I gotta agree with the commie here

corporations should have all their power taken away from the gov

internet should be free

Yea

@Brickiest Brick do you want internet to turn into cable

do you really want that

if so fuck you

but

uhhhhh

corporations have no power

yes they do

no they dont

lo

its been increasing ever since trump has been in power

not with antitrust laws

power over what exactly

what kind of power

internet

Which the government makes

what information you get

what the gov does

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and all lobying

end it

end lobbying

No government = no restrictions

but wasnt the internet given to corporations before 2015

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Yes but net neutrality is something else

They can make things slower now

you will be unable to get info

So u pay more

I can charge you to get news

i say we should also end cable providers as well i should be able to watch anything i want

and no government is gonna stop me

jesus where are the righties on this server when you need them

corporations only have power through monopolies

@Brickiest Brick it hurts the free market to

the only regulations a government should have

are regulations preventing monopolies

and related cases

this prevents monopolies

yes

otherwise i can restrict information about the opponent

net neutrality prevents monoplies

🤔

no it creates monopolies

how does it prevent them

you moron

because i can go anywhere i want

do you even know what net neutrality does

and no one can stop me

no one

jesus fuck

i choose where i go

we're not talking about net neutrality

yes we are

your not gonna charge me more for internet

I'm sory

do you agree that we should have antitrust and anti-monopoly laws

but no

yes as long as i doesn't infringe on personal freedom

what are you communist

nope i want to be able to do what i want when i want

to whoever i want

so what are you

I'm me

capitalist then

i do believe a free market works

but only when there is valid information out there

and that's what net neutrality help provides

no it doesn't

it keeps companies from selling me "snake oil"

and censoring info about it

by slowing the info to hell

okay

i'm using a private company's services

they reserve the right to sell my data

the only reason they don't is because your a "good boy"

they probably manage a lot of users aswell

and mostly use bots

if you know anything about the free market and basic economics you would be against net neutrality

competition

what does competition do

i care more about freedom than competition

its values

can you tell me what competition entails

profit

and better lifestyles

not necessarily freedom

ok

ie Pinochet

now how do businesses make a profit

he had to be REMOVED

2 Ways people buy them knowingly or conned into it

now would an organization willingly do anything that turns consumers away from buying their product

not always it depends what the companies want especially if there is a government involved

lets say the gov decides to pay the companies in order to censor something it don't like

it would be technically legal

what you're talking about is corporatism my dude

i'm talking about capitalism

free market

so i'll ask again

would an organization willingly do anything that turns consumers away from buying their product

America isn't capitalist

its corporatist

corporatism is the evolution of capitalism

that is true i know this

and it shouldn't be corporatism

that's why we should support net neutrality

it should go back to capitalism

no

we shouldn't

because it is corporatist

we cant fix the smaller things

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until the big thing is fixed

do you honestly support corporatism

corporations con and steal

with gov funds

and than suck off the govs tits

what do you think

do you support corporatism

no

i hate the idea of a corporation

ok

so shouldn't you be against net neutrality

i mean

the FCC = government

not in this current circumstance

and the FCC controls the internet service providers

so

because i see how the gov can use the freedom to censor things it doesn't like

would that not be some form of corporatism

you are contradicting your values by supporting net neutrality

you do not realize this

corporatism cant be abolished until a government is ablolished

false

the gov would take advenatage of it

government can stop giving money to businesses

and wed have a dictator

i don't want a dictator

trump is trying to stop the corporatism

no more money

no more bailouts

China doesn't have it

and look at china

they use such a system to create the great firewall

if i can censor you

there is problems

my only policy is all censorship should die

and we should return to classic democracy

you cant charge a company more since they get more business you will be corrupt

people prefer power of money

but you do not understand

it is not the corporations with the power

it is the government enabling them

if we take the power away from government

the corporations would not have so much power themselves

since we have a corporatist system

that is how it works

corporations and gov aren't different

they are the same thing

only in corporatism

it is

if the corps are supporting it

you should be against it

they want to remove net neutrality for a reason

and its not in our favour

did you know that all the big corporations are for net neutrality

google, microsoft, apple, you name it

facebook and twitter are too

all of em

Yea net neutrality is a good thing not having it is bad

but all the service providers are against it

corporations support it

you literally just said

corporations are BAD

Service providers are also corporations

but the majority of corporations in the US support it

literally the only corporations that do not support it

are the ISP corporations

because it benefits them

its about gov power

this is common sense

anyone with any intellect could see this

>this is about government power

your turning America into china

and egypy

>repealing net neutrality reduces government power

*Egypt

no it doesnt

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it just gives isp power

and restricts info

isp =/= government

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Yes

the republican party supports it

they are the government

it gives them power

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so uh

republican party supports something

trump is a corporate owner

instantly means it's part of the government

mmk

good logic

why would a corporate owner hurt corporations

he wants to benefit himself

he always has

because he's the president and he's not loyal to his business

like every other politican

BS

you idiot

that's the most bs thing i ever heard

hes lying

jesus h christ

dude

wouldn't you as a father want to help your kids

think about this using common sense for a second

let me explain this to you

i am

if he were doing this for himself

its obvious that any restriction to info needs to die

simple

i don't care about economy

i just want freedom

then why would he pit literally half the country against him and have people boycott his businesses

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not for money makers

because hes an idiot who went bankrupt multiple times

>he's only out for himself

humans aren't rational actors

>but he's also a bad businessman

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where is this logic coming from

i expected more from a capitalist

look it would benefit him

to remove it

it would benefit isps

he is in there pockets

how is he in their pockets

they funded his campaign

?

that's corruption

?

proof?

simple who he put in power

someone from verizion