I don't fully know why, but some semblance of free will is important.

Unfortunately, at that point, things get more esoteric.

Wouldn’t a person who is doing something they’re interested in do a better job?

Not always, brick.

Rather than being forced to do it even if they dislike it?

Well, sure. Yeah.

But passions don't always make good careers either.

That is true and I’m aware of that fact

@Brickiest Brick Now that is a good question, my answer would be, if they do good at it, and are productive when working at it, and do their best job when doing so, then sure, let them at it.

Yeah I will agree with that then

However, if what they produce is still shit, then that is an issue they will have to sort out, either by practice, or by seeking something different.

Give an example of that scenario

So, happy to see that "radical centrist" can actually agree with you on something?

Even if he doesn't appreciate things being perfect?

@Brickiest Brick It is a little hard to describe in full detail, but say a person who works passionately at a job, but the item they produce at a factory is low quality, and he takes longer to produce the item, then he would have to practice until he became better at doing his job, or he would have to persue another job that he is compitent at.

That's not entirely different from what I see around here.

Well my view is this, if they are really and truly interested and dedicated to doing their job, eventually they will excel at it

Yes, practice does make perfect after all.

So if this person is making a shit product now, in time he may make the best product if he really likes doing it

Yes, that is what I am talking about, when I say that he should be given time to practice to become compitent in producing it.

Is there some kind of threshold or balance system for determining how “well-suited” a person is to assign them to a job?

Like in fascism how does the government determine where a person will work

If there is no free choice

@Brickiest Brick Remember what I said earlier about the product being graded on how much it benefits society.

Yes I do remember

What I meant to say, is that when a person is given a task to produce a product, it should be graded on how much it can benefit society, if it is inadequte, then they would be tasked with practicing to become better at their job, and if they still cannot do it, then they would have to be given a different job that they are better at.

People practice at different rates, though

It may take one person 1 month to create the ideal product while another may take 6 months

Mhm.

That is why the amount of time we would have to give to people would have to be based on what they are as a person.

AKA, on a case by case basis.

Alright so what you’re saying is freedom of choice is allowed?

At least to an extent

A limited extent, but yes, it takes some freedom for a person to realize what they are best at.

Why would this idea be worse under a capitalistic system

Would the person not choose the job they would in a fascist society

Well, when they reached the age when they needed to begin providing for themselves, they would be assigned by the government to whatever job they worked the best in, though in some cases people may have to work jobs they could be happier in, if they work their best and did what they were best in, then they would benefit society much better as a whole.

One thing that should be noted, is that when people are forced upon one path, they focus much more on that one path, in order to become better at it.

I do not recall if I read that from iron march, or mein kampf, but it is still worthy of the notation, regardless.

That makes a lot of sense I will say that I agree

But now there's the question of how this type of government works

If it's all up to the government and the government supplies all the jobs and materials, is it really possible to sustain this in the long term?

Because in a socialist or communist government nationalizing industry usually leads to disaster, so how would this type work

Ah yes, this is where the big divergence in fascism and communism comes into play, where a worker in a communist or socialist government is given everything they are needed by a factory, (Or at least that is the theory.), a fascist worker is obligated to provide for himself, one way or another, the state would play very little role in actually giving people supplies/materials for living.

Ah ok

So would there be private businesses? How would government regulate businesses and supply jobs?

Private business would exist in very little capacity, at most it would be trading/bargaining groups, the government would keep an extremely watchful eye on them, in order to make sure they do not begin scamming people.

How would the public businesses work

Everyone would just be working for the government then

In a sense; they would be, to put it bluntly.

How would the economy work exactly

Would the government regulate the economy

And how do workers get paid

The economy would most likely be in a complete whreck after the helter skelter, with global trade not being seen for an extremely long time, it is likely that the economy itself will be primarily localized and agrigarian. The government would control most if not all of the economy as a whole, workers would be paid with a currency not based off of hardly anything other than the amount of money that is produced, workers would use it to exchange for items that they would need for living.

So there is no more class system like in capitalism

No low, middle and high classes

There would be, but there would be little difference.

Hierarchy is important after all.

So you'd be in a higher class based on the perceived importance of the work you're doing

You would be given more money by working a higher-skilled job

Basically like capitalism

Nope.

The higher class would be the most gifted genetically, and the people who have achieved the greatest.

The fascist system of hierarchy is different than that of the capitalist one.

For you alone are responsible for your job, and you only take orders from those who are above you, while commanding those who are below you, if you are given clearence to do so.

Not that different from militaristic styles of commanding when you think about it.

communist swine

Your memes are shit anime faggot

@Deleted User Is this what alt-rightists call a raid?

*"white nationalist symbol*"

It would be ironic if he's alt right

Why do 4fags think you can be a traditionalist but watch anime

@olev Dunno.

just fucking around with you libtards

@Deleted User Fucking hell kid, I am far right, and this is signifies every reason why I hate the alt-right.

communist swine vvv

Oh no I leave for 10 minutes what have I come back to

commie swine

Tbh it's funny when low T faggots try to make up for being emasculated by having edgy political views

Look drunk I'm on your side

You need to STOP

Uh also Rex

Good chat thank you for enlightening me about fascism

I understand it much better than previously

@Brickiest Brick Oh, it was fun.

waa facisim

waa the candidate i didnt like won

waaa

@Deleted User Yes, I was not lying about being far right.

Unsurprisingly this server is full of right wingers

lefty pol

the politically correct

the cucks

I came here to troll lefties but instead made friends with fellow righties

>haha i troll left wingers

Funny le trole

oh nooo

Did i...

@olev We were all like that at one point.

i hurt feelings

Yeah

you sure got me

Don't take everyhting so literally

your precious feelurs

I'm willing to bet you're 12 years old

I came here to debate leftists and perhaps learn a thing or two from them

Which you know what, I did

@Brickiest Brick If you want to get started on fascism, I can PM you a link to a fascist server, though, you would be almost defineatly bullied around..

Hmm

Send me a link anyway

facisim dosen't exist

you're living in a make belive world

How old are you @Deleted User

1488

He may or may not devide us

he will cum inside us

no homo

also

Hilarious

how come everyone you dissagree with is facist

i've always wondered

I don't think I've spoken to you before this point

not related

why is everyone facist

I don't think everyone that disagrees with me is a fascist

then why am i facist

I never said you were fucking moron

i disagree

Either you have aspergers or you're from some shitty non-english country

england is not my original

i cum from japland

where shit gaye af nigga

burn the niggers

Do you think you're funny or something

hmm🤔

yes

Lol

loli

mmm loli

im proud to be white

in japan?

it was a fucking meme nigger

@everyone white is right

I have come

To steal your dragon balls

With the power of the 7 super chaos emeralds

Ooga booga

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YrJ7Nsgo6Bs

nigger

<:troll:312064734113431553>

ok

was expecting more activity

it's 2am what did you expect

also watch that video

>troll

faggot

is this 2007 or some shit?

>literal xbox 360 pfp

gay

gay use of greentext

@ĐℝÜ⋒₭#3075 gtfo

https://twitter.com/notch/status/936215345400033280 🤔

@Deleted User Liberals and commies BTFO.

☭

It's okay to be conservative

@Samwat57 >Conservative
>Nationalist
Kek.

Ik

Don't forget continentalist too

A conservative a legitimate nationalist? I find that hard to believe.

also anti islam

and anti libersl

anti trans

anti communist

I would expect that from a conservative on the internet.

ew

>conservative

>liberal

>communism

>capitalism

fellas

i dont feel so good

@happy st pattys day Why is that?

i had a bad dream

i dreamt a world where the left can meme

scary!

get it?

ahhahaha

human nature

Lol

That was a day ago or some shit

hold on, what server is that?

https://discord.gg/QfpKAZK

wtf i love anarchy now

Individualism in a nutshell:

leftists?

ha gay

kek

https://discord.gg/tMfHnJx

Hey Comrades should I buy ketchup?

Yes

No

Buy tomato sauce

Real communists use the blood if the capitalists <:ho:315613510589480964>

<:bour:313709044957315082>

commie swine

"Mason still
hailed serial killers, mass-murderers, and eccentric commandos
of all stripes, but now invested his literature with
aspects of stoic self-preservation. A chapter title from Mein
Kampf proclaims: "The Strongest Man Stands Alone." Mason
comparatively theorized that if one could make provi -
sions to subsist outside the grasp of System servitude,
you've in essence become a crude weapon. In Mason's
view, Manson was a symbol par excellence of this alternative
survival complex"
YES, IT ALL MAKES SENSE NOW.

Anyone here up for raiding a nazi server

@Baker of the Great Bread which one

Depends If I can paste a link or nah

They are horrible people

literally harassed people IRL, threatened to black mail

Are you a commie @MacAlistair#5289

Were sexually harassing a friend of mine

I do hope we are on /leftypol/ here

anyway

https://discord.gg/SFP4G6P

Yeah but this server is mostly right wing trolls

I don't care

as long as these bastards are brought down I'm fine

Don't care who does it then

so go to town @everyone

Is the server itself natsoc?

no

@MacAlistair#5289 Your friend has a nice ass.

I agree

@Baker of the Great Bread Marxist I'm assuming you are?