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2017-05-10 22:42:55 UTC

How'd you get here Papa

2017-05-10 22:42:55 UTC

no

2017-05-10 22:43:00 UTC

@!papa to answer your question im more socialist, i hate liberals, they arent even leftists

2017-05-10 22:43:27 UTC

i got here from a thread on /pol/ last night

2017-05-10 22:43:28 UTC

y

2017-05-10 22:43:36 UTC

You never talk anymore

2017-05-10 22:43:46 UTC

anymore?

2017-05-10 22:43:50 UTC

hey if there's ever a class war, let's gang up on the Liberals and/or Democrats

2017-05-10 22:43:52 UTC

In the main chat

2017-05-10 22:44:09 UTC

im assuming that its english then

2017-05-10 22:44:14 UTC

If there was a class war it would be a free for all

2017-05-10 22:44:15 UTC

youre talking about

2017-05-10 22:45:13 UTC

If there was a class war it'd be in my best interests and the interests of the state to stop it

2017-05-10 22:45:31 UTC

A people should be united

2017-05-10 22:45:36 UTC

cas do you know me or something kek

2017-05-10 22:45:37 UTC

well i do hate rich kids, mainly cuz they're snobs and think they're better than me cuz they have a rich family

2017-05-10 22:45:58 UTC

It isn't the rich children's fault they are rich

2017-05-10 22:46:01 UTC

Life is a gamble

2017-05-10 22:46:08 UTC

wait wait wait

2017-05-10 22:46:14 UTC

holup lemme talk right quick

2017-05-10 22:46:47 UTC

i dislike the rich kids because they like to think they are better than an average person like myself

2017-05-10 22:46:55 UTC

because they have a rich family

2017-05-10 22:47:03 UTC

UHhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

2017-05-10 22:47:13 UTC

Most contrary to popular belief aren't like that

2017-05-10 22:47:21 UTC

Rich Families tend to be very charitable

2017-05-10 22:47:28 UTC

that's from my own personal experiences

2017-05-10 22:47:44 UTC

there're rich kids at the local HS

2017-05-10 22:48:10 UTC

It may be infuriating to see all of their new clothes, phones and such when you don't have that

2017-05-10 22:48:36 UTC

But if you want to move past that, you should work hard and be a good citizen

2017-05-10 22:48:37 UTC

nah im not jealous, it's a constant annoyance

2017-05-10 22:48:50 UTC

A working citizen is of more use than a citizen who doesn't

2017-05-10 22:48:51 UTC

i like how im livin right now

2017-05-10 22:48:53 UTC

No matter their class

2017-05-10 22:48:54 UTC

i have all i need

2017-05-10 22:49:06 UTC

i dont need no golden yachts and such

2017-05-10 22:49:18 UTC

was a stereotypical example

2017-05-10 22:49:21 UTC

Good for you, you know there are limits

2017-05-10 22:49:29 UTC

And there is

2017-05-10 22:49:38 UTC

What is a man without a heart and soul?

2017-05-10 22:49:53 UTC

of course working citizens are of more use

2017-05-10 22:49:57 UTC

A rich man if he wants to honour himself should help the poor and needy

2017-05-10 22:50:01 UTC

a Scrooge

2017-05-10 22:50:06 UTC

Everyone is family in the country

2017-05-10 22:50:22 UTC

When a man see's another man down, he should treat him as if he was his own brother

2017-05-10 22:50:37 UTC

Because we are all brothers and sisters under the flag of our country

2017-05-10 22:50:39 UTC

is this a war speach

2017-05-10 22:50:42 UTC

speech*

2017-05-10 22:50:55 UTC

i mean i agree but sounds like something i'd hear in a movie

2017-05-10 22:51:08 UTC

It's traditionalism

2017-05-10 22:51:24 UTC

Every man and woman in a country are a family

2017-05-10 22:51:28 UTC

why invest in stocks when there are other ways to make money

2017-05-10 22:51:31 UTC

We help eachother like family

2017-05-10 22:51:41 UTC

even i know you can flip things for a profit

2017-05-10 22:51:46 UTC

runescape taught me that

2017-05-10 22:52:06 UTC

With the right idea and public interest, anything can rocket into money

2017-05-10 22:52:20 UTC

Look at those blasted fidget spinners

2017-05-10 22:53:09 UTC

i cant ever tell if you're sarcastic on the internet you just gotta tell me

2017-05-10 22:53:15 UTC

Is everything not meaningless without human subjective emotions of meaning?

2017-05-10 22:53:59 UTC

those spinners are the stupidest things ive seen only because kids without anxiety or habits or anything are using them

2017-05-10 22:54:24 UTC

i got myself a cheap ass fidget cube to stop a hand habit

2017-05-10 22:54:25 UTC

Stupid, but made a lot of money

2017-05-10 22:54:27 UTC

no not masturbation

2017-05-10 22:56:27 UTC

It's a natural process of boyhood

2017-05-10 22:56:43 UTC

Haha

2017-05-10 22:56:43 UTC

lmfao

2017-05-10 22:58:13 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/312000404026163200/C_eJtsyXcAUd_z1.png

2017-05-10 22:59:37 UTC

Osama Bin Carden

2017-05-10 22:59:54 UTC

i dont have any other good names for car jihadists

2017-05-10 23:04:30 UTC

im eating ass

2017-05-10 23:04:48 UTC

I'm just a nigga with a rocket launcher

2017-05-10 23:04:53 UTC

lmao

2017-05-10 23:04:58 UTC

FUCK that was actually funny

2017-05-10 23:06:26 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/312002471801389056/justanigga.jpg

2017-05-10 23:06:36 UTC

mmm a chocolatey ass

2017-05-10 23:12:40 UTC

Is being an asshole the only way to hide your crippling depression?

2017-05-10 23:12:48 UTC

it is for me

2017-05-10 23:13:01 UTC

maybe we're all depressed and dont know it

2017-05-10 23:13:07 UTC

or maybe some know it

2017-05-10 23:13:16 UTC

Despair code

2017-05-10 23:47:51 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/312012898325102605/scaled_full_b38a12015a22e9b5f8f7.jpg

2017-05-11 01:38:40 UTC

I find it mind-blowing how China is now more capitalist than America.

2017-05-11 02:14:25 UTC

Why are you the way you are

2017-05-11 02:27:20 UTC
2017-05-11 02:54:08 UTC

Is this the correc address for leftypol? https://8ch.pl/leftypol/

2017-05-11 03:24:13 UTC

@Firefly Thanks. What other websites do you guys use?

2017-05-11 03:26:19 UTC

@Deleted User there are few leftypols. One in Brazil another in Russia. Americans made tenth of small, unorganized leftypols.

2017-05-11 03:31:37 UTC

<@297127436737314827> I am being thorough.

2017-05-11 03:35:38 UTC

I do not understand you criticism.

2017-05-11 03:41:47 UTC

legion will prevail

2017-05-11 03:43:43 UTC

its a moto of anonymous

2017-05-11 03:44:23 UTC

One of them

2017-05-11 03:46:50 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/312073038944403456/anonymous_legion_england_renai_2560x1600_miscellaneoushi.com.jpg

2017-05-11 03:53:39 UTC

@Firefly "I would sell my mother for 'V for Vendetta - Part 2"

2017-05-11 03:55:22 UTC

It is a Zizek quote. What happens after the revolution? Revolution is the easy part.

2017-05-11 03:55:59 UTC

@Deleted User Party implements its strategy and tactics.

2017-05-11 03:58:51 UTC

@Firefly Do you have an opinion of Slovej Zizek?

2017-05-11 04:01:36 UTC

@Deleted User I think he uses PR tactic to make himself known through political left. Selling his books. He is more of petite bourgeois professional psychologist than anything else.

2017-05-11 04:02:33 UTC

Very low understanding of Marxist theory

2017-05-11 04:03:04 UTC

@Firefly That is a good observation.

2017-05-11 04:08:17 UTC

@Deleted User are you NatSoc, Fascist?

2017-05-11 04:16:36 UTC

@Firefly Not really, not anymore. I still like Wehrmacht aesthetics though.

2017-05-11 04:18:06 UTC

Fascism is viscerally satisfying but it does not withstand deep analysis.

2017-05-11 04:19:25 UTC

For me the connection is spiritual.

2017-05-11 04:22:23 UTC

It still shapes a lot of my thought patterns and intuitive values.

2017-05-11 04:25:36 UTC

@Deleted User you are into Strasserism? Karl Jung all the way?

2017-05-11 04:30:37 UTC

I would say I am a Fascist. I think Strasserism is redundant. I believe that a strong state can prevent the problems of Capitalism. I liken Fascism to building a giant moat around the castle nation. International market forces that do not serve the state are forbidden.

2017-05-11 04:31:42 UTC

Theoretically of course. In reality I have no pathway to implement a Fascist state.

2017-05-11 04:37:27 UTC

On Carl Jung I have little interest. I prefer the likes of Martin Heidegger for informing a Fascist worldview.

2017-05-11 04:40:10 UTC

The shortcoming of Fascism is that it is not international and has no 'end game'. When Fascism destroys its last enemy, it dies along with it.

2017-05-11 04:47:45 UTC

In order to reconcile this, you have to become more and more self-destructive, the ultimate ends is to die in a blaze of glory and there is no further question about it. Where someone asks 'what is the goal of Fascism', the answer is defeatist. Fascism is the the fetish of struggle and human sacrifice.

2017-05-11 04:53:30 UTC

It refuses to answer the highest aims. It posits a brutal honesty: we are born to fight and to die, stop asking stupid questions.

2017-05-11 04:55:00 UTC

After all, Hitler was an artist, not a technician.

2017-05-11 05:16:49 UTC

Nice, by the depth of you questions yesterday I thought you are much smarter than that.

2017-05-11 05:17:04 UTC

Haha

2017-05-11 05:18:32 UTC

Tell us more about Heidegger

2017-05-11 05:18:57 UTC

Oh dear...

2017-05-11 05:18:57 UTC

Is he better than Dugin?

2017-05-11 05:20:17 UTC

I've read some fascists. Was not imperessed. So far Dugin been better than the rest

2017-05-11 05:23:41 UTC

I'm on mobile

2017-05-11 05:24:10 UTC

I'll do later

2017-05-11 05:31:33 UTC

@Zielgerรคt what do you think of Marxism? Did you read Marx?

2017-05-11 05:32:02 UTC
2017-05-11 05:32:46 UTC

<:svt:312032528129327106>

2017-05-11 05:35:13 UTC

@Firefly I read bits and pieces from marxists.org. I am hear to learn. I particular respect Stalin and his approach. I was surprised to learn that he is not universally hated by the Left, or not only ironically supported.

2017-05-11 05:36:13 UTC

@Deleted User what is a death tall in gulags?

2017-05-11 05:36:25 UTC

I don't really care.

2017-05-11 05:36:40 UTC

Approximate

2017-05-11 05:37:10 UTC

I don't know, a few million. Did I pass?

2017-05-11 05:37:11 UTC

<:st:312054710221930508>

2017-05-11 05:37:35 UTC
2017-05-11 05:38:19 UTC

Our estimates of 600k both criminal and not.

2017-05-11 05:39:01 UTC

OK. You have to realise I am desensitised to moral arguments.

2017-05-11 05:39:17 UTC

It is always contextual.

2017-05-11 05:39:31 UTC

Knowledge is important

2017-05-11 05:39:59 UTC

You're right. How many jews did Hitler gas?

2017-05-11 05:40:02 UTC

American children books say 40 million

2017-05-11 05:40:47 UTC

@Deleted User none. He tryed to get rid of them by asking them to leave.

2017-05-11 05:40:59 UTC

I'm impressed.

2017-05-11 05:41:21 UTC

I'm not

2017-05-11 05:42:20 UTC

This is very new to my experience. OK, 600,000 deaths in gulag.

2017-05-11 05:43:08 UTC

I think we have a massive antiauthoritarian propaganda against both left and right

2017-05-11 05:43:52 UTC

What are the ways to fight it?

2017-05-11 05:45:52 UTC

When do we send libertarian filth to camps?

2017-05-11 05:47:15 UTC

You know how to cut right to it, don't you?

2017-05-11 05:48:04 UTC

<:caring:312066184948350976> we have to do something about it.

2017-05-11 05:48:25 UTC

I'm thinking...

2017-05-11 06:22:05 UTC

First you have to identity what you are fighting against. The responce depends on the antithesis of it.

2017-05-11 06:23:18 UTC

People who struggle are shaped by what they are fighting against.

2017-05-11 06:30:41 UTC

This is why it is so easy to divide the Left and Right, and even divides within each. Groups are shooting at different goals in terms of who they think they are fighting against. If there is no agreement on the cause, it is impossible to fight against.

2017-05-11 06:31:51 UTC

Whether or not there is a final 'boogeyman' is not important. Consensus is important.

2017-05-11 07:17:35 UTC

Normal people like individual liberty and they're only going to warm up to Protectionism.

2017-05-11 07:18:42 UTC

>implying normies possess individual agency

2017-05-11 07:19:26 UTC

Do you, define it

2017-05-11 07:19:58 UTC

People like to have land and easily get things they want done

2017-05-11 07:21:00 UTC

Authoritarianism doesn't happen in America, even now the corporate foreign lobbied government is despised

2017-05-11 07:21:14 UTC

Because it oversteps on everyone

2017-05-11 07:22:19 UTC

@Deleted User and what we have to fight against?

2017-05-11 07:23:26 UTC

People do not break the mold because it is too costly. This social compliance is evidence of passivism. Rational behaviour from an atomised perspective, but this is not reality. Individualism is ironically the path to exploitation

2017-05-11 07:26:22 UTC

@Firefly You tell me. The enemy depends on your ideology. Is there a way to get consensus between different political ideology? I don't know. But it is a line in the sand. And getting bearings in the 'competition of ideas' is an important starting point.

2017-05-11 07:28:25 UTC

@Deleted User I'm asking you. I may have a completely different vision from you.

2017-05-11 07:31:32 UTC

Personally I have little ambition to 'fix' anything. I was entertaining your question on how to bring the libertarians into camps. Your question implied there was common ground between left and right authoritarianism. Thinking about this I was hesitant to say anything specific about activism in the world, because in the current climate it is easy to go from 0 to life imprisonment by mere suggestion.

2017-05-11 07:33:12 UTC

I guess I do not know enough about your political stance to answer in more detail.

2017-05-11 07:33:31 UTC

@Firefly What is your stance on 'Socialism in One Nation'?

2017-05-11 07:34:49 UTC

Stalin thought we can establish a country that will later unite the world.

2017-05-11 07:35:16 UTC

I agree. We can do it, yes. @Deleted User

2017-05-11 07:41:40 UTC

@Firefly In this case perhaps we could get a consensus on the strong nation state. I do not like Mussolini, but he did comment on his admiration of Stalin, saying the Soviet Union was Slavic Nationalism. The full nationalisation of that society is very bold. Perhaps if Fascism was allowed to mature and analysis its own weaknesses, it too would look more towards full state control. But to do this from the onset was seen as too costly for the relatively developed Europe.

2017-05-11 07:47:12 UTC

@Deleted User strong nation state may be a priority, yes. The unity is possible on an anti-imperialist basis. If you support our anti-imperialist world crusade.

2017-05-11 07:47:48 UTC

<:af:312037249166606337>

2017-05-11 07:50:53 UTC

I guess what I am really getting is a pretty radical position. You have to disrupt people's comfort zones and force them into take an a side on an absolute question.
Whatever the policy, is has to have real consequences. The individual will not take notice until he is personally effected.

2017-05-11 07:51:29 UTC

Lets disrupt

2017-05-11 07:56:02 UTC

In my opinion, politics and government has lost respect. Politics has lost its sense of urgency and consequence.

2017-05-11 07:56:27 UTC

Question: is your vision of the proletariat an 'us vs them' idea?

2017-05-11 07:57:46 UTC

The way to break into the Right wing mentality is to present a strong character that commands respect.

2017-05-11 07:58:35 UTC

What is the character of the proletariat?

2017-05-11 07:59:58 UTC

What I like about 'Socialism in One Nation' is that it counts its pieces. It makes clear what is friend and foe.

2017-05-11 08:00:24 UTC

That dichotomy is how you make people choose a side.

2017-05-11 08:01:39 UTC

Alligence to the Party is the way to solve dichtomy

2017-05-11 08:02:41 UTC

You have to show clearly what the consequences will be if people choose the wrong side and make it credible enough for them to address it. Whether the threat is real or imagined doesn't matter. It brings the struggle into people's consciousness.

2017-05-11 08:03:33 UTC

That just technicalities. We should use every way possible.

2017-05-11 08:05:09 UTC

Sure. I am saying you have to force the issue, or it will get no where. At this point Left Authoritarianism seems pretty Fascist to me! <:troll:312064734113431553>

2017-05-11 08:07:05 UTC

I'm not against of the use of force against any fascist without an alligence.

2017-05-11 08:07:09 UTC

<:troll_king:312064227542040576>

2017-05-11 08:07:36 UTC

In my view, Fascism is built around the Volksgeist, the 'spirit of the people'. It is interchangable whatever it is. Where Marxism fills that is not for me to judge! It is all the same.

2017-05-11 08:08:57 UTC

What a weird place I find myself.

2017-05-11 08:13:33 UTC

The more I think about it, the weirder it gets. Marxism resolves the eternal struggle between ingroup and outgroup by making the ingroup everyone. That is the same as the final victory. Very admirable.

2017-05-11 08:15:24 UTC

The Right often debates and counters with the idea that the human hardware can not handle such objective notions. Not yet. The overcoming of man's shortcomings is implicit in a Communist vision of the future. This is a very Nietzsche idea.

2017-05-11 08:16:22 UTC

'The New Soviet Man' is an interesting formation of this idea.

2017-05-11 09:24:14 UTC

Overcoming is important, yes? Clone factories would advance faster than computers. <:p_:312057780317978625>

2017-05-11 09:30:21 UTC
2017-05-11 11:22:57 UTC

Welcome to /leftypol/ a low-moderation channel. Feel yourself free here.

2017-05-11 11:23:33 UTC

i'm soo glad i woke up and got the fuck out of antifa. ijs

2017-05-11 11:24:02 UTC

Antifa is fucking retarded you better stay tf outta that shit

2017-05-11 11:24:34 UTC

they'd hospitalise me if they knew where I'm at now

2017-05-11 11:25:35 UTC

i didnt even know reverse lobotomies were possible. Life is good

2017-05-11 11:26:13 UTC

don't hate, i'm just tryna bait. hail victory

2017-05-11 11:27:37 UTC

Whats wrong with antifa?

2017-05-11 11:29:33 UTC

Bunch of ancoms who act more fascist than "communist"

2017-05-11 11:36:54 UTC

Quite a few German Antifa belong to the anti-German movement which means they long for the destruction of Germany and support both the USA and Israel.

2017-05-11 11:37:23 UTC

Antifa means fighting against those you deem fascist. It doesnโ€™t have much to do with a political ideology.

2017-05-11 11:51:32 UTC

The American Antifa are just a bunch of amcoms, or some sort of anarchists

2017-05-11 11:51:45 UTC

Also they're cucks

2017-05-11 11:52:59 UTC

There's even video of some beating on innocent people, and then there's video of the "Anti-Antifa", if you will, fighting the Antifa

2017-05-11 11:53:10 UTC

It's funny shit cuz most of them are poons

2017-05-11 12:55:54 UTC

American kids are funny, I've met them a lot. They lack authority, discipline and ability to organize. But I think we can change it by organizing them.

2017-05-11 12:56:50 UTC

@Tenta German antifa supporting imperialism?

2017-05-11 13:01:39 UTC

@BofaFett I'm sure they are less fascist than our friend @Deleted User

2017-05-11 13:01:54 UTC

@Firefly , the ones that are anti-Germans do.

2017-05-11 13:02:26 UTC

@Tenta why would they be against Germany?

2017-05-11 13:03:08 UTC

Germany and Germany embody imperialism in their opinion. This movement began in the 1960s, and is basically the German version of US white guilters.

2017-05-11 13:03:12 UTC

Wait a minute. Are you referring to American Antifa or all American Socialists

2017-05-11 13:03:17 UTC

What about solidarity with Palestine?

2017-05-11 13:03:37 UTC

Anti-Germans unironically support everything Israel and the USA do. You can even hear them shout "Bomber Harris do it again".

2017-05-11 13:03:37 UTC

@BofaFett are they any different?

2017-05-11 13:03:39 UTC

I think Palestines land was stolen by Israel and the allies

2017-05-11 13:04:01 UTC

@Firefly that's a bit rude to compare me to a bunch of poons

2017-05-11 13:04:46 UTC

They were essentially stolen after the Ottoman Empire collapsed and America imperialistically annexed a whole region of land right where the Palestinians were living.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/312213445040930817/26uyp.jpg

2017-05-11 13:05:39 UTC

Israel is taking after its imperialist ally

2017-05-11 13:06:13 UTC

@BofaFett <:caring:312066184948350976> didn't know you are so touchy.

2017-05-11 13:06:18 UTC

Middle Eastern Manifest Destiny

2017-05-11 13:07:18 UTC

@Firefly I just don't like getting disrespected by my fellow Comrades, I'm not gonna go cry about it and post a long paragraph on Tumblr or whatever

2017-05-11 13:07:50 UTC

It is funny tho how Israel defended against other middle eastern attacks after ww2

2017-05-11 13:07:59 UTC

Only cuz they had support tho

2017-05-11 13:08:37 UTC

@Engels there are American comrades. Like APL. But they are very small.

2017-05-11 13:09:30 UTC

I do respect them a little

2017-05-11 13:10:12 UTC

What about the ones not aligned with a group, but are against Antifa and those fagel liberals

2017-05-11 13:11:57 UTC

Most people here don't know theory. Most kids outside of antifa are syndicalist abominations. They are the reason we don't have a world movement.

2017-05-11 14:45:05 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/312238694763462656/say-the-whole-world-must-learn-of-our-peaceful-ways-78308352.png

2017-05-11 14:47:10 UTC

When an ideology sees separation as an illusion, it proceeds to treat everything as such. Invasion and cooperation become indistinguishable.

2017-05-11 15:10:35 UTC

I'm not reading that

2017-05-11 15:13:17 UTC

I don't write a lot my man

2017-05-11 15:13:26 UTC

I'm not about that life

2017-05-11 15:13:51 UTC

also, fucked in what way about what?

2017-05-11 15:14:37 UTC

Suddenly its not worth your time?

2017-05-11 15:14:49 UTC

But how can I respond of you don't tell me

2017-05-11 15:15:03 UTC

there has to be an argument cmon man

2017-05-11 15:16:21 UTC

I am focused on my family never said I wasn't

2017-05-11 15:17:00 UTC

I care about them, but they are of the conservative side and don't listen to me

2017-05-11 15:17:08 UTC

So it can be a struggle but that's okay

2017-05-11 15:17:17 UTC

Time is so i have

2017-05-11 15:17:24 UTC

All* not so

2017-05-11 15:18:52 UTC

*my name Jeff*

2017-05-11 15:19:35 UTC

UHHHHHHHHHHHH

2017-05-11 15:19:44 UTC

got any ๐Ÿ…ฑepis

2017-05-11 15:20:01 UTC

No make it italicized you dingus

2017-05-11 15:20:12 UTC

*autistic screeching*

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