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2017-07-23 00:09:53 UTC

ok

2017-07-23 00:09:55 UTC

go back to africa

2017-07-23 00:10:00 UTC

i hate nignogs in my countries

2017-07-23 00:10:01 UTC

No, it's simple observation ๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-07-23 00:10:05 UTC

they need to go right the fuck back to africa

2017-07-23 00:10:16 UTC

why complain about them having children if you're bringing them into your country

2017-07-23 00:10:23 UTC

I don't like having the alt-right in my country either

2017-07-23 00:10:26 UTC

and then say it s what keeps them poor

2017-07-23 00:10:32 UTC

maybe we can come to a deal and exterminate both

2017-07-23 00:10:39 UTC

@Gavroche Yet that will make them weak and dependant on the countries for the rest of their existance, tell me, what has funding to humanitarian support done to africa?

2017-07-23 00:10:41 UTC

its almost like you want cheap slaves to build weapons for your shitty EU army

2017-07-23 00:10:44 UTC

no niggers no righties

2017-07-23 00:10:47 UTC

it'll be paradise

2017-07-23 00:10:50 UTC

Actually, we only accept 30 000 refugees over the last two years in France

2017-07-23 00:11:11 UTC

that is enough to take over certin sectors of your industry

2017-07-23 00:11:17 UTC

can your state even provide for them

2017-07-23 00:11:23 UTC

oh wait you cut social programs

2017-07-23 00:11:33 UTC

France is disgusting

2017-07-23 00:11:43 UTC

the state doesn't need to provide for them.

2017-07-23 00:11:48 UTC

might as well have elected le pen

2017-07-23 00:11:49 UTC

@Deleted User It has make them enter in the demographic transition, which is the phase 1 of the industrialisation we all got through

2017-07-23 00:11:54 UTC

@Frenchdoor#3013 no righties?

2017-07-23 00:11:56 UTC

kek

2017-07-23 00:12:04 UTC

downs

2017-07-23 00:12:23 UTC

@Gavroche it appears to me you're no different than any of these trump supporters

2017-07-23 00:12:39 UTC

@Gavroche Over the course of 300 years?

2017-07-23 00:12:41 UTC

Amazing.

2017-07-23 00:12:56 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Cut social program ? Please, 57% of our GDP is socialized, you might teach me about housing in Compton, but not about my country's situation

2017-07-23 00:13:35 UTC

that isnt enough

2017-07-23 00:13:40 UTC

thats hardly even socialism

2017-07-23 00:13:40 UTC

ahahahah

2017-07-23 00:14:08 UTC

lets see here

2017-07-23 00:14:38 UTC

Let's just tax all bisnuesses by 95% and spend all of the money we get from it on welfare.

2017-07-23 00:14:45 UTC

you support a racist economically right wing leader who thinks africans cause problems for themselves just because they have children

2017-07-23 00:14:51 UTC

Health is socialized, education is socialized, most of the energy sector is socialized, even the transport sector is piloted by companies which directly related to the state

2017-07-23 00:15:13 UTC

you sound like someone in america complaining about Obama

2017-07-23 00:15:21 UTC

those are good things

2017-07-23 00:15:30 UTC

that all should be socialized

2017-07-23 00:15:44 UTC

No, I'm glad that we provide health care to all the people, but that is clearly enough

2017-07-23 00:15:50 UTC

basic neccessities and utilities have to be free

2017-07-23 00:16:04 UTC

or youll have unproductive workers

2017-07-23 00:16:06 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Why would you want to have sex and give birth to children who you know are going to have issues getting basic nutrition and clean water?

2017-07-23 00:16:24 UTC

Socialized what... The bakehouse ?

2017-07-23 00:16:40 UTC

you are a right winger

2017-07-23 00:16:46 UTC

food should be free too

2017-07-23 00:17:01 UTC

Should housing be free too?

2017-07-23 00:17:06 UTC

you should be able to go anywhere in communist society and get anything you want without exchange of payment

2017-07-23 00:17:15 UTC

because it all belongs to you

2017-07-23 00:17:28 UTC

yes of course it should

2017-07-23 00:17:42 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Oh great I can sit at home all day eating chips and masturbating to anime all day,

2017-07-23 00:17:50 UTC

if you really want to

2017-07-23 00:17:53 UTC

yes

2017-07-23 00:17:56 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Your wife belongs to me then

2017-07-23 00:18:05 UTC

found the right winger

2017-07-23 00:18:22 UTC

you trolls can hardly hold character

2017-07-23 00:18:32 UTC

i say a few things and you get triggered

2017-07-23 00:18:36 UTC

Think like it's time for a little bit of Hoppean Snake meme ๐Ÿ˜Ž

2017-07-23 00:18:38 UTC

you cant hold it in yourselves

2017-07-23 00:19:11 UTC

is the pinochet joke all you have? do you even know what chile even was like back then?

2017-07-23 00:19:22 UTC

How is the countries economics going to stay afloat when all you have is a group of pussies who do nothing but snort coke off of each others genitals all day and masturbate to anime while shitposting on 4chan?

2017-07-23 00:19:25 UTC

A gigantic farm ?

2017-07-23 00:19:51 UTC

@Deleted User those people don't last long in society

2017-07-23 00:20:20 UTC

@Deleted User as long as you keep your population and demographics managable it works fine

2017-07-23 00:20:27 UTC

They last fine in this society

2017-07-23 00:20:33 UTC

101 Economics

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/338475440589242380/1481340308890.png

2017-07-23 00:20:55 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Yet everything is free, so they get free healthcare, free housing, free internet, free food, and free water, so they are probably going to live just as long as the average person.

2017-07-23 00:20:55 UTC

They kill themselves or end up homeless and hardly use state resources because they are criminals

2017-07-23 00:21:04 UTC

so how does the state suffer because of them

2017-07-23 00:21:06 UTC

Nope

2017-07-23 00:21:16 UTC

They soak up welfare

2017-07-23 00:21:28 UTC

thats a misconception

2017-07-23 00:21:30 UTC

How are they criminals?

2017-07-23 00:21:40 UTC

do you know anything about communism?

2017-07-23 00:21:46 UTC

I do

2017-07-23 00:21:52 UTC

I know it doesn't work

2017-07-23 00:21:55 UTC

yes it does

2017-07-23 00:22:01 UTC

even communism light works

2017-07-23 00:22:18 UTC

im sure a fascist like you would know that some of your favorite figures were socialists

2017-07-23 00:22:19 UTC

Yhea, because the khemer rouge really knew how it worked.

2017-07-23 00:22:23 UTC

@WaitFor(You) I know that if it doesn't work, it's not communism ๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-07-23 00:22:43 UTC

I'm not opposed to socialism

2017-07-23 00:22:50 UTC

you try running a country successfully when the whole world has embargoes on you

2017-07-23 00:23:03 UTC

its impossible

2017-07-23 00:23:08 UTC

a country has to trade for resources

2017-07-23 00:23:19 UTC

noone has everything

2017-07-23 00:23:26 UTC

The Nazis learned that the hard way

2017-07-23 00:23:28 UTC

@WaitFor(You) No, the khemer rouge did not fail because of failing economics.

2017-07-23 00:23:53 UTC

Losers sentences, always because of the others.

2017-07-23 00:24:06 UTC

National Socialism was very successful because it was very much like communism

2017-07-23 00:24:07 UTC

They killed everybody who had any slight detail of being educated and were actually invaded by vietnam because they were preforming mass genocides.

2017-07-23 00:24:37 UTC

China seems to do fine these days

2017-07-23 00:24:49 UTC

@WaitFor(You) HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

2017-07-23 00:25:00 UTC

"They were bad, they didn't want to trade with us, that's why we failed" Communists whining because of not enough trading, gold ๐Ÿ˜‚

2017-07-23 00:25:02 UTC

they're gonna surpass the United States in 20 years if they dont get their shit together

2017-07-23 00:25:12 UTC

Unlikely

2017-07-23 00:25:22 UTC

The US is still too busy fighting themselves

2017-07-23 00:25:23 UTC

@WaitFor(You) China has a crippling debt issue and is totally dependant on child slaves and oil.

2017-07-23 00:25:34 UTC

China has production and resources

2017-07-23 00:25:40 UTC

Debt in Fiat means nothing

2017-07-23 00:26:04 UTC

China is implenenting communism in Africa

2017-07-23 00:26:09 UTC

@WaitFor(You) So your entire economy being dependant on imports from another country isn't?

2017-07-23 00:26:12 UTC

they have access to african resources

2017-07-23 00:26:21 UTC

and have done well living among africans

2017-07-23 00:26:29 UTC

Yes, implementing resources by stealing all of the oil in africa.

2017-07-23 00:26:35 UTC

>stealing

2017-07-23 00:26:46 UTC

since when do you care about stealing

2017-07-23 00:26:48 UTC

>No, it is not stealing, they gave it to us

2017-07-23 00:26:52 UTC

now morality is an issue for you

2017-07-23 00:26:53 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Btw, you know China is not a communist state ?

2017-07-23 00:26:55 UTC

lmao

2017-07-23 00:26:55 UTC

Who cares if it is

2017-07-23 00:27:24 UTC

Atleast the chinks will put it to use

2017-07-23 00:27:44 UTC

@WaitFor(You) "IT IS COMMUNISM IF I SAY SO!"

2017-07-23 00:27:49 UTC

@Gavroche you dont know anything about communism

2017-07-23 00:27:58 UTC

And I wonder how is China communist?

2017-07-23 00:27:59 UTC

Because communism with free-market is like a humburger without the pickles, it's pointless

2017-07-23 00:28:02 UTC

Ableton Live or FL Studio?

2017-07-23 00:28:05 UTC

^^

2017-07-23 00:28:14 UTC

no it isnt

2017-07-23 00:28:41 UTC

communism doesnt have to apply to a stupid dictionary description

2017-07-23 00:28:45 UTC

@WaitFor(You) China is a capitalist state with the only governing party behind it claiming to be communist when in reality it is just a totalitarian conservative party.

2017-07-23 00:28:52 UTC

well any government style doesnt really

2017-07-23 00:29:03 UTC

thats like saying fascism cant be libertarian

2017-07-23 00:29:16 UTC

or that capitalism cant be totalitarian

2017-07-23 00:29:22 UTC

get real

2017-07-23 00:29:36 UTC

Indeed, they can't, or atleast, it would not be efficient

2017-07-23 00:29:54 UTC

Capitalism needs liberty to exploit its full potential

2017-07-23 00:30:09 UTC

communism can have liberty too

2017-07-23 00:30:20 UTC

in an other universe, maybe

2017-07-23 00:30:33 UTC

@WaitFor(You) So do you think that laos was communist?

2017-07-23 00:30:42 UTC

im not talking about laos

2017-07-23 00:30:54 UTC

i dont know much about south east asian countries

2017-07-23 00:31:02 UTC

I am just asking you a question about a supposidely communist country.

2017-07-23 00:31:03 UTC

the only thing i care about is the country i live in

2017-07-23 00:31:07 UTC

>welfare in a communist state

2017-07-23 00:31:14 UTC

brother

2017-07-23 00:31:27 UTC

looks like this is either a troll server

2017-07-23 00:31:30 UTC

@WaitFor(You) You're not a real communist

2017-07-23 00:31:32 UTC

or we are being raided

2017-07-23 00:31:48 UTC

it is a leftypol server

2017-07-23 00:31:53 UTC

we are always being raided

2017-07-23 00:31:58 UTC

you new?

2017-07-23 00:32:04 UTC

@Deleted User Both individual and social is important.

2017-07-23 00:32:07 UTC

Otherwise you would already have talked about cuban doctors.

2017-07-23 00:32:17 UTC
2017-07-23 00:32:17 UTC

actually

2017-07-23 00:32:22 UTC

sheir

2017-07-23 00:32:22 UTC

You wont fool me, I've met too many communists ๐Ÿ˜›

2017-07-23 00:32:29 UTC

@WaitFor(You) >When you claim to be a communist yet you believe in individuality and private property along with stealing from the working class in africa

2017-07-23 00:32:43 UTC

@Gavroche but how many communes have you worked on

2017-07-23 00:32:45 UTC

i didnt even talk about private property

2017-07-23 00:32:53 UTC

stop foaming

2017-07-23 00:33:00 UTC

^

2017-07-23 00:33:27 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Yet you said earlier that everything should be free and the government should distribute it, you never specified whether or not it was still public or private property.

2017-07-23 00:33:39 UTC

@Deleted User The French Commune of 1871, the only one I regret

2017-07-23 00:33:40 UTC

do i have to?

2017-07-23 00:33:50 UTC

yeah but you didnt work on it

2017-07-23 00:33:56 UTC

I'd like to

2017-07-23 00:34:09 UTC

It was an anarchist revolution, not a communist one

2017-07-23 00:34:10 UTC

so is what you're telling me is

2017-07-23 00:34:18 UTC

most communists in general havent worked

2017-07-23 00:34:20 UTC

@WaitFor(You) You should, if you want people to take what you say seriously.

2017-07-23 00:34:29 UTC

"your ideology isnt perfect therefore it doesnt work"

2017-07-23 00:34:35 UTC

LMAO

2017-07-23 00:34:37 UTC

they are lazy city scum who have nothing to do with the means of production

2017-07-23 00:35:14 UTC

The proletariat is no better

2017-07-23 00:35:18 UTC

I prefer Proudhon over Marx, if you're familiar with left writers it should ring a bell

2017-07-23 00:35:21 UTC

The united states and modern europe are the worst of egalitarianism and capitalism

2017-07-23 00:35:28 UTC

Content with their lives as long as the drugs and welfare keeps rolling in

2017-07-23 00:35:40 UTC

capitalism without nationalism is pretty awful

2017-07-23 00:35:45 UTC

the working class is better though

2017-07-23 00:35:47 UTC

same with communism

2017-07-23 00:35:50 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Explain me that then ?

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308995540782284817/338479285679685662/image.png

2017-07-23 00:35:51 UTC

but the working class is small

2017-07-23 00:36:02 UTC

Want the translation maybe ?

2017-07-23 00:36:05 UTC

The working class is no better

2017-07-23 00:36:11 UTC

And not small

2017-07-23 00:36:15 UTC

you need a strong working class who feels like they contribute to something that really matters

2017-07-23 00:36:22 UTC

I have worked with many working class

2017-07-23 00:36:27 UTC

@WaitFor(You) You are not going to stop all of the issues today by making everything free, you are just going to make those issues explode

2017-07-23 00:36:27 UTC

Patrimony concentration

2017-07-23 00:36:29 UTC

it is, the working class is willing to put up 70 hours a week without overtime

2017-07-23 00:36:41 UTC

You see the richest falling and the middle class climbing

2017-07-23 00:36:41 UTC

we got a welfare class

2017-07-23 00:36:43 UTC

Living in a country where your endgame is a cable subscription and not being in debt is not a fufilling dream

2017-07-23 00:36:50 UTC

How does that make them better?

2017-07-23 00:37:02 UTC

communism can eliminate the "welfare class"

2017-07-23 00:37:05 UTC

because they are willing to sacrifice to grow

2017-07-23 00:37:14 UTC

What?

2017-07-23 00:37:18 UTC

growth is key in all society

2017-07-23 00:37:19 UTC

@WaitFor(You) The welfare class will evolve into the welfare state.

2017-07-23 00:37:20 UTC

They don't grow in anyway

2017-07-23 00:37:25 UTC

stagnation is damnation

2017-07-23 00:37:26 UTC

that isnt true

2017-07-23 00:37:29 UTC

What a pitty he never succeed doing so :/

2017-07-23 00:37:37 UTC

They live their lives content

2017-07-23 00:37:42 UTC

again you do not understand that what i am talking about hasnt even been implemented

2017-07-23 00:37:43 UTC

And do nothing to change it

2017-07-23 00:37:51 UTC

content is fine for them but what about the rest of us

2017-07-23 00:38:02 UTC

Yea yea yeah I know, it wasn't really communism ๐Ÿ˜›

2017-07-23 00:38:06 UTC

are we to idle while they waste resources in a limited vacum

2017-07-23 00:38:15 UTC

@WaitFor(You) That is because it is physically impossible to do so without changing the entire world and changing the mindset of everybody in it.

2017-07-23 00:38:32 UTC

will the endless generations be brought to a close by a billion persons?

2017-07-23 00:38:37 UTC

1 country has the change the whole world

2017-07-23 00:38:40 UTC

But if you know about marxist corpus, you know he predicts the end of capitalism by itself, so why bothering you ?

2017-07-23 00:38:42 UTC

are you a globalist?

2017-07-23 00:38:45 UTC

Hey idiots let me tell you something

2017-07-23 00:38:55 UTC

ban hammer

2017-07-23 00:38:58 UTC

Ever heard of a man by the name Gorbachev?

2017-07-23 00:39:03 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Not at all.

2017-07-23 00:39:39 UTC

i have no idea what you are but you seem to idolize rome and dont have any coherent argument

2017-07-23 00:39:40 UTC

He was the man who ruined the Soviet Union next to the drunk bastard Yeltsin

2017-07-23 00:39:48 UTC

^

2017-07-23 00:39:55 UTC

If it takes one fucking person to ruin a system why support it

2017-07-23 00:39:57 UTC

@WaitFor(You) >He does not get the meaning behind the fasces

2017-07-23 00:40:09 UTC

It will not fucking work if it takes one person to collapse it

2017-07-23 00:40:11 UTC

but the USSR didn't have any help at all

2017-07-23 00:40:21 UTC

They were esentially on their own with the eastern bloc

2017-07-23 00:40:30 UTC

they were embargoed by the west

2017-07-23 00:40:42 UTC

Why would I ever want to work at a job when I get everything free and never have to put any effort in anything?

2017-07-23 00:40:43 UTC

Probably due to the atrocities

2017-07-23 00:40:51 UTC

i think the USSR did pretty ok despite their circumstances

2017-07-23 00:40:56 UTC

The ussr was not a good thing it was only good when lenin was there and even then it still was far from the paradise you want

2017-07-23 00:41:02 UTC

Nazi Germany didnt even last more than 12 years

2017-07-23 00:41:29 UTC

Due to losing a war

2017-07-23 00:41:31 UTC

nazi germany also didnt want to deal with the surrender of its nation

2017-07-23 00:41:34 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Yhea, just put aside the mass starvations, genocide and poverty that happened, and everything is fine.

2017-07-23 00:41:35 UTC

Communism after its collapse will ruin everything

2017-07-23 00:41:38 UTC

Soviet union collapsed on it's own

2017-07-23 00:41:40 UTC

Nazi Germany did have the three most powerful nations in the world at the time going after it in a war that cost millions of lives

2017-07-23 00:41:40 UTC

so they fought to destruction

2017-07-23 00:41:54 UTC

if i cant get food into my country and people starve

2017-07-23 00:42:04 UTC

what a novel concept

2017-07-23 00:42:07 UTC

All counties who had it go to a road of hell

2017-07-23 00:42:07 UTC

yeah but germany could have lost some spoils of war to get a surrender

2017-07-23 00:42:17 UTC

The USSR is large enough to feed itself

2017-07-23 00:42:18 UTC

Sounds like that's why the Berlin Airlift happened

2017-07-23 00:42:19 UTC

Russia doesnt have alot of resources

2017-07-23 00:42:22 UTC

It ruins the people

2017-07-23 00:42:23 UTC

most of it is wasteland

2017-07-23 00:42:26 UTC

russia does

2017-07-23 00:42:31 UTC

since the Soviets wouldn't let food into West Berlin and people starved

2017-07-23 00:42:32 UTC

plenty of them

2017-07-23 00:42:41 UTC

and the neighboring countries dont really have much agricultural resources either

2017-07-23 00:42:44 UTC

@WaitFor(You) Hmm... yet you own the majority of europe, and are the largest country in the world, why still can't you feed your population?

2017-07-23 00:42:45 UTC

That is true Russia has a shit ton of crude oil and gas

2017-07-23 00:42:46 UTC

water, ariable land, material

2017-07-23 00:42:49 UTC

>Ukraine

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