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the US is full of fertile farmland
theres so much food there
they lack the birthrate to use all of it
Half the recourses are not even seen
thats why everyone is fat
As is Eastern Europe
everybody is fat because of values
not because of the food produced
its both
@WaitFor(You) And that is not to say that eastern europe cannot produce shit?
Eastern Europe is not barren
theres alot of cheap food
Also communism doesn't work if it collapses it means it doesn't work
and the values of america include gorging yourself on cheap processed food
Capitalism sure not the best system but better than communism
lol
Atleast then you get to start small then grow
LMAO
capitalism loses long term everytime
waste all the resources
than
shit
^
wtf happened to the jobs
Ever heard of the modern era
wtf happened to the land we spoiled
The 1990s era capitalism was the best form
outsourcing is late stage capitalism
Industry is a cancer
Communism is by essence productivist, so the ressource argument is rejected
when capitalism gets to the late stage
wtf i thought mother terra could produce for all us
it always gets shit
Same with communism
capitolism fails in the fact there is no benefit to not wasting resources
Communism and capitalism both get worse overtime depending on who leads it
we havent even gotten to actual communism
@WaitFor(You) Do you even know what is the final stage of communism ?
communism ends up with conversation in materials used and better products for longer term use
look at light bulbs in the west and east
That is true but how can you get to it when fucking socialism fails first
lol
it works often enough
The foundation of communism is socialism
I feel the google research burning your fingers
just look at nazi germany
and how prosperous it was
before the wars
before all the shitty things happened
communism is pretty much that
except you dont pay for anything
Note that I did say depending on who leads it
@WaitFor(You) Except there was currency and people paid for things.
>look at how all the state actors made a socialist country shitty
yeah
It was just because they were aiming for the war
like spain
So not at all.
if you have a dictator which is always the case in those countries
You get this but if you get a nice guy which he will die
Otherwise, having a war industry and not using it is just a complete failure
spain was on a fast track to being right, then outside actors stepped
if germany didnt get into wars and had a dictator who wanted to force out ethinic minorities
in
@WaitFor(You) Hitler himself said that national socialism is nothing like marxian socialism.
it wouldve done great
Nothing will happen because he is dead
@WaitFor(You) Wrong.
Remember jfk?
>not like marxist socialism because i say so
The one good leader died
>the idea of people doesnt live on and effect us today
okay bud
the differences end at egalitarianism
and private property
@WaitFor(You) So the civil uprising in the weimar republic funded by trotsky and lenin were examples of it being a great and prosperous nation?
other than that
not much different
Big differences
The german economic situation was better under nazi governance just because of the war industry
depends
Communism also creates food shortages in the ussr there where lines for food
HAVE YOU SEEN RUSSIA
ITS ALL DESERTY TUNDRA
Because you could not easily send food over to the capital from the farm
FOR FUCK SAKES
Parts of Russia
Many is arable
most of it
no
is desert
And Russia had Ukraine
A breadbasket
@Breen Western russia, while harsh in the winter is good enough to grow crops in.
theres people still starving today
and dying
in russia
@WaitFor(You) did you pass any grade?
their style of government doesnt solve their problem
although the ussr did make some pretty sustainble methods of fertilizer production compared to the west
And it's happening because of the fucking collapse
they have virtually no agricultural trade partners
thats why people starve in russia
@WaitFor(You) That was implying that the soviet style of governance was perfect.
no government is perfect
but just because it isnt
doesnt mean it doesnt work
you would tell me the same thing
No system works ever because both will fail
Capitalism and communism both will fail
by that logic why have government at all
just make everything mcdonalds
and nuke people with mcnukes if a person steps too close to your house
right?
I don't live in America I live in Canada which I advise you not to move too if you like money
LOL
ARE YOU A LEAF?
Stay away from Ontario the prices for energy just will kill you
Ha ha ha every fucking time
Gross
Nuke canada tbh
aRe YoU a LeAf?
Canada is a sad, disappointing little country
Atleast we have clean air
Which unfortunately has a majority of stupid people in it
the minority of smart people have to suffer at their whim ๐ญ
i mean i have been to winnepeg and it smells like shit
bad shit too
@Fusion Canada should have been taken by the US.
Canada is late stage liberal capitalism
NO
enjoy competing with a slave class
NO AMERICA
I like my universal healthcare
lol canada is already pretty well intergrated
We have universal healthcare too
it's called Obamacare
:v
free healthcare isnt communism
HA it's going away in front of your eyes
@Fusion Obama care is getting repealed.
I know
corporations rape your state
thank God
And with something worse too
canada has 5% corporate taxes
Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.
hardly socialist
thank god obama care is going and nothing is going to replace
kill off the parasites
I hope you know I live in fucking Calgary the Latvia of Canada
Literally no one visits us
>calgary
Healthcare is the right of the proletariat
@WaitFor(You) How so?
been there too, it is okay
average compared to most of america
if you put your body on the line for your country
the least you can get is free healthcare
@WaitFor(You) Yet they are not, they are working for the corporations.
Also in Canada we have a lot of things better than the states for example something called low crime
Which is why many corproations cover health care.
low crime = ignored crime i have found
And we have get this better service providers
lots of poachers and smugglers in canada
^
shot a couple of foxes there
fun thing
hasnt canada had few terror attacks
@WaitFor(You) Why have the state pay for healthcare when the corporation can still do it?
That go to the bigger cities
poaching
bigger city
hmmmm
because a corporation can fuck you over
and drop coverage
smuggling
bigger city
hmmmmmm
Well in terms of illegal child trafficking
@WaitFor(You) Then what is stopping the state making laws that protect the worker?
Drug trafficking
the corporations who threaten to close up or leave
actually i found it easier to buy weed in canada than the us
just more spendy
again
Obamacare has proven that corporations dont work for people in healthcare
blind eye
@WaitFor(You) Well, let them close up then.
law enforcement doesnt have a war on drugs
the mandates make the companies close up
Weed is a good medicine for what I've seen
it isnt
because companies ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFIT
its for pleasure
Not perfect yes but good and only the big ones
universal healthcare is the only thing that works
Japan has it
and its great over there
The small ones tend to be sometimes nice but the big huge fucking ones are the issue
@WaitFor(You) If the laws you are making are causing all bisnuesses to close up because they can no longer afford it, then that is an issue.
yes
the companies were running companies for just pure profit
health and profit should never go together
Well now the Jews know
If that is case then companies should pay partly for the coverage, and the person getting the healthcare can either get insurance or can pay it themself.
do you hate yourself
Also no such thing as free healthcare
have you seen co pays for things beyond standard doctor visits
You still have to pay some money
sometimes its in the thousands
Not much but still
you cant pay for that comftorably
Also the issue in America is the fact that big pharma exists
@WaitFor(You) Which, with the company paying patrly for it under your contract, and your healthcare insurance also covering it, then you should be able to pay for it.
They want the money
yeah but current talks are under way to accept british and french medicines
without the fda having the drugs approved
You're arguing for a failed system
The fda is useless
not really
@Deleted User No, fuck thyat.
but they are outdated
the FDA is corrupted
They turn a blind eye to literally all that is unhealthy
by capitalism
I do not want to be using drugs that are not approved for saftey.
capitalism is what kills your people
While the medicine that's effective is going in the trash
capitalism is what sends your country to pointless wars for bank money
keep advocating this broken system
its funny to me
Note that's modern capitalism the 1990s era capitalism was a lot better
LMAO WHAT
@WaitFor(You) While I would agree with you that we have been in wars that we should not have been in, it was not because of capitalism, it was due to political misinformation and degredation.
And money
why do you think that political misinformation exists?
War is a business
The US invaded iraq because we the country thought that it was producing chemical weapons and was literally gassing the kurds.
do you even know why the US went to war in Iraq?
they said that so people wouldnt flip a ashit
Yet now, a potential for terrorism exists in the country.
they made up fake bullshit to get people rah rah to remove saddam
but in reality
Wars exist to make a few bucks
all that Iraq did was challenge the power of israel in the middle east and stopped trading in USD
People are selling literal death to these countries who are fighting against the enemy
@long live the tsar How on earth does spending billions of dollars sending air craft carriers and tens of thousands of soldiers to iraq to kill other people there get the country money?
Afganistan was a way to smuggle in cheap opium to make painkillers in the US for big pharma
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