Hi @ChangeNames & @Party on Darth#7777

@April
Welcomes welcome 💗 <:happy:511590629793595403>

Hey

Was hoping to talk about something that's been bugging me for a long time now

What would you like to speak about?

The zombies

The people who aren't real

Whatever they are

It's really been bugging me that no one is talking about this

Where did they come from? What do they want? Do they even know they're different?

What exactly are they

Aliens? Offbreed humans? Halflings? Reptilians?

Illusions?

Clones?

Have you looked into this topic?

Hard to find much of anything on it

Old religions called them hylic

Zombies and aliens are the same ?

🤷

I'm talking about the people who aren't people

The ones in daily life

If you've ever seen the movie "they live" kinda like that

how can we spot these zombies?

Most reliable way is to check for qualia

That's how I discovered them in the first place

Lots have blind allegiance to the MSM narratives

Or just general apathy about things

Just go around and ask people whether they experience qualia and try to determine if they do or not and you'll see what I mean

It's really bugging me

https://youtu.be/Ca3PoCHvAkQ

https://www.facebook.com/fafautomotive/videos/2116560451755373/UzpfSTEwMDA4NzM2NDE6MTAyMTcxMDU0ODIwNDE0NDk/

https://youtu.be/Cjq1ccXV6hE

https://youtu.be/ZPXiqE-BDFQ

https://youtu.be/Odr9Xp_p7mY

Will this server be officially endorsing anybody in the 2020 elections?

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/09/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-228607

@[actually on break now] if the answer ain't andy2020 they wrong

80/20?
Nevermind the year 2020.

wOt

is andrew basiago even sincerely running

like his site is down now

this is crazy https://youtu.be/ufr2p2JW5UA

https://www.newyorker.com/news/news-desk/how-a-private-israeli-intelligence-firm-spied-on-pro-palestinian-activists-in-the-us

Wow

https://youtu.be/S3UOYuVhgEg

i wanna be the very best

Wowcome @Silence @HeroicJkroy

Hello

Hey there! Welcome!

how are you

Ah, pretty good. Hbu?

Im doing okay had an interesting night

🤘

so now that I am here what do I need to know

Hello would anyone like to fill me in on why I have been pushed to join this discord?

Ah damnit i just rewatched the martian a couple days ago

@HeroicJkroy welcome to the server. Mkultra is a conspiracy chat, so youre welcome to debate about anything conspiracy related. Theres usually a debate going on in the voice chat so make sure to join in

Did someone push you into joining?

Yes a group I met through a textting app

Awesome

I would have came much more easily if I had simply been asked to

This is a good server for conspiracy theorists and debators

i see

perhaps i have the wrong discord?

Uh i don't think so

I dont either I can feel the level of attention this group puts off

Yeah.

i dont mean to insult

No that's ok

im just being blunt as i have been getting the run around all morning

Oh i see

What is your point mate

I'm confused

You weren't pushed to join this discord man

hold up

Do you guys not know why I was invited here?

I dont know why

xiy

How am I even supposed to know that

You came here on your own

Wait...

You choose to come here

I am not trying to be rude and i see what you mean im just looking for answers

Uh. Did someone from this server push you into joining?

Someone specifically?

xiy

I cant exactly answer why you choose to come join a conspiracy debate server

Besides you come here on your own

xiyilqa

Im not even getting what you're tryna say. Can you please be a little clearer?

I helped him out with something then he went all cryprtic and started sending me the invite and he would not answer why I was supposed to join

@Xiyilqa

yes him

Oh shit. You FBI?

Bruh

NSA?

no im not

not gov at all

lowes

We dont know anything about what he meant @HeroicJkroy

Or why he did that

hmm

Something about being free

CIA?

what?

Wait

no i di not work for the govenrment in any way

Ok ok

We just have some g-14 classified informstion on this server

I was approached by alessa when I was on reddit then I was "Convinced" to come here Xiy was suppressed or something and one one would tell me why

no one

i mean

Oh

Suppressed?

okay

brb nbathroom break

bathroom

Ok. Ive never talked to xiy beforr

Ah ok

is this server into spiritual stuff?

Yes

Uh. Some people i guess

that is where I came from

And what do you mean by that?

You come from spiritual stuff?

i mean a group sorry

Ah

Well uh. I would argue that this server is mostly a conspiracy debate

oh

what shape is the earth, @HeroicJkroy ?

I would be lead to belive in a few different possibilities

as the mind can surmise a shape of what it sees

oh okay you're cool

Words of wisdom

Ah. I see

and i have not been off the planet

earth

Im convinced many of us have not

if you've seen it you've been in it <:doom:532377533509926912>

I'm here for spiritual discussion @HeroicJkroy

unless we are talking spiritually then I have been many places

and ancient civ / lost high technology chat

Wait @booshibonton you a flat earther?

no, simulation earther

Ah

@MarsBar that is exactly sometheing i am indeed interested in

yep thats exactly the stuff i want to discuss

The forsaken is wat I call them

*what

Ah. Well we've found a good pair

I like other stuff to

wish there would be seperate chat sections on here for topics, thatd be cool

or maybe it's holographic, being projected off a 2D hypersurface or whatever

The Holographic Universe by Michael Talbot

Talbot

or perhaps our bodys are a remote/vessel for our concinouss which we puppet to interact with this layer of reality

sim like

*twerks*

yeh i believe that somewhat heroic

Hm

when we experience psychedelics its also a way of seeing past the confinements of our physical selves

https://youtu.be/0XuPjFF-p0k

we are consciousness experiencing itself in physical form

yes

What if this reality actually simulates an entire life in a couple of seconds but our brain perceives it as much longer, and this is a system made to learn rapidly from getting personal experiences and walking in others shoes to see things from other perspectives?

possible

time is a construct

so that could be

time is not linear anyways

in the physcial expirence it is precived as so

this physical life could be a blimp and just a fragment of what we experience

it is in my belief

So whoever we are in the real world can have a one hour simulation session and wake up having lived 1000 lives and have the wisdom of all those combined experiences.

possible

on the grand scale of the universe, our lives are like 0.00000001 seconds in the time frame

if that makes any sense lol

it does

yet i believe there was a start to creation out of the black pool of material I call the nothing which would indeed be a nig bang/god

I definitely feel like psychedelics is something every individual should have, to see how we are all in fact connected, I think it would make the human race much more progressive and we would advance way faster.

Jerry Wills says he visited Aramu Muru, Peru, knealt at the door to nowhere and was transported outside the universe. he later meets this alien voice thing and it shows him the universe sitting on this pedestal. trippydippy, find his interviews on the youtubes.

I dont think we can actually quite understand the process of how things can exist... It goes against all logic, and this is the big problem.

ill check it out @booshibonton

Science (as of yet) can't understand what consciousness is, it's not even proven that it's generated in our brain. The mind is the least explored of all.

I also believe we have the power to self heal

It's just been forgotten

Wim hof represent niqqa

agree

mars

some do heal and self heal in my expierence

I prefer agency over conciousness as a term

The existence of the universe is mindboggling to a degree that causes insanity, it exists, but how, and why would these things be here instead of not, how are they conceptualized and why are these principles of physics here. Even if conciousness has anything to do with it, again, why does conciousness exist, if there is nothingness, who and what is going to conceptualize anything at all, how is something manifested at all.

interesting choice of word for it

Just like manson said, sanity is a small box inside insanity entirety

Thats some next level shit right there. I definitely believe in a creator of sorts, sacred geometry throughout the world and universe hints at that. Although for something to have created us or consciousness, it would have to have come from intelligent design itself.

the nothing which we came from wishes to retun us to the nothing

Or maybe it's just outside of our realm of understanding haha

>something came from nothing

it was not actual nothing

just a term

I feel like nothing is condescending, more like energy. We are turned from energy into the physical and then our energy is returned to the universe.

Theres no reason to believe the universe had a beginning

i see it as a black pool of matter

or energy

Even if something came from something, where did the first something come from? If you say that it has been here forever and will always be, well, it seems like its entirely void of any meaning.

Its because we are temporal beings that we have finite perceptions, in the grand acheme we are just reincarnations with different perceptions

The physical is a trip of experience, we are only here to learn, discover and explore and try and do our part to make the world better.

That doesnt really mean anything

yeh i believe that @ᛋᛉKLOᚢ

I cant pretend to know past that point

It seems inherently void of any meaning to create a horrible place and then place beings there to try to make it better instead of just not create a flawed system to begin with, or just not create anything at all.

I dont belive that it is at all perfect

When you do psychedelics you realise how insignificant you are as an individual, having an ego death really puts everything into perspective and you suddenly see clearly.

I dont believe such a thing exist

@EzkealSutekh Isn't chaos what created the universe though

If everything was calm, nothing would have reacted

or so the big bang theory claims

Death is a joke

I dont believe in the big bang theory, thats 100% bs

The universe never had a beginning it just always was

Yeh I find it hard to believe most academic theories these days

Theres just too much hidden and covered up

I am not going to pretend to know where this place came from, it is simply beyond the comprehension of primates on earth.

Fact is, no one knows, really, its so obscure and elusive.

Spontaneous creation of the universe from nothing: *"An interesting idea is that the universe could be spontaneously created from nothing, but no rigorous proof has been given. In this paper, we present such a proof based on the analytic solutions of the Wheeler-DeWitt equation (WDWE). Explicit solutions of the WDWE for the special operator ordering factor p=-2 (or 4) show that, once a small true vacuum bubble is created by quantum fluctuations of the metastable false vacuum, it can expand exponentially no matter whether the bubble is closed, flat or open."* - Dongshan He (Central China Normal University, Wuhan), Dongfeng Gao, Qing-yu Cai (Wuhan Institute of Physics and Mathematics, Chinese Academy of Sciences, Beijing) - *<https://arxiv.org/abs/1404.1207>*

I would say that there is creation an a puddle. creation came from the puddle but I do not know where the puddle came from.

It's what we all want to know but most likely will never

so yes i belive the universe could have always existed

I beleive that like us things are created

Maybe not in this manifestation, but remember that we are essentially made from the materials of this universe, so at some point there should be a transition, maybe back to a singularity, where things will be clearer.

born

We can only theorise this stuff, the fact that it interests us so much shows how strong our pull is to the universe

Theres a difference between what ypu call knowing and perception

I dont thing its reasonable to try amd percieve a beginning

well going back to a singularity would go along wit the "Nothing" wanting to take us all back to it

Perceiving a beginning? How can we know if its the beginning of all beginnings and not just the one of infinite? like a fractal? the problem here is our struggle to understand nothingness and infinity. But then again, finite beings trying to understand this is like ants trying to understand calculus, IT WONT HAPPEN.

Lol

We're never going to space and we won't understand the truth for 1000s of years probably more, the human race will probably be dead by then.

Can you stop saying "understand nothingness" lol

Can you stop trying to censor me?

You're not the center of this debate, i am mainly talking with MarsBar.

Ezkeal is right