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amigos
Hola
Taco taco
Give me mimium wage and I cut your lawns
me gusta football
La hegemonรญa se mueve en la tensiรณn entre el nรบcleo irradiador y la seducciรณn de los sectores aliados laterales. Afirmaciรณn - apertura.
pinochet should've been more efficient.
pinocuck
hello my name is george pablano!!!!
Just saved that from 4chan /int/, rate.
>Glasses
REEE
Honestly surprised that's from /int/
hola maricones
estรกis bien?
contras 4 life
oliver north did nothing wrong
Lmao Cock
Rooster is a symbol of homosexuality in Russian prison culture
dope
@National Trotskyist ะฟะตะดะธะบะธ?)))
@Deleted User I think he's just joking
No pasaran k
LOL
๐
JODER QUE
No pasaran? Ya hemos pasao ๐
^ bien dicho
No pasaran
No pasaran fascistas de mierda!
Ironic people still shout this when they lost.
Fucking anarkiddies.
We passed 79 years ago.
Franco betrayed the revolution
Fucker got rid of Jose Antonio
@RUSHack#1520 he was killed by the second spanish republic
yo niggaz
bienveneu
tra
ps
>national syndicalist
fukn bot
what
National syndicalist
Wtf
que tal negros
What's so strange about national syndicalists?
<:bour:313709044957315082>
https://i.ylilauta.org/c5/81e7ac76.jpg
So that's what he was doing hiding in Argentina all the time.
Ya never know dude
Ariba
Yo soy muy hermoso
No me gusta los capitais
Y si comunismo
franco = based salazar = based
@Deleted User Nope.
who dose nibbas @National Trotskyist
@Deleted User Primo de Rivera and Rolรฃo Preto, leaders of the Spanish and Portuguese fascist (national-syndicalist) political parties.
Franco and Salazar were conservacucks dictators. Actual fascists hated them.
This is the reason all modern day 3 Falangist political parties in Spain are republican and anti-Franco.
thx will research them
np
Hi fellow niggers
Sup spicks
Spick fuckers
Hows Mexico?
Communism is trash yooo
Democracy fte
Ftw*
Lool
G0
To
Arabic
Omg yas
being a leftie kicks asss โค
as in being a communist not using the left hand
No
uuuuuhhhhh
de donde esta el baรฑo
al fondo a la derecha
Si senor, y soy de rancho
hola buenas
hola
Bienvenido a nuestra gloriosa comunidad de izquierda.
bienvenido
gracias gente
jajajaja
clasicos
jajajajajaja
yo no tengo va a vivo
ah si si
Hola
Me quiero morir
stoi bn meco
spicks
Franco did nothing wrong
Franco did nothing wrong
a
Franco literally had sharia police patrols lol.
Twas Saudi Arabia tier.
Franco fue el mejor espanol
Francisco Franco dindu nuffin ayet ahll man
He could have done worse
franco gay
Franco Francisco
>Francisco Paulino Hermenegildo Teรณdulo Franco Bahamonde Salgado-Araujo y Pardo de Lama
Having so many names is muslim tier. You think it's a remnant of the Moorish Caliphate?
Senora
rided with shortages?
Mi kurac duele
Some folks say that Pinochet killed an unspeakable amount of people.
I say.
Communists arenโt people.
<:bour:313709044957315082>
Some say stalin killed inoccent Ukrainians.
I say.
Kulaks deserved worse
<:stalin:426907242927882242>
Some say the expulsion of white farmers from South Africa is highly unjust.
I say.
We waz kangz man fuck whitey.
<:merchant:323550879749898242>
๐
Pinoshit was a kike lover.
Allende was redpilled on the jews.
Kek
hola
Some say that Nestor Makhno viciously slaughtered mennonites
I say
That Mennonites are disgusting German parasites who spied for the germans
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holo ebla espanoles
Hola camarada
Hi
Cuba is no more monarcho-communist, rip. Now there's only North Korea left =(.
Hola
Not teue
True
Look up modern communist countries there should still be a few
As a Cuban, im proud to say... **Fuck Castro and fuck communism.**
It ruined my homeland
*both Castros
@killsometime#2709
Great man right there
Bolivia va a morirse
Por Evo Morales, la socialista
- The only reason the school system is that well is because they literally abuse the children. I have cousins that literally get beaten by teachers and administrators for failing tests.
- Universal healthcare? Boi I have actually been to a hospital in Cuba. Not the pretty one in Havana that they send tourists and the press to, no I went to the one that my actual family goes to. A hospital in central Cuba where the actual Cuban people go. It is an absolute disaster. A train wreck. It is as if they never even heard of hand sanitizer. It was hot and humid and you could see mold on the roof.
- Income??? **Income?** *Income ROSE?* what fantasy are you looking at? Everyone in Cuba, and I mean every who isnโt a Castro or their friends, is dirt poor. Why do you think they never go on vacations anywhere? The live in shacks and tiny cramped public housing. They have no wealth. Nobody has wealth. They barely have enough for food. Thatโs why me and my family have to send our family thatโs imprisoned on the island money to buy basic necessities for a decent lining standard. I went there just last year and they were completely mystified by a VHR. What kind of wealth is in Cuba outside of the Castro residence?
- there is no excess of poverty because everyone is in poverty. To them, poverty is seen as normal and average.
So yea
Itโs a complete and utter shithole
The rusting cruise ship port in Havana is a testament to the reason why Communism destroyed an island that had so much potential.
I want to see you try and convince me, that what I saw with my own 2 eyes was not a shithole
@The Fourth International#8084
Why canโt I ping
**Tell me...
- How do you justify the literal child abuse going on in government schools for children who fail to accomplish assignments properly?
- how do you consider a โhospitalโ or โclinicโ that resembles a hospital out of a zombie apocalypse movie, to be** *โprimary healthcareโ?*
**- how do you explain a raise in income when literally everyone except for like 50 people on the island is living in dirt poor poverty standards.**
The only reason they say their care is *primary* is because its all so much crap that they can call it primary and they cant say its wrong because that shitty hole of โmedicineโ truly is the best medical service they can find
Not to mention the horrendous human rights violations they have in Cuba that they are infamously known for? Oh yes, their prison and system of โjusticeโ
My uncle got a front row seat for that โutopian justice systemโ
By getting 15 years of hard labor, and having his wife and kids harassed by the police themselves. They rather call other criminals to protect them from crime than call the police.
He was release and managed to escape the prison island and is now peacefully living in Hialeah, Florida
What was the crime he did you may ask? Robbery? Rape? Rioting? None of the above. He was saying how he didnt like communism or how Castro was running the island. That is literally it
If **anyone** can defend the โgloriousโ communist prison of Castroโs Cuba... please... do not hesitate
Rant over.
Wait
Didn't you say you lived in the United states on that other server?
Lmao
I live in the US but i have family in Cuba. I have visited them and seen your โgloriousโ communist haven
And we can talk about Guantanamo Bay another day because frankly, what the US does there does not affect how Cuba treats its people
>capitalism
>human rights
W E W
Nice a picture. Lets take it apart and inject some hard truths. just for the sake of arguments, i will even pretend that they dont modify numbers to make things seem better than they are because youโd have to be a complete moron to think they dont change numbers. Every tyrannical dictatorship changes statistical numbers to make is seem like their people are happy and healthy under their rule.
- Education related squares - they refuse to address the terrible child abuse employed by the government to achieve such statistics. The school system in Cuba isnt even that great. They learn to read and write but thats it. When cubans come to the United States with a degree in literally anything, it is equated to a high school diploma because of how low the education is. Very rarely does it equate to an American equivalent to an AA degree. Therefore it is much more easier to fund free education because the education is shit.
- Gender Equality squares - this has nothing to do with communism. Unless i missed a chapter of something. An economic system is not more gender accepting than other economic systems. That is purely social and cultural decisions that have very little if anything to do with economics. At the very least, they fact that so many men are being sent to prison camps for voicing discontent will open the door for more women to take their roles in society. And thats a bit *if*.
- The health squares - the majority of these vaccines came with massive support from China and the former Soviet Union. And just because they participate in foreign aid missions doesnโt mean they are the ones who led or had a crucial role in that effort. They could literally send one person and they will be counted as assisting the cause. Just like many other nations do. Norway and Sweden sent i think a total of 10 people (max) to help the US in their wars of the Middle East and yet they are considered to be as participating in these actions.
- Living standards - this is literally laughable. In every essence. The low unemployment rate (if its true) could only be achieved by people being forced to take jobs that they donโt want. It also limits the possibilities for innovation because as more technology emerges, people loose their jobs to that technology which would cause unemployment to rise. This is a major role as to why there is extremely low development on the island even though they are close allies of China. This also fails to even address the horrific poverty that has fallen onto the island even thought they have been aided by the Soviet Union, Venezuela, and China.
And if you want to debate the military actions of the US in Syria, we can. But once again. That has absolutely nothing to do with Cubaโs horrific human rights violations due to communism and tyrannical dictatorship.
Yeah I don't know what to say
I respect the fact you are honest
Most would just make up some BS
Most people don't consider Cuba a communist state though
Well.... Me, my cuban family, cuban friends, basically the entire cuban american community in the city of Miami, and even my family in Cuba all firmly agree it is communism. Even the people who support the regime in Cuba (due to brainwashing by the government) agree it is communism
Youโre possibly the first person i encounter to even see it as not a communist nation
And that was after you defended Cuba as being a communist nation
It calls itself a Communist country. But it is actually a country with State Capitalism in which the government owns the means of production and retains the earnings of the workers for the most part. And the government is operated as a dictatorship.
Cuba does not follow the ten planks of Communismโฆ there is social class disparity, money, private property, they manage their tourism in USD, the government doesnโt provide them with basic needsโฆ I can keep counting
Itโs a failed state. Not a communist one
Wait wait wait.... what?
You literally just tried to convince me that Cuba provided healthcare and education systems that you also claimed was of good quality. Now youโre saying they donโt provide that.... what exactly is your view on it? Do they provide basic needs or not?
(I love how you deleted your former comment that started this whole thing. Good thing i took a screenshot of is)
You also said there was โno excess of poverty or opulenceโ which is equal to social class disparity. Once again... which one is it? Do they have social class disparity or not?
Screenshot for reference
I don't remember ever defending Cuba as a communist country
You are defending their communist government, communist practices, communist โachievementsโ, and you were responding to my direct attacks against the Communist leader and its communist government.
Just using basic critical thinking will allow anyone to see that you were defending them as a communist nation.
You even made an attack against capitalism which only reinforces the inference that you were arguing this on the basis of communism and its functionality because you tried to bring a comparison between capitalism. A very strange attack if i may add which had no real value to the arguments.
It might've been a person mimicking my account
Right.
Are you gonna go with that one
You sure
I seemed to have attempted to ping the right person
Definitely the same person
Hmm. Strange is it not?
You can change your little numbers
Hay solo dos gรฉneros
Y hay sรณlo dos sexos
Exacto
Hola
Que tal?
I'm half Ecuadorian though
taco
oh nice!
i was just asking how are things
nice to know bro
de donde esta el baรฑo
Quien actualmente habla espaรฑol
@killsometime#2709 it definitely CANNOT be communism. If you have a state, you cannot be communist. You can be socialist
socialism in the pursuit of communism
but if there is a hierarchical government it isn't communism
if there is any state it cannot be communist.
people should know this by now
Moneyless, stateless, classless
who will maintain the communism if not a state?
a worker run state is communism in the pursuit of full communism aka ancom
with the state gone, anyone can just decide on their own what they want to pay their employees, when there is no state to intervene economically
when people say communism, full communism is meant.
not socialism
when marx talks about the state he refers to the bourgeois state
@kauserlol employees? wut.
dude go read
a marxist state is still a "state" and is communism,
no it isnโt
alot of what a state is, is just semantics
There is lower phase communism, aka Socialism. Transitional phase. Full communism is stateless. Although of course law is enforced by community.
Just like in Anarcho-Communism
but it is how the laws are determined and put in place that is the difference between a Marxist state and a ancom free territory
worker councils/ soviets and the like
Marx states clearly. Lower phase communism is the phase with a socialist state. Full communism implies the withering away of the state
I guess maybe
hey
but there isnโt a definite structure to full communism according to Marx as far as Iโm aware
hi there
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