all sides have radicals. the important thing is that the majority speaks louder then them

Reminds me of the revolutionary war

all it took was a 1/3rd to quarter minority going out there and radicalizing

and the result was a conflict that resulted in the first ever recorded instance to Europeans of a colony breaking rank from it's overlord

it doesn't matter if they're not a majority

I would say it's a difference of idealism and realism in that case

Forefathers weren't really radicals for the time

Considering the form of government they wished to emulate

I'd say they were

One where they have a say?

One where they're not ruled by a monarchy but instead are a constitutional republic in a world of imperialist empires run by famalies

That was a secondary plan. Had they gotten represented in parliament there would have been no war

hell, we got support from the French King just because he wanted to jab at Britain after the last war between those 2

War was a logical step

It wasnt radical

It is imperative that action take place

A silent majority isnt a majority it is a bystander

the rights and freedoms we wanted, were radical compared to other places of the time

It is only the acting majority that matters

That is why the left is so powerful

you ever heard the one third rule?

you know

that one where your father or mother takes you on your knee

and tells you the reality of life

that often

one third are going to like you

one third are going to DISlike you

and one third aren't going to give the first damn?

it's that way in politics too

one third are truly left

one third are truly right

one third really just don't care

But only the left acts

I, FRANCISCO FRANCO, DISAGREE!

ok hoi4 got to me there

For whatever reason the right likes to be inactive then shit on everyone who does act when they fail

And they wonder why no one acts

there's ways to act that don't involve polarizing mass causality events

however, they're often deemed not enough because of peoples frustration with the status quo and desire to see radical change

I'd think, that in terms of what YOU CAN DO

what YOU CAN ACCOMPLISH

it's important to build up people in support of the rights position

train a next generation, get your kids to understand what's at stake

in other words

be a pillar of the community and family man

that's how you can help the right

pass down the torch, and convert who you can

that way, in the event this does boil over into armed conflict, at least you won't die alone nor be totally ostracized by everyone

you'll have family and friends to give you strength, and that's important

no pillar can stand alone holding up a building, it needs to be part of a community

There wouldnt really be a conflict in America so much as a purge

There would be really nothing anyone can do but ride it out

yeah great

me riding out civil war 2.0 in my Brodie Helmet and Springfield rifle

gonna go War to end all wars on this bitch and dig trenches round the town setting up ant hill positions

ready the chlorine gas

and get those masks ready, AND SHAVE BLOOD WELL SHAVE

i miss the days of bolt action rifles 😦

now everyone wants to use full auto rifles against me

fucking suppression

really off topic but it's amazing to think 2 centuries ago there was muskets and then there came bolt actions revolutionizing ground combat, and now there's fully automatic weapons that spend most their time making the other side keep their head down

there's another thing to consider actually

with how the military has evolved, we have far less men in divisions, far less need of mass charges and massive ground warfare campaigns

this is going to make occupation hard for the military

because if a lot of the populace is rowdy, protesting, and MPs are required to keep the peace

they're going to be spread thin

It's more common to see Brigade sized units than it is full divisions anymore

Mechanization played a roll in that

Once we started mass producing IFV's, APC's, tanks and really phasing out the horse cavalry and foot components, the military required less men and instead more training.

if you go into Moscow type warfare, where the Germans had to go street by street

then poorly trained militias actually have the advantage if it's nationwide rebellions

because our own forces, while very trained and well equipped, take a lot of time and money as a result to be sent to the front

and when there, it'll be hard to get reinforcements in a civil war situation with possible insurgents on all the major supply routes

the U.S. military relies on it's logistic capability to accomplish what it does around the world

without that advantage due to the conditions, this is a war that'll last longer than a purge

and make the Syrian civil war look rather tame in comparison

War is logistics

the Germans didn't have the gas to blitz moscow, after having to go as far as they did into poor infrastructure russian lands

most of their motorized supply units broke down in the first six months

being irreplaceable

supplies took longer to get where needed, and the Russians blew up the caucaus oil fields

costing the Germans the needed resources to sustain a mechanized/armor thrust

in a civil war situation, depending on the organization and how widespread the rebellions are

the U.S. Military is likely to find itself in similar dilemma

and that there, is where it will fall apart

we've seen Afghanistan

In this sorta scenario, the technology difference doesn't matter

The Taliban owns over half of Afghanistan and government forces have lost entire cities to the insurgents in recent months

and that's with U.S. military support

The only way to win against people like that is old tactics

Roman tactics

enslave the people, salt the fields, burn the towns, poison the wells

but no one has the gall to do something like that

so as a result, the war is unwinnable

The Italians started using old Roman tactics like that in their Libya campaign

after over 20 years of occupation since the Great War

they'd been facing Islamic insurgents

but it wasn't until they started making examples of the locals, throwing them in camps, destroying their food supplies, and using gas attacks, cutting off supply routes that they actually made progress and caught the rebel leadership

Unfortunately, that's war.

Sometimes to win, you really do have to be a cold hearted bastard to actually achieve your goals.

And I'm gonna be honest.

Those boys and girls in the United States Military don't have what it takes to take measures like that against their own people.

Nor really should they, given it IS their own people. But to defeat sustained rebellions that go on for decades. Sometimes it's the only way.

No sex in 2 months. Copper pipe filled with petroleum jelly looking good

https://youtu.be/AzUJ-2xfmsk

That is actually moderately hardcore

90m in 6min though I have no clue how hard that it but it's easily beast for a woman

The first chick is actually a Tibetan

90m would take me like 2 min I think

The normal low ropes are only like 7m right?

But those are also bigger ropes

does anyone still take Jordan Peterson seriously

What’s Peterson done now?

Nothing recently.

I was very disappointed in his Brett Kavanaugh statements.

he’s an establishment gatekeeper

only appeals to lolbertarian brainlets who watch feminist rekt compilations all day

What were his Kavanaugh statements?

"Oh no U guys I was let down by someone I agreed with until I stopped agreeing with him the world is crazy now I don't even know anymore"

He said Brett should reject his nomination just because of the controversy around his nomination.

lol you act like it hurt my feelings or something 🤣

Jordan Peterson is like that uncle you go to for advise

You take what he says, mull it over, analyze it, apply what makes sense.

anti-satellite ops? Either way my dick is hard

https://thenewsrep.com/115098/russia-and-china-war-simulations-show-american-defenses-could-fold-in-a-large-scale-conflict/

Good thing neither of them have threatened to fight us outside of their own territory

Apparently the fights stop the second command and control is disabled

You know

That thing that the military is trained to disregard if needed and follow prior orders

and you kinda don't need to follow orders if your leader acts like a daft cunt.

The point is the war games stops if link to generals were cut

Shit half the goddamn time we wouldn't even listen to Captains

It will be E7 and 6s running the show while the lieutenants desperately try and keep everyone resupplied

This is nothing new

Wargames throughout the latter half of the 20th century always projected NATO lasting like 6 hours

We need our war heroes from WW2 back

And mandatory 2 year service for all males.

A draft into the national guard would be nice. Doesn't interfere with civilian commerce too much, or their own lives, but gives us a huge body of trained soldiers

I mean
I'm betting NG is about as well-trained as conscripts

NG are conscripts.

it would also inspire national pride and stability.

NG are all volunteer

But it should be conscripts

It varies from unit to unit. A lot of combat arms in the NG are really good but they work jobs that keep them that way. Firefighters, EMS, cops, security etc

NG Special Forces are just as good as any

Guys

Please convince me of the existance of God.

However, you cannot quote the Bible or mention it once.

I mean this for real, like reasons that made you believe in Him

Please convince me that George Washington existed and was the first United States President. However, you cannot quote any historical documents that mention his existence (the constitution, Declaration of Independence, or any journals/letters). You can’t use any existence of artwork that is supposedly of him either (paintings, statues, etc.). See how stupid that sounds? Fuck off with that bullshit.

It is an honest question, tbh

The Bible is a compilation of books written by men. Many other books were left out. So the Bible can be, and is, biased

I am just looking for an alternative source of proof

LOL

"I'm looking for an alternative source of proof but you can't use everything we already know"

prove to me the earth is round

you can't use any scientific evidence provided by NASA

My point is that I cannot consider the Bible as a legitimate source of proof

So, let me rephrase

Why is the Bible a legitimate source?

it's a historical document

a massive, cross-referenced historical document

you literally can't have anything better

What about the fact that God acts like two different characters in the Old and New Testament?

I honestly am searching for answers

new covenant

Ok, lemme Google that and search for a big

*bit

as in

Jesus brought us the new covenant

honestly tho if you insist on being skeptical about it you'll never find God, because you need faith

no "proof" will ever be good enough

He's trying to ask an honest question so let's not be hard on the guy

From my denominational perspective the Church is older than some parts of the Bible anyway

Here is my argument to you @Deleted User

Nothing in existence is self created. You cannot be your own father

Therefore everything that exists, is created, by something that logically must have existed prior.

So God created the Universe. That I can agree and believe

That puts us in an infinitely backwards timeline with no beginning

But everything has a beginning

Cross references of the Bible. https://philosophadam.wordpress.com/2018/05/16/the-first-hyperlinked-text-the-bible-and-its-63779-cross-references/

So, the only logical explanation for how anything can exist, is that some being must have existed before everything else

This doesn't tell you WHICH god of course

And the only way this can work is to accept that if a being can create all existence, then that being must be above any laws of nature, time, physics, etc and powerful far beyond human understanding

That is the only way the universe can exist. It cannot create itself.

As far as NT vs OT... remember the NT covers a very short time period.

The OT covers literally thousands of years of history

If God gets really pissed off say once every hundred years...then you might see his anger 10, 15, 20 times or more in the OT, but never in the NT

I’d count Jesus flipping tables and whipping people as God getting angry.

Yeah fair enough

But I was thinking of destruction of entire countries

Ah. Right.

And considering the redpill prescription you have Sagif, one pill 3x a day, then God ordering the mass slaughter of sand nigga pagans should not bother you anyway

I'm not one to second-guess the Man but maybe we should have done it one more time

Or maybe we were supposed to. But people don't listen

I believe I remember God commanding the Hebes to kill some people and destroy some shit and they spared a few and it didn't end well for them

🤷🏼‍♂️ I think we keep doing what the Hebrews did... told to conquer and remove the heathens, but instead we decide to kill a few then invite the survivors in our homes and breed with them.

Yup

Like in Joshua I think it is.

God wanted the Jews to have their own distinct and separate culture. Set them apart from the rest. Hence the 617 Mosaic Laws. And every time they bring in a pagan, it watered down their culture just a little bit

A drop of water in the Kool Aid

Yeah exactly.

You start with some sweet nigga red Kool Aid

Then you end up eventually with some slightly pink water with no taste

Worse than the water by itself

We have water, and we have Kool Aid, but if you throw that shit together we don't even have a name for it. It's just nothing. And you dump it in the sink because it's worthless.

On your asking for the Bible as a legitimate source... Historians rate the legitimacy of ancient sources based on how many “original” copies exist. All we know about the Ancient Greek philosophers and mathematicians is from less than 10 documents. There’s a few instances where we only have a single historical reference, yet we just accept that these people and their work exists/existed.

We have over 1,000 original copies of the Bible.

And they all remain over 90% the same.

who tries to find the true meaning of life on a meme discord

Yes

We been doing that since it started my man 😉😁

@Deleted User I am starting to believe in God. I was a stout atheist.

Christ is the only way. It is the only religion and doctrine that preaches that a God loves us. Imagine that, pathetic, weak beings being treasured by a God above all else.

Every other religion preaches a message of obedience. Of war. Or is polytheistic and derives from paganism.

Logos

There is historical evidence that Christ existed. They have even found his tomb, and it was empty.

Jesus was a righteous jew though

Another piece of evidence is that the gospel teaches that Abraham, and his descendants rose from their graves and many people saw them.

They then transcended to Heaven.

The cave of patriarchs is also empty.

And the talmudic Jews lost 75% of their people to conversion after Christ

Until the day of Christ, the Jews were God's chosen people. Chosen to make a covenant with God, to obey the 617 Mosaic laws in exchange for Israel and special protections. A covenant they broke a million times.

And with the fulfillment of the law in Christ, all Christians became God's chosen people. Not the Jews.

And their book, the Torah, even tells all the times they screwed up.

The Jews lost their special status

What happens to all the non jews?

Israel? Palestine? Or how about the Kingdom of Jerusalem?<:smugpepe:445634631950139403>

Will they go to hell?

In the OT? No

They were only obligated to the seven laws of Noah

As long as they follow those they are righteous gentiles

Say I was in 2000BC China

But they don't get special stuff

What were rhe 7 laws?

Do not worship idols. Do not curse God. Establish courts for justice. Do not murder. Do not commit sexual immorality. Do not steal. Do not eat animals that are still alive.

They could eat the unclean animals, yeah?

That was forbidden I believe.

Say I kill a pig, and I cook some bacon.

That's okay

But don't cut off a live pig's leg and eat it

What was their sacrifice for sins?

Lambs and stuff

Doves maybe...

The ancient Chinese for example, they basically had the same religion as Abraham

Judaism before Judaism

Or are they covered by Christ?

Would they be set free in Hades/Bossom of Abraham?

Because as long as they were righteous they should be allowed in.

If they followed those laws, then yeah they're good

Following God was pretty easy back then. And we still couldn’t do it 🤷🏼‍♂️🤣

We, as in all humans.