im sorry but

***why do people insult Communism's name?***

with this

Vladmir Lenin was better then you

mm

true

He was the true Communist Leader.

Or Trotsky.

Trotsky would have been better

who's to say?

You killed millions of your own men, and purged most of your army.

@Imagine Both fucking jews.

If Trotsky was alive, The USSR would have conqured Berlin faster.

@Deleted User *Shekel Stealers

But then WW2 would have been against the soviets.

Still

Well, not really

Would a commie like you like to see lebenshraum be achieved by germany and the allies?

I don't think so.

@Deleted User Just because I said That Trotsky would have been a better leader i'm a commie?

lol k

@Imagine Why are you on a leftist discord then?

If you are neither right wing, nor left wing?

Because we were going to raid it.

I said nah

>lebenshraum

MODS!

I am more Right Wing tho

so.

@Sn0w ❄ You must give germany credit with how they took the soviets by surprise and got all the way to moscow before they were pushed back.

I don't take credit from them

How would you take credit from them?

By claiming they were shit and hardly did anything in WWII and instead the Italians did a bunch of the work

That'd be taking credit from them

Oh I get that now.

>Conquered france which the imperial germans were unable to do
>Took almost all of western soviet russia, got all the way to moscow before they were forced to retreat
>Took all of eastern europe along with the italians

Wehrmacht shares weaponary and war techniques with italian army (1941 colorized)

You can have my cup of coffee but I'll take it back from you before you get a chance to drink it and then drink it myself

Why did you take my cup of coffee

@Sn0w ❄ If you must know, the only nation before germany to conquer all of russia to the point where they got to moscow was the mongolians in the pre imperial age of europe.

You didn't have a chance to drink it. You wasted your own energy and time taking it from me for nothing. Was the grab a success?

The Germans committed horrible atrocities

@Deleted User Fuck off kulak starver.

lol

@Sn0w ❄ In many ways, you could consider it a success.

The Kulaks burned their own corps

*crops

starting the famine in the first place

While the ultimate goal was not achieved, you still succeeded in taking what you claimed, even if it was temporary.

How so. He never got to use *Lebensraum as he wanted. He took it and lost it

But he didn't take it for the intention to take it. He took it with the intention to use it

So no, it wasn't a success

hell

I don't even like stalin that mcuh

But I'll tell you what he did right

@Deleted User Fuck off tankie.

he wasn't as bad as history claims him to be

wow aggressive

He woke up the public

if your only argument is fuck off tankie

then you need to learn how to construct one

*the only none extremist person on the server*

@Sn0w ❄ Yet, however, the campaign was successful in that it crippled the soviet military (In the beginning) and he took the land that he wanted, granted it was recaptured, but the operation was still a partial success.

The Kulaks tried resisting Collectivization

they burned their own tools and crops

@Deleted User >When he did not get the insult was a joke

and as such they starved

oh

sorry

I can't tell between jokes and serious statements

Oh you tankies and your inabilities.

You took my coffee but I drank it in the end. You can be proud that you got the coffee for a second at the cost of your life, but was it really worth it?

Again, Hitler's biggest success is still in act

@Sn0w ❄ It really just depends on the circumstances in the end.

no like

it's a literal mental condition

Without him, half the people wouldn't realize what's happening in the world right now

@Deleted User Are you fucking autistic?

mildly, yes

im dying rn

cool

KEK

kekekekeekkeke

@Sn0w ❄ Without who again?

Autistic people actually tend to have quite a bit higher IQ than average people. Just leaving this here

Hitler

@Sn0w ❄ Autistic people always have their weird kinks that force them to behave in strange and stupid ways.

Would you rather be weird and smart or normal and dumb

How weird are we talking, and how dumb are we talking.

Dumb as in average, weird as in autistic

How autistic are we talking?

Noticeably autistic but not to the point where you're socially impaired

Meh, I will give you this one and go with the autismo route, at least I would not end up like a tankie.

A good choice

He has a chance

I'm slightly autistic

and according to actual doctors has mostly overcome it

@Deleted User Yet you still have social disabilities.

Well, they're few and far between.

It's not classified as a disability anymore.

Yet you just displayed that you have them.

In what?

You are still unable to separate jokes from seriousness.

yeah

I can only imagine how you might act in different situations.

That is a part of that

I hope it's not an issue.

Oh let me tell you, it won't be an issue for me, but it is for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6PO4i-3xmw

@Deleted User most of people on discord are 100% autistic. Please feel like you are at home.

aight

@Deleted User Oh and by the way, don't give out personal info on discord, it will be used against you.

yeah

kk

oh

Iraq is in a civil war

No fucking shit.

Ever hear of ISIS?

Or the SDF?

Yea

let's go Kurdistan Worker's Party

establish socialism

They are getting destroyed in iraq.

They were caught off guard harder than stalin.

Is anybody going to intervene?

That would piss off iran and russia.

So no, only proxy wars.

TBH

The left establishment in america is no better than the right

you shouldn't be fired for who you vote for

*Furious typing from shareblue and wall street journal*

>insinuating the left and right in America aren't just the same corporate ideology with different brands

they somewhat are

We need a socialist revolution in the US

Lel

@Kurt Sturm Not going to happen.

The simplest way to repair a civil war torn country

Is Flex tape obviously

Why do you say that @Deleted User

@Kurt Sturm No person in their right minds will support socalism in the US.

No argument for why it won't succeed beyond that eh?

We'll see in time

@Kurt Sturm Not to mention, that tbey have also been completely been illegalized from running in politicts.

Revolutions don't take into account laws too often

Hah, have you seen the so called revolutionaries?

https://youtu.be/gn-ofIAbv-w

A revolution cannot happen right now, no doubt

Conditions in the US for many people are *good enough* that they don't see a need to look for alternatives

But ignorance can only last so long with the slowly deteriorating state

the US will collapse in due time

Mmm

All we can do is put our ideas out there

Europe will collapse first bc refugee crisis

>muh refugees are the reason Europe is collapsing

It's a bit more complex than that

It will not happen for a long time.

Decades

But within our lifetime I suspect

And, a right wing revolution is more likely in the US.

Not really, because most people are pretty nice folks

Additionally the population of the US doesn't support your white nationalist hopes

I believe in Peaceful revolution

through political means

The 1% will never give up their power

Willingly

Real change will only happen when people take up arms

@Kurt Sturm 10% do.

10% is a very large population.

Note that an estimated 10% of the 13 colonies rose up against the british.

The majority is not needed.

10% support what? Please expand on that. Also the situation in the Revolutionary War was very different, most colonists supported the revolution or were so disconnected from the fighting they didn't care one way or another

Also socialism v. fascism civil war in the US could happen

Would be pretty interesting

The US is entering a similar situation to the Roman Republic when it became an Empire through civil war

@Kurt Sturm 10% actively took up arms.

Mmm

"@Paugers 10% do."

What do you mean by this I mean

And the US conducted a study, and it showed that 30% today would also take up arms immedieatly in the event of civil war.

Not to mention that 70% of the military would also immedieatly abandon their posts.

Hello, fellow proletarians

Not doubting that, but for what cause?

bad day today

I've honestly lost faith after discussing on /pol/

@Kurt Sturm That the US does not know.

Most of them would be for the right wing cause by far.

Probably

Why is it that all the people in Eastern Europe who were under communism are against it now?

The Left needs a quality leader is all

I don't think we have enough people on our side yet to even think about revolution. More every day.

There has not been one in almost 100 years.

Not all people in Eastern Europe are against it

@Kurt Sturm What about Bernie Sanders?

Lel

Yeah

Bernie is great

@Deleted User Over rated scam artist.

I voted for him

Bernie Sanders isn't far left or even close to it

He is

A step in the right direction sure

wtf

@Tom11 People tend to sway back and forth. Bush ~ Obama ~ Trump. Same with them. Monarchy ~ a single union ~ nationalism

@Kurt Sturm Who would be your choice? Honest question.

@Kurt Sturm well majority of population who lived under the USSR are against it

they hate it

Among US politicians?

Unfortunate

@Kurt Sturm yeah

Jill Stein but even she sucks tbh

''russians''

but that is the point

no eastern europeans like it

Communist Party USA leadership doesn't know how to function enough

Also

can you link me that please

@Kurt Sturm What about waters or Pelosi?

Olberman is starting to grow on me.

I dislike all of them honestly

> well majority of population who lived under the USSR are against it

I second @Tom11 on that study. Would be useful ammo against pol

Sputnik reported on it eh?

Yeah

Russian Media is pretty biased tbh

Sputnik is pretty good I think

When they're not talking about Russian topics yes

When is that?

They don't talk nonsense

Only preach the true word

Communism for everyone on an equal level

They're like Russia Today

@EALootcrates Yes

@Kurt Sturm I know, I wish they were more like MSNBC. The Russians actually enjoy seeing pussy riot being attacked by fascist cops

Unfortunately we don't have free healthcare

🇺🇸

that's why we need communism

:^)

free healthcare would be pure shit

@EALootcrates stupid shill

extremely expenive

*expensive

low-quality

stop spreading this propaganda

citation needed

we're already spending trillions