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We have a troll
no one can leave the country
Guys guys
I don't see the problem
poverty is rampant
@EALootcrates Well, at least they managed to semi survive up to today.
democracy was crushed
do they though?
They are here to troll us
the economy is in shambles
What about Yugoslavia?
their entire structure fell apart
No
Vic
Dont
and they went deep in isolation
yugoslavia was capitalist
Dont give them a platform
they had western elements
PFFT
It was market socialist
HAHAHAHAHAHA
>yugoslavia was capitalist
mah nigga u retarded
it was
What a fucking idiot
Ok
okay bluepilled fucks
then the USSR was capitalist too
pepe you are literally retarded
@Vic Chong Yugoslavia is non existant, it was a remneant of the austro hungarian empire with an identity crisis that fell because of the same reasons that the austro hungarians did.
Market Socialism
Goli Otok
Think before you speak dumbass
now
We have two experts on Yugoslav here
Vorkuta now
for pepe
3? :D
The deteriorating life conditions of the 1980s Yugoslavia were reflected in soaring unemployment rates, along inflation. In the late 1980s, the unemployment rate in Yugoslavia was over 17 percent, with another 20 percent underemployed. 60% of the unemployed were then under the age of 25. Real net personal income declined by 19.5%. The nominal GDP per capita of Yugoslavia at current prices in US dollars was at 3,549 $ in 1990. The central government tried to reform the self-management system and create an open market economy with considerable state ownership of major industrial factories, but strikes in major plants and hyperinflation have held back progress
"yeah but that wasn't real socialism"
That was real socialism
it failed
and plus
it wasn't state controlled
It worked for a long time
It failed because some states wanted indenpendance
you dimwit
they had western elements and it was labor associations and private companies
@Vic Chong But failed in the end.
I'm not an Orthodox Marxist
Im sad now
socialism works at first but once you run out of other people's money...
What is that? Orthodox christianity mixxed with marxism?
the country collapses
and falls deep
You should have never brought up Yugoslavia
>Orthodox christianity mixed with marxism
the scariest thing I can imagine
>anything mixed with marxism
scariest thing I can imagine
Know what
Listen you degenerate fucking piece of shit
your anarchist servers are pathetic
Tell me about how great america is
@EALootcrates In theory, anarchism, the true goal of socialism, seems like a good idea, but it is the utopia, a dream that is too unrealistic to meet.
anarchism is the destruction of the national identity and state
You have fucking freedom of god damn speech and we are here in this server to exercise that god damn right
>implying going to a lefty server and shitposting is not pathetic
it is violent lawless mob rule
Whether its in america or not
*pats* good job pepe
well guess what it's called having an argument
You have half the country going ape shit
Because they dont like
not everything is shitposting
The guy they fucking voted in
well if youre not shitposing you are a literal retard
Socialism is when everyone shares money and gets paid the same ๐
@Mosin Nagant America is great, but it has it's issues, the main reason it is that outside forces, as well as outsourcing of jobs, and mixing with other races, has helped create a toxic environment for major cities.
that's because half of that country is retarded and didn't vote for him
@Deleted User Im talking to @EALootcrates
even tough trump won more then 600 counties
and hillary only 50 counties including NY
At least in other nations they know they dont have a choice in who rules
But america where YOU the individual can choose
You make your choice
And you are supposed to know
@Deleted User i agree some foreign elements are affecting america negatively
If your guy doesnt get into office
Then you should NOT be mad
dems are retarded
Its a fucking democracy and you live in it
that's why
If you dont like it then move to a different natiom
a bunch of idiots are salty because he won the election
Not every nation is the best
Not every country has great leaders
@EALootcrates America's political spectrum is about to explode, as the left and right cannot co-exist in an environment like this, whether an event such as trump being impeached, or a military coup occurs, a civil war is possible in the future.
But you have to give it to the smart few
america is the best even tough it has it's own issues
Who try their best in experimenting new ways to make their country and their people united
Happy
And under one flag
And NOT arguing with each other
Because one has a fucking nazi flag in their backyard
And the other is a jew but isnt actually fucking jewish
@Mosin Nagant Though there enlies the issue, because people are given the freedom of speech and demonstraition, that is what leads to the conflict we see today.
And you know this brings up the jews in my other arguement in another server
@Deleted User well the left and right lived together for years since the left weren't affected by elements like progressivism, globalism, multiculturism, sjwism etc and since the right didn't have the alt-right
Im not trying to be a nazi
both spectrums radicalized in a way
But why the fuck is israel being such a fucking
God damn
Hypocrit
>associating israel with jews
but having the left and the right live with each other is practical
They get genocided and then out of nowhere turn around and do practically the same to god damn palestinians
Now wtf
You cant compare Zionists to Jews
The world is fucked up
isreal was successful tough
thats like saying all germans are nazis
thats like saying all serbs are chetniks
Yeah i guess your right
Sorry coco-chan
@EALootcrates The left and right have always been at each others throats for hundreds of years, their relations exploded during the 1800s, and cooled during the early 1900s, but have heated up once again since the 1930s, and have progressively gotten worse.
I got **SALT**
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America is much more different than it was in the late 1800s or even the early 1900s, but WW1 and WW2 modernized the US and made it an international force.
@Deleted User well there were multiple reasons for that, but recently some elements of the right and a lot of the left is going in alternate paths like sjwism and the alt-right
radicalizing themselves
/pol/yps still think daddy trump can save America from the big bad spooky witch lady, rapefugees, and george "king of the rabbis" soros
When will you guys realize that there is way more going on in the world.
it's funny because
the situation in america goes first into our spectrum
@EALootcrates Though the main cause behind it is corruption of the corporations, and the destruction of american pride and liberty.
As well as that, international beliefs and idea's are also harming the US.
did you ever notice how corporations mostly have a hard-on for the left in america
It is no coincidence that most of them pander to the left and will use them to their advantage.
Thank you
For being the neutral cold hard fact giving member of this chat
You are welcome?
@EALootcrates So tell me, why are you for trump?
right now? like this?
well let's start by the establishment
then political correctness
then the desecration of our national identity
then the economic benefits
then the internal restoration of america and the preservation of it's position as a superpower
then immigration
then realpolitik
Oh boy, I feel like we are going to be in for a wild ride tonight.
then his hint of populism
Well, let's begin then.
i have other reasons
too
I personally like trump because while is a pawn, no different from obama, he still manages to agitate the left possibly more than lincoln, and of course given the circumstances and statistics, it will only lead to my groups success down the line the more and more agitated and violent they become.
what are your groups
and by the way if what I understood from what you said is right
it's absolutely retarded to think that agitation and violence
will lead to much
if the left tries to rebel, our 800 billion dollars millitary
will crush them
Puhuhu.... you seem to forget the fact, that if civil war occurs, the US government will be overthrown almost immedieatly.
Read this.
oh boy, you think so?
didn't you guys win like
50 counties
in the election
@EALootcrates You think I am for the democrats?
No.
the left will be seen as the cancer it is
if a civil war goes off
the US will gather it's military
all of it's gun-loving patriots
and it's allies
to crush any uprisings
The issue is however, the circumstances surrounding an event such as that are only possible (At the moment) with two situations.
A major worldwide economic depression like the world has not yet seen, or trump getting impeached.
it's funny because
the economy of the US
is actually better then ever
and it's funny because
there are NO
N O
chances
of trump being impeached
China's economy could collapse if the oil runs out.
That is the only chance, since they are so dependant.
china is basically a massive bubble ready to burst
overinflated currency
unsafe investments
crippling real estate
If it does, then the worlds economy goes with it.
ressources running dry
crippling unemployment
unsafe manipulation of markets
The great depression will pale in comparrason to china's bubble bursting.
china won't be a driver of the world's economy
for long
we'll take it's place as the world's first manafacturer
and we'll generate actual good jobs
"repeal and replace china"
And with economic ruin in a capitalist market, people will revolt regardless of the political situation, which will almost garunteed to be shitty.
finally the cancerous
communist regime
will be overthrown
we shall take china's place as first manafacturer
we'll heal the world economy
the chinese dependence was going too far
People will try to theorize and revolt against the current system, which will result in great revolutions and rebellions.
it's funny because
china's downfall
will not have much to do with capitalism
Though you have to imagine, will a capitalist world recover if the worlds oil supplies run out?
the unsafe practices of their leftist communist regimes
and their buisness regulations
have something to do with it tough
the world oil supplies?&
50 years
Though the fact remains that they are probably the 2nd biggest player in the worlds economy.
and i'm not counting all the oil in antartica
and all the offshore exploration
we could do
Do you really think that we could survive a situation similar to the great depression which almost caused america to collapse?
We are much more dependant on the international economy than ever.
A collapse will only magnetize the events.
3 more years of trump
will make us more and more independent
and self-sufficient
We shall see.
If he get's impeached however.....
oh but he won't
it's almost impossible
That will almost immedieatly cause a military coup detat.
and by the way, he has not been proved to have done anything unconstitutional
for now
I don't doubt that it is a very hard thing to do, but the impossible has been achieved before, just hope that god does not give them good luck and cause trump to be impeached, because otherwise I hope you like living in a warzone while russian, chinese, and canadians fight against far left insurgencies.
well, let me just mention how
the chinese government is communist
the russian government is socialist
the canadian government is liberal
so
yeah
the rise of the right is already happening
imagine how amplified
this would be
The russian government has shown time and time again that they will support very far right movements, otherwise they would not be in ukraine or syria, and china will do it for the money, canada will have a minimal presence at best.
Expect china to give guns to any place in the west coast that will offer to sell them oil.
the ukrainian revolt
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