the US is full of fertile farmland

theres so much food there

they lack the birthrate to use all of it

Half the recourses are not even seen

thats why everyone is fat

As is Eastern Europe

everybody is fat because of values

not because of the food produced

its both

@WaitFor(You) And that is not to say that eastern europe cannot produce shit?

Eastern Europe is not barren

theres alot of cheap food

Also communism doesn't work if it collapses it means it doesn't work

and the values of america include gorging yourself on cheap processed food

Capitalism sure not the best system but better than communism

lol

Atleast then you get to start small then grow

LMAO

capitalism loses long term everytime

waste all the resources

than

shit

^

wtf happened to the jobs

Ever heard of the modern era

wtf happened to the land we spoiled

The 1990s era capitalism was the best form

outsourcing is late stage capitalism

Industry is a cancer

Communism is by essence productivist, so the ressource argument is rejected

when capitalism gets to the late stage

wtf i thought mother terra could produce for all us

it always gets shit

Same with communism

capitolism fails in the fact there is no benefit to not wasting resources

Communism and capitalism both get worse overtime depending on who leads it

we havent even gotten to actual communism

@WaitFor(You) Do you even know what is the final stage of communism ?

communism ends up with conversation in materials used and better products for longer term use

look at light bulbs in the west and east

That is true but how can you get to it when fucking socialism fails first

lol

it works often enough

The foundation of communism is socialism

I feel the google research burning your fingers

just look at nazi germany

and how prosperous it was

before the wars

before all the shitty things happened

communism is pretty much that

except you dont pay for anything

Note that I did say depending on who leads it

@WaitFor(You) Except there was currency and people paid for things.

>look at how all the state actors made a socialist country shitty

yeah

It was just because they were aiming for the war

like spain

So not at all.

if you have a dictator which is always the case in those countries

You get this but if you get a nice guy which he will die

Otherwise, having a war industry and not using it is just a complete failure

spain was on a fast track to being right, then outside actors stepped

if germany didnt get into wars and had a dictator who wanted to force out ethinic minorities

in

@WaitFor(You) Hitler himself said that national socialism is nothing like marxian socialism.

it wouldve done great

Nothing will happen because he is dead

@WaitFor(You) Wrong.

Remember jfk?

>not like marxist socialism because i say so

The one good leader died

>the idea of people doesnt live on and effect us today

okay bud

the differences end at egalitarianism

and private property

@WaitFor(You) So the civil uprising in the weimar republic funded by trotsky and lenin were examples of it being a great and prosperous nation?

other than that

not much different

Big differences

The german economic situation was better under nazi governance just because of the war industry

depends

Communism also creates food shortages in the ussr there where lines for food

HAVE YOU SEEN RUSSIA

ITS ALL DESERTY TUNDRA

Because you could not easily send food over to the capital from the farm

FOR FUCK SAKES

Parts of Russia

Many is arable

most of it

no

is desert

And Russia had Ukraine

A breadbasket

@Breen Western russia, while harsh in the winter is good enough to grow crops in.

theres people still starving today

and dying

in russia

@WaitFor(You) did you pass any grade?

their style of government doesnt solve their problem

although the ussr did make some pretty sustainble methods of fertilizer production compared to the west

And it's happening because of the fucking collapse

they have virtually no agricultural trade partners

thats why people starve in russia

@WaitFor(You) That was implying that the soviet style of governance was perfect.

no government is perfect

but just because it isnt

doesnt mean it doesnt work

you would tell me the same thing

No system works ever because both will fail

Capitalism and communism both will fail

by that logic why have government at all

just make everything mcdonalds

and nuke people with mcnukes if a person steps too close to your house

right?

I don't live in America I live in Canada which I advise you not to move too if you like money

LOL

ARE YOU A LEAF?

Stay away from Ontario the prices for energy just will kill you

Ha ha ha every fucking time

Gross

Nuke canada tbh

aRe YoU a LeAf?

Canada is a sad, disappointing little country

Atleast we have clean air

Which unfortunately has a majority of stupid people in it

the minority of smart people have to suffer at their whim 😭

i mean i have been to winnepeg and it smells like shit

bad shit too

@Fusion Canada should have been taken by the US.

Canada is late stage liberal capitalism

NO

enjoy competing with a slave class

NO AMERICA

I like my universal healthcare

lol canada is already pretty well intergrated

We have universal healthcare too

it's called Obamacare

:v

free healthcare isnt communism

HA it's going away in front of your eyes

@Fusion Obama care is getting repealed.

I know

corporations rape your state

thank God

And with something worse too

canada has 5% corporate taxes

Healthcare is a privilege, not a right.

hardly socialist

thank god obama care is going and nothing is going to replace

kill off the parasites

I hope you know I live in fucking Calgary the Latvia of Canada

Literally no one visits us

>calgary

Healthcare is the right of the proletariat

@WaitFor(You) How so?

been there too, it is okay

average compared to most of america

if you put your body on the line for your country

the least you can get is free healthcare

@WaitFor(You) Yet they are not, they are working for the corporations.

Also in Canada we have a lot of things better than the states for example something called low crime

Which is why many corproations cover health care.

low crime = ignored crime i have found

And we have get this better service providers

lots of poachers and smugglers in canada

^

shot a couple of foxes there

fun thing

hasnt canada had few terror attacks

@WaitFor(You) Why have the state pay for healthcare when the corporation can still do it?

That go to the bigger cities

poaching

bigger city

hmmmm

because a corporation can fuck you over

and drop coverage

smuggling

bigger city

hmmmmmm

Well in terms of illegal child trafficking

@WaitFor(You) Then what is stopping the state making laws that protect the worker?

Drug trafficking

the corporations who threaten to close up or leave

actually i found it easier to buy weed in canada than the us

just more spendy

again

Obamacare has proven that corporations dont work for people in healthcare

blind eye

@WaitFor(You) Well, let them close up then.

law enforcement doesnt have a war on drugs

the mandates make the companies close up

Weed is a good medicine for what I've seen

it isnt

because companies ONLY CARE ABOUT PROFIT

its for pleasure

Not perfect yes but good and only the big ones

universal healthcare is the only thing that works

Japan has it

and its great over there

The small ones tend to be sometimes nice but the big huge fucking ones are the issue

@WaitFor(You) If the laws you are making are causing all bisnuesses to close up because they can no longer afford it, then that is an issue.

yes

the companies were running companies for just pure profit

health and profit should never go together

Well now the Jews know

If that is case then companies should pay partly for the coverage, and the person getting the healthcare can either get insurance or can pay it themself.

do you hate yourself

Also no such thing as free healthcare

have you seen co pays for things beyond standard doctor visits

You still have to pay some money

sometimes its in the thousands

Not much but still

you cant pay for that comftorably

Also the issue in America is the fact that big pharma exists

@WaitFor(You) Which, with the company paying patrly for it under your contract, and your healthcare insurance also covering it, then you should be able to pay for it.

They want the money

yeah but current talks are under way to accept british and french medicines

without the fda having the drugs approved

You're arguing for a failed system

The fda is useless

not really

@Deleted User No, fuck thyat.

but they are outdated

the FDA is corrupted

They turn a blind eye to literally all that is unhealthy

by capitalism

I do not want to be using drugs that are not approved for saftey.

capitalism is what kills your people

While the medicine that's effective is going in the trash

capitalism is what sends your country to pointless wars for bank money

keep advocating this broken system

its funny to me

Note that's modern capitalism the 1990s era capitalism was a lot better

LMAO WHAT

@WaitFor(You) While I would agree with you that we have been in wars that we should not have been in, it was not because of capitalism, it was due to political misinformation and degredation.

And money

why do you think that political misinformation exists?

War is a business

The US invaded iraq because we the country thought that it was producing chemical weapons and was literally gassing the kurds.

do you even know why the US went to war in Iraq?

they said that so people wouldnt flip a ashit

Yet now, a potential for terrorism exists in the country.

they made up fake bullshit to get people rah rah to remove saddam

but in reality

Wars exist to make a few bucks

all that Iraq did was challenge the power of israel in the middle east and stopped trading in USD

People are selling literal death to these countries who are fighting against the enemy

@long live the tsar How on earth does spending billions of dollars sending air craft carriers and tens of thousands of soldiers to iraq to kill other people there get the country money?

Afganistan was a way to smuggle in cheap opium to make painkillers in the US for big pharma