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Keep it clean.
***RARE PAUL POST***
Isn't it past Gen X's bedtime?
At least I can read an analog clock.
Feels bad man
Don't spam images, don't tag everyone.
Thoughts on this hot take?
You goys are all up past your bedtime.
Good morning, goys!
I woke up at 6:00am, I feel like a dindu
If you woke up at 0600 you dindunuffin wrong man
Good morning famalam
I slept in like a lazy poc
Got up at 8
Same lol; but I’m stuck wagecucking all day.
20 pushups now Arcloop
Will need to wait until I'm in the office, lol. I'm not pulling this truck over to do pushups
Why the fuck not, good optics imo
"Sorry officer some guy in this nationalist group Im a member of told me to do pushups so... here I am"
A real nilla wakes up before 7:00AM on the weekend
The real woke pill is not going to sleep on friday and powering through saturday
The absolute madman
Nah dude, waking up at eight am because you drank too many IPAs the night before and have to shit is the final woke pill
IPA’s were my go-to “sleepin’ juice” but it would leave me with a light hangover all day. Ive been taking a liking to becks recently. Feelsgoodman
Arrogant Bastard Ale.
IPA is worse than soy boys
Ever wonder why craft beer faggots have man tits
Drink bourbon fagts, it's healthy for you
@Victor MD I've been waking up with a couple swigs of Four Roses single barrel for the past couple weeks.
That needs to be turned into a SIEGEpoast
Cruz confirmed a jew.
He has that Ben Shapiro-esque rat face. He's definitely of semetic origin. Kinda feel this way because the media isnt pushing race at all.
There's chats where he admits to having a jewish mom.
Never take SSRIs while jewish fam.
He also seemed sympathetic to some of our points of view so. . . There's that.
hey hey! ho ho! Hebrew supremacy has got to go!
He's got like a smallish skull. I'm sure there's some kind of genetic abnormality. I mean besides being jewish.
It's almost like they've done this before...
Looking at porn is cheating, 'cause you're all married to the cause.
Hey, guys with networks formed. Set up fight clubs with your guys and get me some pics of it. Instagram digs action shots.
Like how is that fake?
Dudes been takinng too much SuperMale Vitality™ and Brain Force™
Fucking vodka for lunch, solid decision imo.
Closing in on 1k guys.
Clearly the CIA produced that video.
Don't stop reminding shitlibs that Cruz was
1. A Jew
2. Raised by spics
They'll first question his Jewishness, then divert to his rearing after you prove he's Jewish.
Yeah, but the conversation will ultimately devolve into how being white is bad and firearms are bad. It always ends in a recursive loop of bullshit.
I've noticed that the news isn't making a big deal about his race, probably because they don't want people to find out he's a Jew.
CNN is mostly "muh AR-15s."
Fortunately that ship has sailed. They can tax ammunition into oblivion but there is enough floating around that it won't matter much.
All the guns are here to stay, really for the foreseeable future. It's great that the judenpresse keeps focusing only on this every time, because it's such a hopeless political battle.
That it is.
Anti-gun autism has always been great for us. Bring moar of it.
Better late than never lol
Nickolas Cruz is a sobering reminder that raising mixed race children to be normal is a doomed proposition.
We need sperg control in our movement. I think a Cruz type character being able to fit into our thing would be very hard, but we need to really watch for these guys, and distance ourselves from them. It's hard, because they're going to claim to be one of us regardless of what we do.
Sorry for all the commas, btw. I really need to cut that out.
Just watch out for the AWD types and anyone who seems to want a ‘battle’ or is looking for conflict
This is a cultural struggle, not an armed one.
If someone doesn't understand that to be the current paradigm, they aren't welcome.
It's also just the way these things are fought and won. Real revolutions never, ever start with armed conflict. It's stupid to expect that.
I think us and Ie are pretty good interns of not having many spergs
Va and twp, that's a different storry.
We win the hearts and minds first. Then, whatever happens, happens. It's out of our hands at that point.
Does the nat soc message attract more spergs? I think there's a correlation.
I don't think it does
Starting a guerilla war in which you plan to hide amongst the people is a plan that's dead on arrival if you've got no people that actually support or are neutral to your message in the general populace. Not saying that's our plan, but it's the plan of others.
There definitely is a correlation, not saying it tarnishes the actual quality of NatSoc itself, but those that are drawn in veer too often to making it some type of esoteric religion where Hitler is a god, his generals are saints, and all the soldiers are martyrs.
Beyond that, wanting to cookie-cutter/copy-paste a long deposed regime onto another continent in a new century, is another plan that's a non-starter, and one that's shared by a significant portion of the community.
I think honesty really is key. I would never join a movement that's secretly something else. Stealth is sometimes needed to get the job done, but I want to work with people who are what they say they are.
You counter signal too hard sime times @Thomas Ryan
That being said, German NatSoc won't work in the states. We will build something similar, but our own and relevant to us.
What did I say that you found disagreement with?
That said, I'm not against nat soc per se. I actually have no political affiliation. Whatever helps my people most is the thing that I want.
The deification of Hitler is not the norm with NatSoc types by my understanding. Esoteric hitlerism is very fringe.
But, edgelords and spergs are attracted to it for the wrong reasons.
Openly National Socialist organizations are somewhat of the fringe themselves, for better or worse, and the esotericists always seem to be the loudest and thus most able to veer the message of the group and all that, and when they can't and I shut that stuff down in the past, they freaked out and started splinter groups that amounted to little more than Let's-Hate-Thomas fan clubs, which then made even more noise.
@arcloop This is all I'm saying. Nat soc is fine in moderation, but that message does disproportionately attract the wrong people.
Then it sorts itself out
I never conducted a formal poll through all the autistic screeching, but the overall emanating vibe was that. The groups never lasted very long because they were based on resentment and negativity.
American Fascism is the future.
NatSoc can be a good source of inspiration and legend. We need our myths and legends.
I'm gonna get dog-piled here, but America has always been a pretty small govt place. I see some libertarian/fascist hybrid as the way forward.
A Hoppe type covenant society.
Nah man. Small gov is a myth.
Look at all of the people arguing for how gov needs to solve problems. They don't believe in small gov. They believe that gov shouldn't hinder them. Big difference.
Governments had very little power in the way that we think of it before the 20th century. Totalitarianism isn't possible without modern technology. Jacques Ellul wrote a lot about this. I want a return to the limited governance, medieval system of aristocracy and large local control.
Fascism, as I understand it, is like a highly technologized managerial state. I just see it as something inorganic.
American Fascism would very likely be less authoritarian than its European counterparts, but there is a spirit of a national collective that would supplement the centralization of powers in an ideal nation state. People want small govt because they fear oppression and tyranny, and righly so, but the true way to solve such a possibility is to create a system which holds a revolutionary synthesis of the nation and the state as a chief component.
Tyranny occurs when the interests of the State diverge or eclipse those of the nation, but when everything is within the State, nothing is outside the State, and nothing stands against the State, there are no ways in which one entity could oppress the other, because there is merely one national, organic, and cohesive being.
Fascism, in general, is not bound by time or technology as a philosophy. It has existed, in one form or another, as long as humanity, but only more recently been given a name, and political interpretation.
It is supremely organic in that it organizes a nation not by means of artificial voting blocks, or materialistic classes, but by families, communities, and heritage, all of which are bound firmly to our natural state.
@Thomas Ryan I think all of that makes sense. I'm just a big fan of English common law, minus all the Enlightenment baggage. I believe in less government, but strong government, if that makes sense.
I think we want the same things: A return to traditional European governance that puts God, crown, State, and people into their appropriate hierarchies.
Got the new wired
I think the prime difference between Fascism and other systems is that there is not an end goal that resembles an "End of History" scenario in which everything is in balance and the storybook closes. The Fascist philosophy holds struggle as a non-tangential component of life, and seeks to create a system that is both sturdy, and dynamic as a result.
Here is where elements of Futurism come in, in my opinion, that humanity is not a static mass to be brought to an equilibrium, but a roaring force to be forged into something which can truly progress by means of a united, civilizational force of will.
I've always thought of fascism, at least the way Hitler and Mussolini practiced it, as being a highly technical micro-managed form of governance in line with the managerial ideas of the corporate state that guys like Henry Ford advocated for. I'm saying that's a corrupted 20th century way of organizing the State and I want something more intuitive, less technoligized.
Fascism is a spook. Fascists view the State as the end-all-be-all, the one and only sovereign entity. Sovereignty comes from the Nation, it doesn’t organically arise from the State. Authoritarianism is needed to abruptly end the destruction of the Nation and to rebuild it, but eventually returning to early-form American federal republicanism is a worthy goal.
*Read Madison, not Mason*
Think of an organic nation state like your own body. You are not one being, in a way, you are million and millions of cells which have all found their rightful purpose and place, whether it's the neurons in your head, or the cells in the soles of your feet, every single flickering ember of life is working tirelessly for the survival of the collective. They are not all the same, they are not all doing the same things, but they are all unique in their functions and necessity.
When a nation has those individuals that act in their own interests alone, and seek to grow and amass resources as a means of growth as an end-strategy, you end up with a tumor.
@Fash Gordon UT The windows of time in which we could see the various implementations of Fascism were short, and the governments in place were formed as a result of a revolution, and then soon flung into a war for survival. The governments of Liberal Democracies were similarly authoritarian in that state, and they did not have to expend the effort to create a new political system, merely to enforce the norm.
@Kek Not sure if you knew, but this is a Fascist org you're in. You're conception of authority leading to tyranny absolutely seems to be something that my previous statement about the synthesis between the nation and the state would answer.
@FASHRABBIT This guy needs to be reminded of why we wear the mask.
@Thomas Ryan I think it's hard to say how fascism in the 20th century would have played out because of this, and I think it's WAY more positive than the NWO system we have now. But is the technologized, managerial state of fascism the BEST system? I have my criticisms.
If I take off that mask, will you die?
I'm not sure what parts of what I have said have alluded to a technologized, managerial state. You seem to have an exclusively negative interpretation of some of what I have said.
I know it’s a fascist organization and I’m fine with using fascism as a tool to revive the nation state, but I don’t think it should be the end goal. Republicanism can function fine in a homogenous patriarchal nation state, as it did in the US for the first 175 years
> thinking republicanism was successful
@Thomas Ryan I think we want the same things, but we may define fascism differently. Is that fair to say?
@Kek Welcome to the organization you joined
The organization that labels itself *American Fascists*
American Fascism, seen through a revolution and a period of change and implementation of new systems, will likely settle into a highly restrictive form of Republic with a voting class chosen not by wealth or by equality, but by a certain set of metrics which judge one's sacrifice to society as a greater whole. All great civilizations thrive off of the backs of one sacrificing for many. If that willingness is not present, it's game over.
Y'all bought your kekistan flags yet?
Meh to republics
@Fash Gordon UT I think it's fair to say that one of us may have a definition of Fascism that is a little closer to the mark than the other.
I think it would have been very interesting to see how the Italians, Germans, Romanians and even perhaps the British would have dealt with the exchange of power that happens as the result of the death of a leader, or the end of a period of revolution and war, but sadly we did not get to see their solutions on the matter.
Franco, for all his success, could not get his heir to properly carry the torch, which is something a bit unfortunate.
@Thomas Ryan That may be. I'm on board with your ideas, and if that's fascism than c'est la vie. Can you recommend a treatise on fascism that best supports what you're talking about?
C'est la vie, indeed.
Lemme see if I still have my pdf's.
Start there. 3, 2, 1.
100 Questions, then the Doctrine, then Tomorrow We Live.
@Thomas Ryan Thanks. I've had that book recommended to me a lot, so it's high time I've read it. The only book of fascist doctrine that I've looked into is Rosenberg's, and there were some things in there that I didn't necessarily agree with.
I feel like the British interpretation of Fascism is likely among the closest that we would see implemented in harmony with America's national spirit, although it is by no means an exact, we share much in the ways of our history of government and laws and all that.
Doctrine of Fascism by Mussolini is a good book on fascism. It provides a very short, boiled down explaination of the core characteristics, it's basically fascism for dummies
Anarcho Tyranny in one photo.
Y'all keeping up with the twp event?
"If I take that off, will you get doxxed?"
@Thomas Ryan that’s the Soldiers and Sailors monument at the center of Boston Common
Boston, gotcha gotcha. Pretty monument. Always double check so we have as few post-delete-postings as possible.
Never saw this. They interviewed Casey about us.
`“[Patriot Front] consider themselves fascists, we’re more of an identitarian organization,” Casey said. “Identitarianism is a way of looking at things that focuses on identity, and of course our identity is white Americans or people of European heritage. Identitarianism doesn’t imply authoritarianism, it doesn’t imply a particular form of government, of economics and so forth, whereas I think fascism and obviously national socialism certainly do.”`
Got a link?
I posted the link, it's right there friendo.
What a snake
The Virgin IE vs the Chad PF
Fascism does imply a form of govt lol.
`Patriot Front did not respond to requests for an interview.`
That’s such an optic move. He’s trying to tell the public that IE are gentle happy souls and aren’t anything like those wicked evil authoritarian fascists at PF
It should’ve been a message of unity
I mean, he's distancing himself, it's not an outright disavowal though, so I'm not really upset. I'm not of the mindset that all similar groups need to be bound at the hip. Eggs and baskets and all that.
We should definitely stick with exclusively using our own media
No platform for ZOG media
They want to talk to us so badly
Rule #1 for not making yourself a fool on national media: don’t talk to the media
Identitarianism is cool, and all; however it’s just an ideal based movement; as opposed to a movement with a solid ideology; ground, and means of accomplishment.
I want to get a collection of screencaps/newspaper clipping of every time they state that we didn't respond to them or hung up on them. They'll decorate my fridge.
@Oliver Yeah, I think it's mostly about just making folks think what Americans, as a unique people, have the right to exist but doesn't quite answer the "Now what?" question as well as others might.
Saying something as simple as, “I like my hamburger well done” can be pushed with a neo Nazi motive; that’s how slimy the media is.
You'd deserve it, should never do that to your burgers.
Are you saying that everyone who likes their hamburgers cooked medium should be GASSED TO DEATH?!
No safe space for charred beef.
Anyone who prefers sirloin over ribeye will be cast into a lake of molten silver
I'm of the hydra mentality
Hydra as in mass leaderless resistance? Too many heads to fight?
Lol, fucking plebs. Gotta eat backstrap.
I could go for a nice haddock dinner
Dozen different organizations working toward the same goal, but with different strategies
Smoked meat nationalism
That way, one strategy fails, two more take it's place
So Rocky you’d be opposed to uniting organizations under one plainly nationalist Party for instance
I think the hydra mentality is one that will bring you to that point, not necessarily carry you over the ridge alone.
No. I just think the last head standing will eat the others
Competition =/= Opposition
Hitler speaks about this in Mein Kampf, vol. 2 chapter 7
I wouldn’t mind offering some sort of “optic consultant” service to the other ‘alt-right’ groups and just go around purging all the autists, skinheads, and degenerates from their ranks
There were different nationalist groups competing for power, but in the end it is better to have a single strong one stand on its own rather than have a coalition of weak ones
True; after all we all have the same desire; just a different means of achieving it.
One thing that’s been bugging me about the possibility of a Nationalist Party taking over in America like the NSDAP did in Germany is that it was the proportional representation in the Reichstag that let the NSDAP grow. In America we’d be fighting First-Past-the-Post, which means we’d have to find a way to break Duverger’s Law that overwhelmingly favors the two dominant parties.
That's not really a possibility, our best bet is to continue to slowly replace the cucks in the GOP
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