I have a question to ask.

What's one good thing communism has ever done to you guys?

Free education.

badly printed propoganda from 1951

lead the fundamental movement that allowed social democracy to become a thing and evovled into what it is today

Gave me the means of production

but this hasn't happened (yet, hopefully)

SOON

And what about capitalism? What has capitalism ever done to you guys?

provided civilisation as we know it

executed the monarchists

also imperialism, I'm on the right side of it

Communism is pretty cool

Imperialism is okay as long as I benefit from it tbh

wrong

@superrank10 destroyed USSR.

@Qaysar correct

It is factually correct

imperialism is completely justified as long as I gain from it

guys, Democracy 3 is on sale now

you can get everything 80% off

sounds like a meme

democracy doesnt work

they have an extremist DLC too

so you can do ethnic cleansing presumably

Kropotkinsky?

Kropotkin-Sensei

im looking for this man

have any of you seen him?

he goes by the name brother hao

momento to chairman mao

These leftists are very very low energy.

They're not sending their best people.

hmm?

@Qaysar Lenin said "He who does not work shall not eat", it's apparently a parable from the Bible.

where the fuck is brother hao

i know hes here

you fucking scumfucs

question is which one of you paperbag graduates are hiding him

@Firefly Lol that image with khokhol.
Hitler fled to the Argentine tho.

shame thi lefty/pol/ isn't as good as the others i was on

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Join my autism server

@everyone

No

@National Trotskyist why you bring up bible/

¡Jeb!

Me llano jeb

Llano

Llamo

my name jeb

@Qaysar Because it originally comes from there and was used by Lenin :P.

Jeb Bush

Jeb means "Oh fuck" in Slavic tongues

Kek

Roger Stone's book about Jeb is fuckin hilarious tbh

Never read it

It's by stone so it probably is hilarious

I'd go to one of stone's swinger parties tbh

vicious bantz i bet

Nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition

you can smell them a mile awauy

just liek the french

They also probably are to lazy to actually perform the Inquisition

Too

idk

the spanish would not inquisit, but the muslims sure the fuck are

So its more like ITS ISLAMOPHOBIC TO EXPECT THE ISLAMIC INQUISITION

If you speak of that Inquisition the politically correct Inquisition appears

no one should fear the pc inquisition

all it takes is a few people to stand up to that cuckoldry and it'll fold

Only liberal cucks enjoy PC

Every other ideology suffers

I get called a Nazi for communist symbolism logically

Kek

KURWA PIEDALAL

?

MUJAHIDEEN

COMMIES ARE FUCKING BRAINWASHED

HEIL HITLER

1488

1488

1488

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Communism promotes efficiency

At the somewhat degradation of the people but evens out with economic prosperity

Social practices both determine the characteristics of the individual and give him or her an idea of the range of properties that he or she can have, and of the limits of each individual.

https://youtu.be/ITVadLwiJG0

The belief that we are self-conscious agents, we derive this belief in the course of learning what it is to be a daughter, a schoolchild, black, a steelworker, a councillor, and so forth.

But we are self-conscious. It is a quality of the matter.

Reflection is a normal condition.

Matter reflects its own self.

Gets consciousness.

Happens all the time.

Subjectivity is a form of ideology.

In order for a person to identify as a Christian, he must first already be a subject; that is, by responding to God's call and following His rules, he affirms himself as a free agent, the author of the acts for which he assumes responsibility. We cannot recognize ourselves outside ideology, and in fact, our very actions reach out to this overarching structure.

We acquire our identities by seeing ourselves mirrored in ideologies.

>Subjectivity is a form of ideology.

Ideology can be idealist or materialist. Materialist ideology reflects reality better.

Subjectivity is a quality of matter.

Everything is subjective and objective.

What I wrote was only according to Louis Althusser and his structural Marxism.

It seems he doesn't know diamat.

Every matter is subjective. Not only human.

Men both subjective and conscious.

Gaining subjectivity on a higher level.

I am getting distracted by psychoanalysis. I looked into it because it was referred to into lecture series on Marxism. I will ignore it. Back to Hegel for me then.

>everything, absolutely everything is subjective

well fuck, it is.

It actually is. Our senses could be tricking us, the entirity of the world and our feelings could all be constructed by something or someone else.

Yeah we aren't capable of grasping information outside of a subjective experience, if you want to get right down to it

@Deleted User psychoanalysis is fine to study. I see no harm. But there is so much literature on Marxism you can easily read whole life and not be there.

@Konduct Romans 2.7 subjective experience way be in intellectual field beyond your personal senses. Diamat makes it more objective.

>Yeah we aren't capable of grasping information outside of a subjective experience

Marxism makes you capable.

There are many so called Western Marxists like Lukacs who were against Soviet Marxism.

>Marxism

Any they revisionists?

>Lets

>yo

*you

>be

>objective

*Claps*

@Anglican If you learn about it.

I learned about Marxism and I was delusional while a communist.

Objectivity does not just come from an ideology. It comes from trusting your senses and what you can directly observe, and what those you can trust and what they've observed. It's deeper that.

*than that.

A thousand times, and we can never be objective on what is objective and what isn't.

There is just what we can observe shows us.

Science can show what is closer to objectivity though.

Of what is observable by humanity. That is.

That's what's interesting, we could all just be in the same big dream.

Humanity is not static.

This could all be generated by our collective conciousness.

I know that.

What is knowable keeps developing.

Of course.

So we advance towards the objective and material.

*But, is the material all that matters?*

Thats a serious question. Is this matter which makes us up on this place in our existance all that matters?

Or are we something more then this?

Something much more

No.

No to which statement?

All.

@Deleted User Many of them. Some of them were never connected to Marxism-Leninism. They were revolutionaries or thinkers of a time, but not essentially Marxist. Marxism has many planes. Some Marxist don't even go outside of philosophical field or their specialty. Most western Marxists are highly specialized and never have any common ground with other Marxist. This ideology is relatively new and more advance. It requires more effort too. So a lot of questions are not solved. And ideology is not completely formed too. You can't make same propaganda to workers 1917 in Russia and to petite bourgeoisie in Australia 2017

What?

>The material is not that all matters

>We are just material

Purpose is vague idealism.

The best example of the truly Objective would be Mathematics

Well, yeah.

But even then, we developed that by our own terms.

😉

But even the mind of the greatest mathematician is still left to grasp Mathematics with his Subjective brain

I mean

@Konduct Romans 2.7 Mathematics are too abstract and specialized. They cannot be objective.

what if aliens have 12 numbers

instead of 10?

We did not create Mathematics, we discovered it.

@Firefly#9983 Thanks for that great responce. So focus of theory as well as practice.

That'd be a dozzy

2+2 = 4. This is objective.

Not if their God-Emperor says it equals 5

There's nothing specialized about an equation.

*Okay*

@Konduct Romans 2.7 it is true. Not objective.

But that decree of the God-Emperor is irrelevant to reality

There is no object.

*Fine, you're right*

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kek, active moderation bots

there doesn't need to be an object for a construct to be objective

>Social construct

...No

Guys, ideology is just a social contruct.

Mathematics is ideology now?

Yes

Totally what I meant.

@Konduct Romans 2.7 Yes.

But seriouslly, is it censoring the word 'nigga'?

...How is Math an ideology?

I guess not

The study of mathematics does not leave room for conjecture

Methods may vary, but the answers remain the same.

Actually not.

In the past, before we had centralised rules for the sequence of equations

sometimes, people from different nations WOULD come back with different anwsers from the same equation.

2+2=4

The international standard is now PMDAS I think

That's not all an equation is

every culture and nation in history would get that answer