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2017-11-10 00:30:12 UTC

I don't know jack shit about Islamic scripture, other than that much of it parallels other Abrahamic scripture

2017-11-10 00:30:57 UTC

Oh wait I think I remember something. Iblees was used before his pride took over him, before he became evil
I really don't know enough details about the Bible version of him aside from stuff I've heard here and there such as him being a fallen angel and so on. And I know the Bible has been changed/reworded but that's it

2017-11-10 00:32:42 UTC

Yea, upon a but more reading, it seems that it was at some point in the European medieval age that the word "Lucifer" generally came to be used as the name as the devil prior to his fall from heaven

2017-11-10 00:33:31 UTC

It parallels it cause in the Quran, God says he sent the Torah to the Israelis through Musa (Moses), then the Bible through Issa (Jesus), the son of the virgin Mariam, but every time he sent a book, the people changed it eventually. We believe they were all sent by God through an angel named Jibrael, they're just changed/editted

2017-11-10 00:33:58 UTC

Really? So Christians also used Lucifer as his name before he fell?

2017-11-10 00:35:46 UTC

By some

2017-11-10 00:35:55 UTC

It's kinda used all over the place

2017-11-10 00:36:13 UTC

Depends on the source, I can't get a clear picture

2017-11-10 00:36:23 UTC

I've read some of the Bible but I ought to sit down and read it through

2017-11-10 00:37:47 UTC

Unless you read the King James version, I doubt you'd find much use of the name "Lucifer"

2017-11-10 00:38:36 UTC


2017-11-10 00:39:09 UTC

I was considering KJV

2017-11-10 00:39:26 UTC

Since that's the most common one, or so I've heard

2017-11-10 00:39:32 UTC

Also, it's not explicitly said that the serpent in the Garden of Eden was actually the devil

2017-11-10 00:39:39 UTC

Not in the Bible, at least

2017-11-10 00:39:55 UTC

Oh, we believe it was

2017-11-10 00:39:56 UTC

The New International Version is also a common one

2017-11-10 00:40:02 UTC

Though I'd have to recheck

2017-11-10 00:40:10 UTC

It's basically assumed that the serpent is the devil

2017-11-10 00:40:30 UTC

Who else would be leading God's creations astray

2017-11-10 00:40:43 UTC

How could the devil have been in heaven

2017-11-10 00:40:57 UTC

A preacher will tell you that it's pretty obvious that the serpent was the devil

2017-11-10 00:42:54 UTC

You'd find that a lot of what is taught by Christian theologians is based upon assumptions and inferences made about the text, rather than litteral translation

2017-11-10 00:44:34 UTC

Doesn't that increase inacurracy though?

2017-11-10 00:44:56 UTC

That's a big issue, yes

2017-11-10 00:45:32 UTC

It's one of the reasons why I do not believe in the Bible

2017-11-10 00:46:39 UTC


2017-11-10 00:46:54 UTC

I agree with your standpoint in sticking to morals

2017-11-10 00:47:20 UTC

Most modern Christians do not take the old testament as fact

2017-11-10 00:47:46 UTC

Too much of it contradicts known science and history, and there's just too many contradictions

2017-11-10 00:48:31 UTC

The new testament is less inconsistent, and better follows the beliefs of modern Christianity

2017-11-10 00:50:03 UTC

There's some stuff that breaks science, like Jesus turning water into wine, but it's easier to accept that Jesus can defy the laws of creation from time to time than it is to accept the Creationist belief of how the universe was created based upon the litteral interpretation of genesis

2017-11-10 00:50:51 UTC

When modern science is far more consistent than the old testament

2017-11-10 00:51:04 UTC

That's a lot of contradictions. You know if the bible was never changed from how it was originally revealed, there would have been no need for the Quran, by Muslim beliefs at least

2017-11-10 00:51:35 UTC

I believe his ability to turn water into wine was *supposed* to contradict science, to prove him

2017-11-10 00:52:34 UTC

Along with his other abilities

2017-11-10 00:53:54 UTC

Yeah, as I said

2017-11-10 00:54:46 UTC

If Jesus was God on Earth, or even a prophet who acted on behalf of God, of course he'd be able to violate natural law to prove his divine nature

2017-11-10 00:55:36 UTC

I know a creationist who believes the Earth was formed 5000 years ago. But he also has a masters degree in environmental sciences and he's seen trees that are 6000 years old. I have no comment to that

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2017-11-10 00:55:45 UTC

top kek

2017-11-10 00:56:15 UTC

It sounds like you were going to add a "but"

2017-11-10 00:57:19 UTC

A "but" to what?

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2017-11-10 00:58:29 UTC

"I'm gonna prove my divinity by doing impossible stuff"
*does impossible stuff*

2017-11-10 00:59:49 UTC

I don't believe Jesus and the miracles, but it isn't remotely absurd for someone who does believe in Jesus's divinity to believe that he did those things

2017-11-10 01:00:15 UTC

Oh, I get it

2017-11-10 01:00:26 UTC

It's like believing in Zeus, and then believing that Zeus did actually kill people with lightning

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2017-11-10 01:01:06 UTC

If you believe in the strange, it's not surprising that the strange would do something strange

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2017-11-10 01:01:27 UTC

Yeahh I get that

2017-11-10 01:02:23 UTC

I do like New Testament Christian values, even if I don't believe Jesus was actually some divine being or profit

2017-11-10 01:03:07 UTC

What do you believe he was

2017-11-10 01:04:46 UTC

Some spiritual leader amongst the Jews in the Roman province of Palestine. Some dude who taught good morals, and lived an acetic lifestyle

2017-11-10 01:05:07 UTC

But got crucified because the Romans didn't like the Jews flocking around this guy

2017-11-10 01:06:04 UTC


2017-11-10 01:07:22 UTC

Your beliefs tend to parallel Abrahamic beliefs more or less, but you're not really Christian, Muslim or Jewish

2017-11-10 01:07:49 UTC

I'm somewhere between atheistic and agnostic

2017-11-10 01:08:37 UTC

I find it hard to believe that Jesus was 100% made up, contrary to what a lot of hardcore atheists like to believe

2017-11-10 01:08:50 UTC

A religion doesn't just spawn from nothing

2017-11-10 01:09:25 UTC

Yeah especially of this caliber

2017-11-10 01:10:11 UTC

If you want a religion based on falsehoods, I'd turn to Mormonism or scientology

2017-11-10 01:10:18 UTC

The former is more controversial

2017-11-10 01:10:41 UTC

I don't actually have an issue with the Mormon church itself

2017-11-10 01:10:49 UTC

I could never be a Mormon

2017-11-10 01:10:59 UTC

Nor could I

2017-11-10 01:11:07 UTC

It was founded by a known con-man

2017-11-10 01:12:07 UTC

That I didn't know

2017-11-10 01:12:45 UTC

Why do you say that about scientology though

2017-11-10 01:14:06 UTC

The Holy Book of scientology is litterally a science fiction novel

2017-11-10 01:15:28 UTC

Or so I hear

2017-11-10 01:15:56 UTC

But Scientology is a cult of rich people, not a true religion, in my eyes

2017-11-10 01:16:36 UTC

Well it sounds almost like my favorite religious books of Clopology and Ponyism

2017-11-10 01:16:45 UTC

Okay, the "science fiction" thing is inaccurate

2017-11-10 01:16:57 UTC

More like fake science publication

2017-11-10 01:17:02 UTC

Actually sounds like a NWO thing

2017-11-10 01:18:02 UTC

It attempts to be that, yeah

2017-11-10 01:18:22 UTC

A lot of celebrities are scientologist

2017-11-10 01:18:32 UTC

It's got a significant presence in Hollywood

2017-11-10 01:19:03 UTC

Most notably, the actor Tom Cruise is a scientologist

2017-11-10 01:19:13 UTC

You know I would not be surprised if people start following it just because their favorite celebrities do

2017-11-10 01:19:50 UTC

Whenever someone speaks ill of the church in the media, the church likes to sue

2017-11-10 01:20:26 UTC

The especially like to try suing former members who speak out against the church

2017-11-10 01:20:50 UTC

The Church's income was one of the reasons Marx shamed it so much

2017-11-10 01:21:18 UTC

Well the church I'm referring to wasn't around when Marx was

2017-11-10 01:21:30 UTC

I'm still referring to the church of scientology

2017-11-10 01:21:33 UTC

But yeah

2017-11-10 01:21:42 UTC

Marx had a point

2017-11-10 01:21:52 UTC

I thought you were referring to the Christian church

2017-11-10 01:21:59 UTC

The whole income thing is partly why the protestant reformation occurred

2017-11-10 01:22:28 UTC

Nah, the Christians don't sue when you speak ill of Christianity

2017-11-10 01:22:58 UTC

Yeah but their income comes from charity, doesn't it?

2017-11-10 01:23:42 UTC

Which income

2017-11-10 01:23:51 UTC

Scientology or Christianity

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2017-11-10 01:24:08 UTC

I have no idea how scientology makes money

2017-11-10 01:24:23 UTC

In Marx's time, the churches expected adherents to donate 10% of their income

2017-11-10 01:24:26 UTC

I think

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2017-11-10 01:24:37 UTC

Don't quote me on that

2017-11-10 01:25:01 UTC

Basically they say the Bible says you should give a certian amount to the church

2017-11-10 01:25:14 UTC

It's called a tithe

2017-11-10 01:25:17 UTC

Unspecified amount?

2017-11-10 01:25:23 UTC

I don't know

2017-11-10 01:25:27 UTC

I don't know enough

2017-11-10 01:25:47 UTC

I know the Mormon church says 10%, but only voluntarily

2017-11-10 01:26:05 UTC

And the Mormon church does actually use a lot of that money for charity

2017-11-10 01:26:56 UTC

10% they're heading towards socialism

2017-11-10 01:27:24 UTC

Well it can be argued that Christianity promotes socialism

2017-11-10 01:27:50 UTC

Give according to your means so the church can give charity

2017-11-10 01:28:47 UTC

I can't comment cause I don't know enough

2017-11-10 01:29:17 UTC

There's a story

2017-11-10 01:29:32 UTC

It is only 2.5% for us, according to Muhammad
But I don't believe in a lot of his quotes cause they weren't recorded till 300 years after his death

2017-11-10 01:29:38 UTC

One of the disciples was with Jesus

2017-11-10 01:29:59 UTC

And they saw a rich man donate a decent sum of money to the temple

2017-11-10 01:30:35 UTC

And saw a poor peasant woman donate a tiny amount

2017-11-10 01:31:15 UTC

(I forget how it goes exactly , but I'm doing my best)

2017-11-10 01:31:51 UTC

The disciple says that tje man who donated more is clearly the more moral

2017-11-10 01:32:03 UTC

And Jesus said that the peasant woman was the more moral

2017-11-10 01:32:19 UTC

The rich man donated an inconsequential amount of his wealth

2017-11-10 01:32:28 UTC

He would not miss the money he gave

2017-11-10 01:32:49 UTC

The peasant, who donated far less, had just given up a large portion of her wealth

2017-11-10 01:33:44 UTC

So even though the peasant woman gave a smaller sum, it was worth more for her soul

2017-11-10 01:34:47 UTC

Yeah, I have heard similar stories. The physical(?) worth is not important. What's important how much the worth is relative to the person giving it

2017-11-10 01:34:53 UTC


2017-11-10 01:35:28 UTC

If a rich man gives a poor man $20 bucks, it's not comparable to a poor man giving another poor man $10

2017-11-10 01:35:40 UTC


2017-11-10 01:36:22 UTC

But what if the rich man struggled to get to where he's at, struggled hard, in order to help the poor?
That's why I say morality is very complex, intricate

2017-11-10 01:37:18 UTC

I wonder if he'd get the deeds as if he were a poor man giving another poor man $20

2017-11-14 23:11:16 UTC

Everyboard now belongs to us fascists.

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2017-11-16 14:49:17 UTC

Top 10 Fascist occupations (2017)

2017-11-16 22:38:01 UTC

ูƒุณ ุงู…ูƒ

2017-11-16 22:38:13 UTC

Paki <@182913254547390473>

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Wanted for rape and crossing the border

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2017-11-17 01:56:07 UTC

@King#0601 And stay out, you jihadist son of a goat.

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2017-12-02 19:08:21 UTC

Allahu Akbar

2017-12-03 06:03:22 UTC

Faker al-muslimฤซn!!

2017-12-03 11:40:12 UTC

Inshallah my brothers and sisters Allahu Akbar

2017-12-03 11:40:34 UTC

alekum salam heathen

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we will triumph

2017-12-03 17:34:03 UTC

allah akbar

2017-12-03 17:39:03 UTC

can you please not genocide the armanians again

2017-12-03 17:45:33 UTC

Gas infidels, god willing

2017-12-03 17:45:51 UTC

weren't you about paganism a second ago?

2017-12-03 17:46:27 UTC

delete it then

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Peace be upon the infidels

2017-12-03 17:56:02 UTC

Nvm they just got blown up

2017-12-03 17:56:09 UTC

lmao edgy

2017-12-03 17:56:29 UTC

@KoalaBear plz consider suicide

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2017-12-03 17:58:15 UTC

tell me you're not 14

2017-12-03 18:00:25 UTC

plz no bully my fellow snadnigger

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^ Teritorialec

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2017-12-03 18:01:06 UTC

it screams arabic

2017-12-03 18:02:21 UTC

Allahu Akbar
Allah sinsinaiya
Allah snackbar

2017-12-06 20:46:33 UTC

allahu akbar

2017-12-07 02:28:16 UTC

Salamualaikum habibi

2017-12-07 02:28:28 UTC

Marhaba habibi

2017-12-07 02:28:52 UTC

Marhaba Mars Man

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2017-12-12 21:48:17 UTC

Peace be upon you my brothers and sisters happy Ramadan

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'Mashalla stashala

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Allahu Akbar

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2018-01-02 05:43:49 UTC

Looka like greater israel to me @Deleted User

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2018-01-04 23:23:56 UTC

At least you tried france.

2018-01-13 05:03:03 UTC

Muhammad is a pedophile

2018-01-13 09:21:20 UTC

aloha snackbar

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2018-01-20 18:09:26 UTC

kill the <#313606549543190528>

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2018-02-06 14:30:53 UTC

@Jennie Kim#8538

2018-02-10 04:39:30 UTC

I cant read cursive

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2018-02-13 14:30:10 UTC

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***josefmengeleismydaddy#4673 has been warned.***

2018-02-14 03:03:25 UTC

allahu akbar

2018-02-14 03:46:12 UTC

Why no one speak Arabic

cuz thats gay

2018-02-14 03:46:26 UTC

Hmm.." yes

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2018-02-15 15:44:35 UTC

Hello guys

2018-02-15 15:44:47 UTC

May I ask for tranlation of this?

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2018-02-20 08:46:32 UTC

@everyone kebabs will be removed from the west

2018-02-20 08:46:42 UTC

you may continue to kill urselves in the sand

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2018-02-21 16:03:06 UTC

y'a des tunisiens ici ?

2018-02-21 21:35:47 UTC

Arab men. Not a fan.

2018-02-22 18:41:26 UTC

you are not a fan of what ?

2018-02-23 00:48:13 UTC

Of Arab men


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2018-02-27 10:07:33 UTC

@Deleted User Interesting that you favor Muslims like the ones in ISIS

2018-02-27 10:08:50 UTC

Do you want Hwite Sharia?

2018-02-27 12:23:46 UTC

@Rushack I didn't say anything like that.

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2018-02-28 01:30:51 UTC

You really seemed to have liked that

2018-02-28 02:13:15 UTC

@Deleted User Why did you save that picture?

2018-02-28 02:17:32 UTC

Answer me, faggot

2018-02-28 04:36:59 UTC

I guess I'm not getting my answer

2018-02-28 04:37:11 UTC

I'm just curious is all

2018-02-28 16:50:24 UTC

@Deleted User Will I get an answer?

2018-02-28 17:13:18 UTC

kos emko sharmota

2018-02-28 17:13:28 UTC

bl3b bksas emyatko kos o5to

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ูƒุณ ุงุฎุชูƒูˆ

2018-02-28 17:13:45 UTC

nik omk

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