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So, I think it will take a while for his emotional response to die down.
It's just not going to happen over night.
That's like a lot of people. They've been brainwashed their whole lives to believe Hitler was evil, it's hard for them to accept that he was right.
@Tedium be prepared to lose this friend, and in the furure, only invest time in friendships with other nationalists. Saves a lot of grief.
Azz, I don't think that I have to lose this one. I have faith that he can listen to reason. He hasn't shut me down and said he's interested in continuing the conversation.
just be aware that it may happen, that's all.
It's just such a huge topic that it can't be had in just one night.
I know, man. I'm just trying to have faith that it won't
yeah, but if he thinks your ideology is evil, he will likely at some point conclude that you, as an adherent, are evil.
hopefully you can convert him to our ideology, but if you can't, cut ties
Well, he thinks the holocaust was evil. I'm actually making good inroads with everything else.
the holohoax never happened. tho I wish it had
Try weev's R.A.C.E. method
yeah, it does work
I'm reading it.
A question for everyone though.
His final argument was that it didn't matter how many Jews died, but what mattered was that they were in concentration camps at all.
Basically, the Nazis left men, women, and children in camps to die.
If they could not feed them, they should have let them go, etc.
Ask him why they were put there? Bring up the kike revolt of 1918
He'll probably say "oh they were antisemitic"
I brought up various things like that, but his argument boiled down to basically "not all jews."
Some of the Jews may have needed to be there, but too many innocents got lumped in.
Ask him what vetting procedures he would instuitute if every city in America began having suicide bombers blow themselves up all day. Ask him if he'd put them all in camps or if he'd spend forever letting more Americans die every day to guarantee each muzzrat their due process, bc "not all muslims"
But tbh, it sounds to me like you have a lost cause on your hands.
Auschwitz was comfy tbh, and would he rather the germans split up families? Also what azz said
Idk, I wouldn't say that
A friend of mine was shitlib as fuck
We've been friends for 13 years. I'm not letting him go without a fight.
He's not even shitlib
He's trad as fuck on so many things
well, lost cause in terms of convincing him via argumentation. Most ppl come to these things slowly.
He's a blood relative to Nathan Bedford Forrest.
it will get easier as our movement grows more popular
right now normies fear embracing nationalism bc they fear social shaming
He was taking (((psychology classes))). All they need is a sane friend/mentor to plant the seeds of doubt
We talk philosophy every once in a while. He calls me to talk about degeneracy that he sees on the street and said "maybe you're right about all this"
Same with my dad. He basically disowned me after he found out I was an ebil nahtzee
But I'm open about my beliefs and after Tucker had that blm slag on his show he donated to VA
tie people up in a chair and make them listen to all 19 episodes of The Krypto Report. That works 100% of the time. 😉
It was our first conversation about it, so he went to the emotional plea he's been brainwashed with
Lol I'm sure it does
It's not even the politics or degeneracy he has trouble with.
I think it boils down to this
Something that helped redpill me on the JQ was the coincidence detector btw. Make them question themselves and get them to start noticing patterns
His argument would be the same, not all Jews
I need to get past this holocaust hurdle before I move on to anything else.
show him some of joe rizoli's vids
I've actually never seen a joe rizoli video
Holocaust was never my strong suit
Those Holocaust 101 videos are cool.
yeah, Rizoli knows his stuff
actually it's two of them. they're brothers.
not sure if twins, but they could be
I'm redpilling a kid right now and it's going smoothly, I started off by telling him about Patton and everything he said then showing him white genocide stuff and how the soviets faked war crimes and doctored images to pin it on the Germans
I sent him that video of the Ukrainian old lady defending the Germans from ww2 and he responded well and said "I'm surprised it hasn't been taken down"
Also, you can point out that just as the founders of the US can be romanticized, or Ghando, or MLK jr. the inverse is true as well. i.e. Someone can be demonized.
has anyone found a list of sources for tgsnt?
they wouldn't respond on twitter
Eitherway, your friend needs to split apart the demon version from the real man if he wants to discover the truth.
Also, if one accepts that the greatest counter initiative to communism has been Nat. Socialism, then it's no wonder why Nazis have been turned into a caricature of evil.
In contrast: If capitalism was so effective against communism, then it wouldn't have taken root in society today.
I'm working on a guy as well. He's about halfway there
That game requires patience. Breaking that conditioning is chess, it really is
Push too hard they'll freak out. Hard to blame them really, it shatters the world view
The truth is that we live in a consumeristic, jew'd existential hell
Hard thing to face
Dude, it was an immediate and powerful emotional response.
Just completely shut down the conversation.
Yeah I can believe it
It was actually impressive to see.
If it weren't so sad.
My own change only happened because I'm naturally curious and don't believe in taboos
But even for me, my outlook on things became much more bleak. Even those in my life who don't know the depths of my politics picked up on the change
As I say, hard reality to face. I intentionally keep the flame lit by reading fresh outrages in Europe and the US first thing in the am
Anger is fuel
I've been thinking about that.
So much of our movement is negative reactionarianism.
We need to start offering some good, instead of just pointing out the bad.
We do offer good. A homogenized culture with high trust communities, respect for the past, order, meritocracy
And truth. We're surrounded by lies these days
A lot of men especially feel disillusioned. If we're not careful that can turn to depression and apathy
But convert it to anger, we can inspire action. Righteous anger is nothing negative
It doesn't feel like it sometimes.
Maybe we need more inspired action.
How do you mean?
I think we need more unity
Like sibling unity
Absolutely agree there. Any disagreements and beef we have with other right wing groups needs to stay internal
I know some will chew me out for saying that but even Sparta allied with the pedo politicians in Athens to put down Persia
That's a good parable
I'm not saying we condone actions of those on the right that aren't to our standards
Just that we shouldn't use our resources attacking them except in extreme cases
Out of curiosity, what's an extreme case?
What about Agustus Invictus?
Yeah you guys pretty much said it. Oathkeepers is a perfect example
They attacked one of ours
*Sort of* one of ours. They attacked us verbally and shouted us down mostly.
But it backfired.
Oathcucks is a pathetic organization.
See the Malhuer Wildlife debacle for the definition of idiocy.
In the end, it came out that a bit over 1/3 of the Patriot occupiers were fed informants.
No coherent message, no tactics. Just cringe.
When you worship the federal government as an ideology it comes to that.
I find it hard to believe that the rank and file gun toting whites in oathcuckers arent more aligned with our views. It actually astonishes me. Even normie cuckservatives dont get that triggered over confederate flags and such, would expect most of their type to fly one on their trucks. At least thats how it is where im from
Well, most are. But, people are good at tricking themselves into believing things for expediency. The Oathcuckers in Houston convinced themselves that we were Notsies!!! so that opposing our flags was ok.
Cops/Feds are the same way. Most are good dudes who got in for the right reasons, but now have to convince themselves that it's ok to repress white organizations.
A lot of their members came up to us after stating how they found more sense with us than their own, but the leadership is far too gone.
The leadership is classic boomer. Muh Judeo-Christian values!! Muh Constitution!! Muh Greatest Generation!!
"I dont care if you're white, black, brown, or purple! As long as you believe in 'Murican freedumb and muh constitooshun, we can all be friends!"
Without whites, there is nothing of note. No constitution, no republic, no environment, no science. But these boomer-cons can't seem to wrap their feeble minds around that.
Don't rule out those who may have taboo ideologies in their hearts
Talking about police and military especially
Ohh I know. I'm just blowing off steam. I imagine we will pick up many disillusioned OK/III types.
We must continue a policy of outreach and not ostracism toward them. Nobody ever won this type of war without infiltrating and subverting the enemy's organizations.
It's how Michael Collins won the war for Ireland's independence in the early 1920s. A sympathetic Irish Constabulary cop (ethnic Irish, working for British police state) gave him access to confidential informant records. Collins slaughtered the CIs, and thus severely hampered the Brit's war effort.
Speaking of which, start running for sheriff
Deputize your friends and hunt niggers nationalism
Michael Collins had a cop assigned to tail him everywhere. The cop heard one too many of young Michael's speeches, and became an Irish Nationalist himself! Whoops!
That's why I offered sunscreen and water to the cops at Houston.
And most trend towards order
My own brother in law is a cop and was just shot by a nigger. Only the vest saved him
He's been taking a lot harder since then
I suspect he's warming up
We have the best interest of these folks in mind, and they're not entirely at fault for where they are. We need to make the path open and easy for when they do decide to come to our side eventually.
After all, our side is the only one which includes them in the long term.
My best friends dad is a cop and one his friends got shot in the head
Also of note is that most police and military picked that career because they wanted to aid their communities or country
That's the foundation of a collectivist fascist mindset
The military guys are already talking about all this and networking amongst one another.
I know so many military fascists
And many that are joining
I know one guy and he has an Italian fasces pin on his kit bag
But yeah you are right on that, fashyness is growing a lot in military circles
And yeah, @Thomas Ryan , I printed off several posters last night and had to choose carefully. Some of your shit really goes after the black cartridge.
Yep they do
Hey man, I'm sorry.
We have more ink friendly ones
Some of them I can just invert, but inverting the "we have a right to exist" doesn't exactly turn out...
I have inverted ones
(make sure to "download original" if you want to print these, they're full size)
You have to invert the background/text but not the figures themselves.
I got a little too zealous with the postering a few weeks back. In short there was an event in town that I knew would bring a ton of out of towners
I printed off 100 and got to work in a parking garage in broad daylight, which was risky but I wanted to grab the opportunity
Moved quickly and things were going fine until the wind on the upper deck of the garage picked up and blew a ton of flyers off the cars and rained a bunch in an adjacent park, tons of people there for a festival
Guys in blue polos showed up and started looking around, I guess they were city workers. Walkies and everything
Caused a stir in the park, checked the news for a few days but nothing sadly
So what are you guys doing
Doing chores around the house and laying on the patio atm
I'm at work
Lunch at work
I'm going through this 16 page article that rips apart almost every aspect of homosexuality that's going to be on the website. Picking some of the best stats and going to toss them on a poster for the 15th. It will be printer friendly, minus a small rainbow for effect.
I'd say it's needed
No, it is not finished yet.
Homos are mentally ill: mathematical proof edition
I laughed pretty hard when George Lincoln Rockwell said in his speech "I'd gas the queers before anyone else"
So did half of the audience frankly
That was good
"Dad, would you kick me out if I was gay?" "Son, I'd kick you out if you suggested that gays are worthy of living"
Alan Turing was a good one. He's responsible for the modern computer, right?
Instead of butchering fags, like a muslim, we just stop media endorsement of fag practices. Or castrate them.
that is a big article
You'll need a shower after you get through it
at least its good data to use against fag sympathizers
We are we going to crash a pride parade?
Anyone know where to get a cheap flag printed?
I'm going to, gotta make a poster linking to it with a QR code
I got it all planned out
>instead of butchering fags...
Flaming fag drag when?
Frag grenades for fag parades
Might have to poster this by that crosswalk in Atlanta
Go for it
Nobody is going to read that
Just a huge block of text
Let's test it out and see what happens
Use the stats but not the smaller text maybe?
That did extremely well and was quite literally just a block of text. Our is much more condensed, and the first thing people see is a rainbow and "78% HAVE STDS"
I test them out on Saturday
What do you think is the most suitable poster to place at my towns civic center? niggers go there to play basketball, white families and white athletes and shit go there to lift/swim etc
Put some out around gay churches
Potential hate crime charge there....
Yeah there are no cameras and I go at night for the whites to see in the morning
I've already scoped the place out
Also I know lots of gays have STDs but is it seriously god damn 78%? what's that number from
Use stats, but make it propaganda
Maybe a poster saying "Suicide by Sodomy" and list ways that being a fag is harmful
Yeah those are some high as fuck numbers too, 1000 or more partners lol
I'm not doing the banner drop. Gotta help my sister move.
Oh, well put some up in Dallas with the DFW goys
@everyone IF YOU ARE GOING TO THE CVILLE EVENT, SEND ME A MESSAGE
Found this piece of work today.