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they were used for political supression
They also lost a lot of infrastructure and had to repair all Eastern Europe
You would literally let a fascist movement topple your government
Because muh principles
Fucking pathetic
They piss on your principles and grave
Stalin was more of a hero than an assassin
He did much wrong, undeniable, but he did greatly more good in comparison
Same with Mao, although Mao didn't have a Trotsky
Are you one of those change the world with kindness type of guy
I kinda believe that humans are inherently good
They are just misguided
we aren't good we just have our own goals
killing masses of people and building a totalitarian regime isnt the way to go about a revolution
We are good, if we see someone slip and fall, we go to help them, not feed on the weakened body
how would it eventually settle down?
The way it did
In soviet Russia lol
???
Right up until they stopped
Still you need more self determination
And immediately got sabotaged
By the west
when exactly did it reach that utopian state
Twice
shouldnt the state wither away after๐ค
That's literally you
The state is needed to protect the people
You're yeltsin / Gorbachev
so keep killing everyone until everyone is a commie?
Oof no
Civilians have done no bad
eventually you want the state gone lol
That's an assumption
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Eventually maybe
๐
But way after capitalism died
the main concern is then freedom
Can't eliminate the state when there are imperialist nations lurking in the shadows
if you kill capitalism
Capitalism grants no freedom
Ah yes
Lmao
Freedom
it doesnt
neither does the state
Freedom of thought and act as long as it doesn't hurt the people is completely fine under a socialist regime
Yeah right up until the nearby warlord enslaves you
That's why you don't give weapons to people
And that's when Mao says that political power comes from the barrel of a gun
And suddenly in China there are no more warlords
Magic
assuming there is no warlords
I know
im assuming
but lets assume
Warlords can rise anytime
No state means someone else will try to seize control
Aka
Warlord who turns your daughter into his sex slave
Brb
It's OK could be worse
>state will protect u against rape
At least there's no state oppressing you
they will arrest you if you kill the rapist
Freedom to rape is the same freedom you're crying about
yes
self governance is better at sustaining itself that the state is
With captialism.
Money gives u rights
Yeah I must say
>rights
I feel a sudden urge to violate people and its all because of the damn no rape laws
capitalism gives you capitalism rights
why would you suddenly violate anyone if there are no state laws
do you go around town thinking damn police stopping me from killing that nigger there
Yes
All the time
Every day
Humans rights don't matter
If u want rights you buy them
The state keeps foiling my plans
In fact u buy everything
yes @tim
there shouldnt be a central authority
you cant always determine what the entire situation is about, most laws end up making little sense and could easily be avoided
Without central law the state collapses @ApplicationBot
Yeah let's just give up
Anprim Gang who up
eventually yes
>anprim
yes @Deleted User
People are not reliable to do want there supposed to
what are they supposed to do
if there is no one to tell them
Well if someone places there wallet in there car to go fill gas
If there's no law against stealing the wallet
Someone will take it
I dont think private property can exist without a state
ancap gang
An average person places there comfort as there highest priority
People don't do bad things to piss u off
They do it because satisfaction
๐ค
people learn to coexist
it's better for everyone
Well if other people are placed highest priority
Than a state could exist without law
People will than coexist
what would the state do then
do you mean like a government?
there will be organization
but a central authority to dictate morality and lock ppl up and all that which most states do nope
The state would be a bridge to other nations
Diplomacy
diplomacy can exist
im not against organization
of course people oraganize
The people are a reflection of the government
should be vice versa at least
that only comes to mob rule then
If it was opposite the government would collapse
well yes
and no
What the government does the people do
If people of the government commit fraud the citizens will commit fraud
The Constitution was meaning less
In capitalism
Money is the law
hierarchy is a problem yes
I'm here
That's why government positions should be only responsabilities and never benefits
N
Wore
word
Mao, we need you now more than ever
Hello
H-hewwo
wttf
If some one steal my wallet or even tries to i should be allowed to merc them
Not that you could or would
I'll merc you and just say you tried to steal my wallet
It'd be both poetic and appropriate
A good way to dispose of someone who cannot comprehend law
Soviets smh
- The soviets are across the vistula, lets wait untill they finish building the bridges instead of the destroyed ones and attack germans simultaneosly?
- No, soviets are bad, lets beat germans on our own so we get all the fame
Peak tankie.
Offered Unruhe $100 to write an article about North Korean internet culture lol. Evasive answer
offer him 500$
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hello comrades
Greetings
hey
comrades
What do you all think of Posadas?
great man - very intelligent and charismatic. knows exactly what is necessary
dude i think the same
imo the only way to ever hope to achieve a proper communist society is by implementing his theory
Fallout is a Posad series.
What do you guys think of accelerationism? I'm talking about guys like nick land and stuff
The Christ church shooter was an accelerationist
Not that I support him I'm just saying
Accelerationism isn't an idealogy it's literally speeding up the inevitable societal collapse
A better question would be. Do want to delay the incoming hell?
@tim if i steal some ones wallet i simply say they gave it to me
The longer you delay the bigger teh hell. so yeah acceleration is good
@tim "Not that you could or would" Try me bitch
chill virgin
this isn't 4chan
Hello
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Tfw no econazbol emote
fags
@tim how can i be virgin if im your daddy ?
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hello brothers
Who tf calls himself "sadsoyboy", its same as saying im retarded
Dear /leftypol/: Today i destroyed a nazi group, by becoming a mod and playing along for a bit... i kicked everyone that was a lower rank than me and blocked all the toxic nazis that where a higher rank, in the end, to rub it in, i put and emoji, wich was stalins laughing face with the name "Get_Gulaged" and left.
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TEB.
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@everyone you're all communist niggers and I hope you all die.
not entirely sure what you expected to happen
R/athiesm
hi
hey guys, so iโve always been pretty liberal but i joined this chat a while ago because i liked socialist tendencies but recently iโve been binge watching hardcore leftist youtube and i feel like my mind is blown but i really want to ask some questions because there are some things im confused about
@ohkaythen Rule #1: if a PoC or especially WoC speaks, you step back, sit down, and listen.
damn
<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***AlphaRW๐#3334 was banned***
when someone decides to raid while firefly is online
wtf you're here too
omg
mindfuck
so much mindfuck right now
@DA GOMMIE JOO you aren't a tavernist right?
nope
okay you can join
I was actually part of the old anti-tavernist intifada before the ceasefire agreement
me too fam
actually met rafiq himself at one point and the guy's a fucking DEFCON 1 autist
lul
@ohkaythen hello
Whats up?
How hard core is hardcore?
Do you watch people with mustaches or you're not on that level yet?
Can we say you're getting redpilled?
Stalin's garderobe was r
pretty sharp
@Firefly no no there was definitely some dudes with mustaches & yes i would say that redpilled would be a good description
Nice. Mustaches are our only hope. Do you talk in voice?
Just joined, I see the christchurch shooting video
I'm staying here
Wtf
yes, communism is an ideology for the bourgeoisie
Because that makes a lot of sense
I think it's supposed to be pointing out how liberal bourgeoisie are trying to divide people with idpol. The small white text makes it most apparent.
@ohkaythen just come in voice chat next time, hope to see you there.
Bourgeoises will do anything to try and keep power, but eventually they will meet their fate.
tgheres a reddit for socialists, a site like reddit
that reminds of reddditk, what's it vcalled?
โTwas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
โBeware the Jabberwock, my son!
The jaws that bite, the claws that catch!
Beware the Jubjub bird, and shun
The frumious Bandersnatch!โ
He took his vorpal sword in hand:
Long time the manxome foe he soughtโ
So rested he by the Tumtum tree,
And stood awhile in thought.
And as in uffish thought he stood,
The Jabberwock, with eyes of flame,
Came whiffling through the tulgey wood,
And burbled as it came!
One, two! One, two! And through and through
The vorpal blade went snicker-snack!
He left it dead, and with its head
He went galumphing back.
โAnd hast thou slain the Jabberwock?
Come to my arms, my beamish boy!
O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!โ
He chortled in his joy.
โTwas brillig, and the slithy toves
Did gyre and gimble in the wabe;
All mimsy were the borogoves,
And the mome raths outgrabe.
Bruh wtf is this outdated Hearthstone meme shit
๐ณ ๐ณ What if we kissed in the offices of the French satirical weekly newspaper Charlie Hebdo in Paris on 7 January 2015 at about 11:30 local time๐ณ
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