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stonks!
thanks @Knordox
No problem
Hell yeah
So we don't flood main
ya man
i felt like i was spamming in there
@Vin_Farren btw, if you're interested in trading the futures without those huge margin requirements, look at https://ninjatrader.com/blog/trade-futures-with-less-capital-micro-e-mini-futures/. that's a very popular broker for day trading, and they use a good software afaik
you only need $500 of margin plus whatever you need for the actual trade
Ooh thank yiu
You?
i'm stuck at TDA. it's a company policy thing. i may violate the policy in the future, but i don't need to yet
and btw, when you're getting your feet wet, you can do it in the e-micros. that's what i'm going to do. only downside is that there's less liquidity
someday, that'll likely change though
just checked charts. e-micros have about 1/3 the daily volume of e-minis, but we're still talking like 1m vs 3m
sometimes 2m vs 4m
and sometimes 1.7m vs 5m
looking back historically over the last year, this volume is due to corona. typical trading volumes for both instruments are about 1/4-1/3 less
@Vin_Farren also, i totally misunderstood how trading them works. the price is NOT 2800'ish
the price is whatever margin the broker makes you pay to "promise" you have enough money to do the trading
on TDA, to trade e-mini, you need 13.2k per contract. on ninjatrader, you need 500 bucks
TDA has a 2.25 commission on trading futures plus exch fees. NT has 2.54 all-in for mini and 61 cents for micros
damn. welp, i'm gonna get started on the NT account so i can move futures trading off TDA soon'ish
anyway, gn
gl on your trading!
still testing out my strategies. i traded against Delta stonk today. i put up $238 of capital and set my risk/reward to 1:1 with a 25 cent move on 10 shares. when prices finally reached my LMT, i ended up profit 3.19 for the day. not a lot, but i'm just testing the entry/exit strategy and not looking yet at the good movers
I'm up $900 and I'm waiting for that sweet after hours
nice.
i went ahead and bought ninjatrader software for all brokers, and i applied for a futures account with one of their partners.
NT will hook up to my existing TDA and oanda accounts and my new futures brokers
don't know exactly which day of the week i'll finally be able to trade futures
Goddamn oil looks mighty good to get in rn
ha, ya
negative money!
Crude oil is fucking tanking
ya
it was negative money yesterday. no idea what it's doing today
freakin' taking forever before i get approved for futures markets so..
Gold ETFs like PERTH are the move
which way
it's taking forever to get ninjatrader working b/c i'm still waiting for approvals from TDA and another FCM for futures trading. and until the secondary FCM approves me, i can't even get NT connected to my FX broker... kinda intertwined there
so for now: continuing to use TOS for stock trading. moved to my big system where i can have two views of the instrument open at once, along with a signal indicator, in case i want to use it
i was also just running out of memory with my laptop. gonna have to up my game once i make my money back on the software
For gold im waiting for it to drop then buying up more and enjoying the ride. Bought up a bunch before the dow began crashing because I thought it was gonna happen eventually and inflation would skyrocket.
Looks like I wasnt wrong
For AAAU I have my a small buy at 16.65 a medium buy at 16.50 and a large buy at 16.30. I don't have plans to sell any time soon
ah
i bought gold back in late 2014, iirc
i've still got it
i thought i had applied to futures trading through TDA, but i don't think i did after reviewing my acct. hmm
well, applied now! aaaaand i'm out. gn all!
btw, i don't think inflation will skyrocket
anyway, gn!
Inflation will depend on if they pay back the trillions they made appear out of thin air. If they do then we are fine, but if not then we gonna have problems
are you referring to QE? the thing about QE is that it does not enter the marketplace very easily
so the velocity of money can't take effect easily
i personally think the stock market is going to continue tanking throughout may, but i don't know exactly how much. i want to get into a long position with 100 shares of VOO (vanguard total stock market ETF).
since i'm thinking it'll go down, i just sold a cash-secured put at 225 strike (VOO is at 257.30 right now) so that if it goes down and i get assigned, i'll get an extra 2.05 per share as a discount
anyone trading stonks today? i practiced on the futures market last night using paper money (fake money but realtime data) and made like $875 using the strategy and setups i'm planning to take). but the FCM needs approval from my company since i work for a prop shop. should be okay, but now i've gotta talk to compliance
i "got" that money in like 30-45 mins of work
I bought some options
That's about it, made a few hundreds
I put in for my long term strat so I'm looking at a 60k gain
60k on what kind of trade?
i'm expecting my daily gains to be much lower when i finally get access to the markets. but over 2-3 months, i'm hoping to look at a number like that... probably not immediately, since i won't put up much capital until i'm confident with my strategy in the real markets
A mix of contrats and regular stock
If all goes welp
Well*
ah, cool. speculation?
my speculation is that s&p is going down in the next couple months and so i sold a cash-secured put
since i really want to be in the market but want to get a discount
More of they have their earnings call on the 13th and the contract runs till the 15th, and there a staple now in coronavirus test kits so earnings should be very good
maybe. contracts expiring 2 days after will have a massive theta decay
people might be a lot less interested in them so close to expiration
That's why mine will be turning into shares well before
It's worked before so hopefully it will again
Jokes on all of you Iโm going to join the CIA and run the drug trade in the name of USA
Ok have fun with that kid
If I can get a 50k to 80k profit from this imma start a business
On a serious note Iโm thinking of buying stocks but I canโt decide what companies
You dont have to be 18 for it?
Not that Iโm aware of.
Pretty sure you have to be cause you gotta file it with your taxes
I already have to do taxes bc Iโm sorta a dependent but w/ my income it puts us above something that makes me have to do taxes. It has to do with my familyโs total income
@Vin_Farren well, if it's worked before, maybe later you could explain it to me? if there's a solid profit-making idea that is high probability of winning, i'd love to hear it and keep it in my book of things to try
you do have to be 18 to trade stocks... UNLESS it's with a guardian account, i believe
so if your parents setup an account for you, i think you can trade
Well looks like Iโm a criminal
how did you get approval? you have to be 18 to enter contracts
unless, of course, you have parental approval
Idk. I put my info in there- dob name anb ig my gramps did so the approval
is it an off-shore broker?
because if it is, i could believe maybe they let you skirt around that
" anb ig my gramps did" <== i didn't understand this part?
My grandfather did the approval according to my acc
ah ok. so you did get guardian approval
that makes more sense then
Yeah apparently. I donโt remember doing that tho
so yeah, all above board. if you make money, now you get to fill out taxes for yourself
welcome to adulting!
I just made ab 30$ on Snapchat stocks
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