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go back to africa
i hate nignogs in my countries
No, it's simple observation ๐
they need to go right the fuck back to africa
why complain about them having children if you're bringing them into your country
I don't like having the alt-right in my country either
and then say it s what keeps them poor
maybe we can come to a deal and exterminate both
@Gavroche Yet that will make them weak and dependant on the countries for the rest of their existance, tell me, what has funding to humanitarian support done to africa?
its almost like you want cheap slaves to build weapons for your shitty EU army
no niggers no righties
it'll be paradise
Actually, we only accept 30 000 refugees over the last two years in France
that is enough to take over certin sectors of your industry
can your state even provide for them
oh wait you cut social programs
France is disgusting
the state doesn't need to provide for them.
might as well have elected le pen
@Deleted User It has make them enter in the demographic transition, which is the phase 1 of the industrialisation we all got through
@Frenchdoor#3013 no righties?
kek
downs
@Gavroche it appears to me you're no different than any of these trump supporters
@Gavroche Over the course of 300 years?
Amazing.
@WaitFor(You) Cut social program ? Please, 57% of our GDP is socialized, you might teach me about housing in Compton, but not about my country's situation
that isnt enough
thats hardly even socialism
ahahahah
lets see here
Let's just tax all bisnuesses by 95% and spend all of the money we get from it on welfare.
you support a racist economically right wing leader who thinks africans cause problems for themselves just because they have children
Health is socialized, education is socialized, most of the energy sector is socialized, even the transport sector is piloted by companies which directly related to the state
you sound like someone in america complaining about Obama
those are good things
that all should be socialized
No, I'm glad that we provide health care to all the people, but that is clearly enough
basic neccessities and utilities have to be free
or youll have unproductive workers
@WaitFor(You) Why would you want to have sex and give birth to children who you know are going to have issues getting basic nutrition and clean water?
Socialized what... The bakehouse ?
you are a right winger
food should be free too
Should housing be free too?
you should be able to go anywhere in communist society and get anything you want without exchange of payment
because it all belongs to you
yes of course it should
@WaitFor(You) Oh great I can sit at home all day eating chips and masturbating to anime all day,
if you really want to
yes
@WaitFor(You) Your wife belongs to me then
found the right winger
you trolls can hardly hold character
i say a few things and you get triggered
Think like it's time for a little bit of Hoppean Snake meme ๐
you cant hold it in yourselves
is the pinochet joke all you have? do you even know what chile even was like back then?
How is the countries economics going to stay afloat when all you have is a group of pussies who do nothing but snort coke off of each others genitals all day and masturbate to anime while shitposting on 4chan?
A gigantic farm ?
@Deleted User those people don't last long in society
@Deleted User as long as you keep your population and demographics managable it works fine
They last fine in this society
101 Economics
@WaitFor(You) Yet everything is free, so they get free healthcare, free housing, free internet, free food, and free water, so they are probably going to live just as long as the average person.
They kill themselves or end up homeless and hardly use state resources because they are criminals
so how does the state suffer because of them
Nope
They soak up welfare
thats a misconception
How are they criminals?
do you know anything about communism?
I do
I know it doesn't work
yes it does
even communism light works
im sure a fascist like you would know that some of your favorite figures were socialists
Yhea, because the khemer rouge really knew how it worked.
@WaitFor(You) I know that if it doesn't work, it's not communism ๐
I'm not opposed to socialism
you try running a country successfully when the whole world has embargoes on you
its impossible
a country has to trade for resources
noone has everything
The Nazis learned that the hard way
@WaitFor(You) No, the khemer rouge did not fail because of failing economics.
Losers sentences, always because of the others.
National Socialism was very successful because it was very much like communism
They killed everybody who had any slight detail of being educated and were actually invaded by vietnam because they were preforming mass genocides.
China seems to do fine these days
@WaitFor(You) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
"They were bad, they didn't want to trade with us, that's why we failed" Communists whining because of not enough trading, gold ๐
they're gonna surpass the United States in 20 years if they dont get their shit together
Unlikely
The US is still too busy fighting themselves
@WaitFor(You) China has a crippling debt issue and is totally dependant on child slaves and oil.
China has production and resources
Debt in Fiat means nothing
China is implenenting communism in Africa
@WaitFor(You) So your entire economy being dependant on imports from another country isn't?
they have access to african resources
and have done well living among africans
Yes, implementing resources by stealing all of the oil in africa.
>stealing
since when do you care about stealing
>No, it is not stealing, they gave it to us
now morality is an issue for you
@WaitFor(You) Btw, you know China is not a communist state ?
lmao
Who cares if it is
Atleast the chinks will put it to use
@WaitFor(You) "IT IS COMMUNISM IF I SAY SO!"
@Gavroche you dont know anything about communism
And I wonder how is China communist?
Because communism with free-market is like a humburger without the pickles, it's pointless
Ableton Live or FL Studio?
^^
no it isnt
communism doesnt have to apply to a stupid dictionary description
@WaitFor(You) China is a capitalist state with the only governing party behind it claiming to be communist when in reality it is just a totalitarian conservative party.
well any government style doesnt really
thats like saying fascism cant be libertarian
or that capitalism cant be totalitarian
get real
Indeed, they can't, or atleast, it would not be efficient
Capitalism needs liberty to exploit its full potential
communism can have liberty too
in an other universe, maybe
@WaitFor(You) So do you think that laos was communist?
im not talking about laos
i dont know much about south east asian countries
I am just asking you a question about a supposidely communist country.
the only thing i care about is the country i live in
>welfare in a communist state
brother
looks like this is either a troll server
@WaitFor(You) You're not a real communist
or we are being raided
it is a leftypol server
we are always being raided
you new?
@Deleted User Both individual and social is important.
Otherwise you would already have talked about cuban doctors.
t!info @WaitFor(You)
actually
sheir
You wont fool me, I've met too many communists ๐
@WaitFor(You) >When you claim to be a communist yet you believe in individuality and private property along with stealing from the working class in africa
@Gavroche but how many communes have you worked on
i didnt even talk about private property
stop foaming
^
@WaitFor(You) Yet you said earlier that everything should be free and the government should distribute it, you never specified whether or not it was still public or private property.
@Deleted User The French Commune of 1871, the only one I regret
do i have to?
yeah but you didnt work on it
I'd like to
It was an anarchist revolution, not a communist one
so is what you're telling me is
most communists in general havent worked
@WaitFor(You) You should, if you want people to take what you say seriously.
"your ideology isnt perfect therefore it doesnt work"
LMAO
they are lazy city scum who have nothing to do with the means of production
The proletariat is no better
I prefer Proudhon over Marx, if you're familiar with left writers it should ring a bell
The united states and modern europe are the worst of egalitarianism and capitalism
Content with their lives as long as the drugs and welfare keeps rolling in
capitalism without nationalism is pretty awful
the working class is better though
same with communism
@WaitFor(You) Explain me that then ?
but the working class is small
Want the translation maybe ?
The working class is no better
And not small
you need a strong working class who feels like they contribute to something that really matters
I have worked with many working class
@WaitFor(You) You are not going to stop all of the issues today by making everything free, you are just going to make those issues explode
Patrimony concentration
it is, the working class is willing to put up 70 hours a week without overtime
You see the richest falling and the middle class climbing
we got a welfare class
Living in a country where your endgame is a cable subscription and not being in debt is not a fufilling dream
How does that make them better?
communism can eliminate the "welfare class"
because they are willing to sacrifice to grow
What?
growth is key in all society
@WaitFor(You) The welfare class will evolve into the welfare state.
They don't grow in anyway
stagnation is damnation
that isnt true
What a pitty he never succeed doing so :/
They live their lives content
again you do not understand that what i am talking about hasnt even been implemented
And do nothing to change it
content is fine for them but what about the rest of us
Yea yea yeah I know, it wasn't really communism ๐
are we to idle while they waste resources in a limited vacum
@WaitFor(You) That is because it is physically impossible to do so without changing the entire world and changing the mindset of everybody in it.
will the endless generations be brought to a close by a billion persons?
1 country has the change the whole world
But if you know about marxist corpus, you know he predicts the end of capitalism by itself, so why bothering you ?
are you a globalist?
Hey idiots let me tell you something
ban hammer
Ever heard of a man by the name Gorbachev?
@WaitFor(You) Not at all.
i have no idea what you are but you seem to idolize rome and dont have any coherent argument
He was the man who ruined the Soviet Union next to the drunk bastard Yeltsin
^
If it takes one fucking person to ruin a system why support it
@WaitFor(You) >He does not get the meaning behind the fasces
It will not fucking work if it takes one person to collapse it
but the USSR didn't have any help at all
They were esentially on their own with the eastern bloc
they were embargoed by the west
Why would I ever want to work at a job when I get everything free and never have to put any effort in anything?
Probably due to the atrocities
i think the USSR did pretty ok despite their circumstances
The ussr was not a good thing it was only good when lenin was there and even then it still was far from the paradise you want
Nazi Germany didnt even last more than 12 years
Due to losing a war
nazi germany also didnt want to deal with the surrender of its nation
@WaitFor(You) Yhea, just put aside the mass starvations, genocide and poverty that happened, and everything is fine.
Communism after its collapse will ruin everything
Soviet union collapsed on it's own
Nazi Germany did have the three most powerful nations in the world at the time going after it in a war that cost millions of lives
so they fought to destruction
if i cant get food into my country and people starve
what a novel concept
All counties who had it go to a road of hell
yeah but germany could have lost some spoils of war to get a surrender
The USSR is large enough to feed itself
Sounds like that's why the Berlin Airlift happened
Russia doesnt have alot of resources
It ruins the people
most of it is wasteland
russia does
since the Soviets wouldn't let food into West Berlin and people starved
plenty of them
and the neighboring countries dont really have much agricultural resources either
@WaitFor(You) Hmm... yet you own the majority of europe, and are the largest country in the world, why still can't you feed your population?
That is true Russia has a shit ton of crude oil and gas
water, ariable land, material
>Ukraine
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