasons for pushing degenerate liberal things, because consumerism and open-borders generate huge profits.

Putting a kid in a scenario without a father is so beyond fucked

Imagine being that selfish

I do agree, to an extent, that a government could be culturally destructive, like in China.

A govt need only keep corporate interests domestic, not control the attitudes that make corporations capable of pursuing certain things

you know what caused companies to become so evil

at least partially

Making them legally have to maximize profits

if they aren't fully owned by one person

I'm not advocating for a general or vague cultural filter, I'm advocating for a specific ban on certain destructive things.

It's possible, like with smoking for example.

We stopped smoking ads, and it had an effect on # of smokers.

Hard disagree. Theyre not always maximizing profits anymore anyway, they pursue personal agendas. Soros is technically influencing them as a person, much like we have the power to do in the aggregate.

I mean, their personal agenda barely costs them a fraction of their total profits.

They have money to spare, especially to influence the nation.

Well ChrisTiam, i hope someday a govt doesnt decide conservatism or gun ownership are "destructive" habits that need to be banned.

Like I said, specific bans on the ability to PUSH habits, not the habits themselves.

Whats common sense for me is not common sense for another. Lets sort it out as a community, not enforced under punishment of law

Like it or not, half the nation would find you destructive. You dont want to give the govt the power to act on that sentiment right now

Heck, a solid quarter wouldnt mind to see you dead

"Its not illegal to own a gun, but advocating gun ownership is pushing a dangerous habit, ban it"

A generation later, guns are banned anyway

The government would be able to do that now if Democrats had complete control.

The reason why this hasn't been done is because of plurality.

Well its unconstitutional... not that they care i suppose. But the answer is 1776, not flipping back and forth on who forces who to do what

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nFUvLNL7E8Q

This was aimed at younger audiences, as described by GUCCI themselves.

The fact that companies are allowed the freedom to push this propaganda at children is why I hold my position.

The government, in theory, has as much power as the people gives it.

I know, for a fact, that many people would be angry if the government banned propagations of gun culture

However, even in a pluralistic society, I don't think, for a second, that anyone defends what's shown in this video.

A lot would be angry if you banned that too. But what matters is any normal person is disgusted just like you and i. How do we keep society normal? Community values

I don't know if that's enough, is all I'm saying. My generation, at such a young age, doesn't really care for traditional values.

I actually share your concern. I dont know if its enough, but from my perspective its all i got

Most people are too apathetic as well, most boycotts fail miserably because no one commits anymore.

Democracy is the worst form of government, except for every other form of government <:trumpmoji:624684793036275730>

Democracy meaning republic ofc

The constitution can be suspended using a national emergency iirc

patriot act lets the government ignore citizenship if deemed a terrorist

lmao

"rights"

We have rights because we aren't a threat

Not do be all doomer on you, but that's the current state of the government

They own the laws and the means of enforcing them through courts

Selectively

But hopefully we change it after the second term

We did a lot to fight their courts already in the first term

Actually the reason we have rights is precisely BECAUSE we are a threat. Try to take them away, you have a problem. If they disarm us, different story.

FBI raids you if you are a threat

and the court gag orders you

They also ruled the US govt. can ignore constitutional rights during wartime when they imprisoned Japanese-Americans in WW2.

That case is overturned btw. Koramatsu

They'll just put you on a FBI suspected terrorist list instead

Well i guess when enough fuckery is afoot, the people act out, Zephfyre. Like by electing Trump

That is true

There is a natural breaking point for Americans imo

Like Pearl Harbor

Like 9/11

Like 1776

I give Americans the benefit of the doubt because 1776 was an INCREDIBLY long time in the making

relatively

Trump was also overdue, but here we are

Think about it this way, if we didn't have Obama, we wouldn't think about having Trump

It would've been Romney (secret Obama) types

Oof.

In an ironic way, Obama was one of the best things because it caused Trump

I dont claim to know how it would be

But its possible

Still, eff obama

Well, yeah

He was straight up an Islamic Agent

Idk about all that, its enough for me that his policies were trash and he accelerated the govts corruption by 50 years overnight

Yeah, people only react to overt changes in America

If it was 50 years slower, there would be no end in sight

All the "we will 1776 if they take our guns!!!" guys seem to think they just walk up and do it at once

No, they are much more insidious

As people in t_d liked to say, moving the overton window

They do it slowly, and make you accept compromise

But we are bound to win in the end imo

Whether by hard or soft reset, we have to

Trump is the soft attempt

*banned for advocating violence*

Well hoping it doesnt come to that obviously

Hi all, I been a T_D lurker since the beginning. Now that it's dead I hope the memes continue on thedonald.win
Also, the Reddit admins taking over the domreddit is the most BS thing I've ever seen on the site. It's now a sub.

It is.

Also I'm happy that the discord is open now I failed being vetted like 3 times because I never post shit there just lurk

Mods havent responded to my vetting yet <:sweetsad:624681482337910794>

TD on Reddit is gone?

it's there

It's restricted right now.

but it's actually retarded what the admins are doing

Reddit took over the leadership

Fuck Reddit

But Reddit asserted control more heavily today.

Those losers are going to shoot their shot on Bloomberg? Talk about low energy

@christiam @Zephfyre appreciated our discussions btw

np @Kekistani American

Its good to know what people are thinking

Windows has decided to metastasize

I've already disabled the updates, but alas, they come anyways

My brother the reddit mod wtg

Oops forgot to scribble his ID out rip

Fascists who want weaker govt, deregulation, ending wars

5head

They want to BE the government

They want to send you off to camp

1st gen legal immigrant from the soviet union

Im familiar

With the type

poop

In the paper the other day (we have a socialist party in politics), somebody called the leader a communist for a communist party as an insult, which of course it is

The idiot said that it wasn't an insult, but more of a compliment that people would think of them as a communist party

What the fuck do they teach in school

Collectivism, feel-good naive narratives, moral imperatives along the same lines

"feel-good naive narratives". Haven't heard that one before. I really like it. Sums it all up

It probably didnt even start maliciously, its just really fucking easy to be an academic who makes a 10 minute exposition on how we should be nice and you get a standing ovation for it

Once people like that get leadership they enforce low standards lest people force them to face they are full of shit

And eventually they lie to others so well they convince themselves

Now theyre all enlightened savior complex who are saving the world from its heartless self

Our newspapers has "Breaking news" every time Greta sneezes.

Apparently, she is jesus h. christ

New generations being young and eager to stand for something cool love it. You get to be the "good" guy while calling the system shit. Even if youre the system

Which scandinavian country are you in?

I like how theres a Trump discord server 😂

I am actually surprised the powers that be allowed r/T_D to go on so long. The system doesn’t like it when people curate their own news and see through all the bullshit

@Kekistani American Norway

Ah, not the worst :P

Good luck there though

We don't have bombings :p

Lots of work to do

Fucking commie scum

So if the .win links on t_d right now have like 9000 upvotes why isn't that being translated to upvotes on .win

Thanks, yeah it's a wavy ride that's for sure. Don't know where we'll end up in ten years time, but as long as it's not like sweden...

That post advert for mods made me so ill at work

Like it or not t_d was way more populated than .win

It will be more difficult to redpill normies

This is what we get for not organizing physically

We do. Trump rallies. Other platforms. OANN

I wonder what the tipping point will be

I’m talking about in their faces not with our POTUS

well I did always say people were too complacent

no forum means people have to meet physically or not at all

Those exist too. But to reach people you have to contend with ultra liberal cities

Theres a pretty stark geographical divide

When the extreme left pushed the center and center right out of their platforms our only platforms left are dark web and those we must share with the extreme right which is fine by me but not fine with a lot of moderates they’d rather take it in the ass by the leftists

If youre talking about actual edgelords, thats not right wing anyway.

we outnumber edgelords lmao

Naw shit like actual anti Semitic and real racism but that’s freedom of thought expression and speech

The left pushed successfully that racism is right wing - its not

The left just does it with reverse psychology and gets away with it

See it’s not colored people

It’s PEOPLE OF COLOR

fucking LOL

Id rather strike out on my own than be lumped together with the edgelords frankly

Its not that we cant share free platforms

But as far as a dedicated forum goes

Trump won by not dividing us

Don’t forget that

Can you explain exactly what the site did today? Put their own people in as mods of TD?

reddit admins are taking apps for T_D mods

They removed some mods, warned users for upvoting shit they dont like, and forced us to accept mods they choose for us

because they removed a bunch that T_D picked themselves

I don't care what people lump me in with personally

basically reddit thought police

Oh I see, they are inserting their own leadership

And also now we are locked from posting if not approved

I know what I am and how I think, what I stand for

it's a hostile takeover

Well from their standpoint, Bloomberg is out there giving away $100s of million in advertising dollars, they probably want a slice of that and see this as two birds with one stone

We ban leftists on t_d or .win, cause the specific purpose is trump support. Same for edgelords?

I dont care if the platform has them just the forum

This is a real problem because slowly MSM has clawed back attention from many of the far more truthful (depending on your perspective) alternative media outlets

Now my personal options are 1) exert more effort into figuring out ‘real’ news or 2) consume the MSM nonsense and not believe any of it anyway

Option 1

Use primary sources

Watch events/speeches/hearings, read transcripts/bills

It is even hard finding videos I want to watch on YT now

Go to .gov or public broadcast of govt functions

I search for something even close to news related and every suggested video is worthless MSM videos with no primary info

As of now, congress still documents its legislation

And the presidents every move is recorded somewhere in its whole

The old days of TD where the comments had real discussion were super helpful - All the facts with links you needed, videos, discussion, debate

As for administrative state and agencies, HA. corrupt mess

Unaccountable and inaccessible what they do

Ill love trump forever just for auditing the DoD

Audit everything

Negotiate new govt contracts yourself if you have to

Just in case any reddit admins didnt get vetted I’ll address you here: fuck you reddit, leave our free speech alone. We have done nothing but be optimistic about political change.

In my opinion, peak TD was the 100 days or whatever it was of Wikileaks document dumps. Those comment threads were unbelievable

Also white names get vetted

I tried, no reply

Lurkers can not get vetted

how can I prove that I lurked since the beginning

I have 0 social media and never posted, just subbed

I got 3 years of shared memes in my discord history

I was so early in TD that I was originally in the the one without the underscore

I have a maga hat near me right now, ill send a selfie lmao

lmao

That works

Do that

hold up let me see if I can get vetted real quick

Roger that, if the mod gets back to me ill suggest it

Or should i try another one

Are there specific mods to message to get vetted?

I used the one named in the pinned link

Sharksgrill

Hasnt replied yet

Has t_d been fully restricted? No new threads in 2 hours