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2017-09-16 03:32:56 UTC

that kind of sounds retarded

2017-09-16 03:33:04 UTC

i dont know how else to put it at the moment

2017-09-16 03:33:35 UTC

Life and suffering are almost equal. Animals can probably experience it worse than us.

2017-09-16 03:34:05 UTC

I mean, evolution doesn't give a fuck how you get there. Just get there.

2017-09-16 03:34:19 UTC

have you read mill at all?

2017-09-16 03:34:26 UTC

stuart mill?

2017-09-16 03:34:36 UTC

A while ago.

2017-09-16 03:34:46 UTC

Is he the nasty brutish and short guy?

2017-09-16 03:34:55 UTC

ahaha

2017-09-16 03:34:59 UTC

yeah the bald one

2017-09-16 03:35:02 UTC

kinda bald

2017-09-16 03:35:15 UTC
2017-09-16 03:36:04 UTC

my listening skills are done for, i can only communicate through writing apparently

2017-09-16 03:36:20 UTC

senses are falling one by one

2017-09-16 03:36:27 UTC

I am a terrible talker. Really autistic.

2017-09-16 03:37:00 UTC

Not true autism, some other fuck up illness.

2017-09-16 03:37:05 UTC

that comes as a free promotion from philosophy most of the time

2017-09-16 03:37:09 UTC

asperger?

2017-09-16 03:37:16 UTC

Not certain.

2017-09-16 03:37:22 UTC

does it matter?

2017-09-16 03:37:24 UTC

Doctors are a spook.

2017-09-16 03:37:27 UTC

yeah

2017-09-16 03:37:38 UTC

psychology is a spook

2017-09-16 03:37:41 UTC

not even a science

2017-09-16 03:37:48 UTC

fucking sham

2017-09-16 03:37:58 UTC

Wew. Someone finally said it.

2017-09-16 03:38:07 UTC

L Ron Hubbard was right.

2017-09-16 03:39:24 UTC

I like Terror Management Theory though.

2017-09-16 03:39:32 UTC

Reality is just too terrifying.

2017-09-16 03:39:41 UTC

To confront.

2017-09-16 03:40:21 UTC

for a time i was so into the psychology with the hopes of being a "yuri mastermind" from red alert

2017-09-16 03:40:31 UTC

Hahaha.

2017-09-16 03:40:56 UTC

but then i realized it was all spooks and i dropped all of it, cleaned the place my memory space psychology was occupying it

2017-09-16 03:41:11 UTC

the only useful thing is psychoanalysis

2017-09-16 03:41:13 UTC

and that is

2017-09-16 03:41:22 UTC

applying upon yourself

2017-09-16 03:41:26 UTC

not by some fucking shrinks

2017-09-16 03:41:35 UTC

Everything is sex?

2017-09-16 03:42:00 UTC

yes and you should rape your mother at once

2017-09-16 03:42:01 UTC

no

2017-09-16 03:42:07 UTC

Do you like Lacan or Zizek?

2017-09-16 03:42:19 UTC

realizing the past and going deep into the memories

2017-09-16 03:42:33 UTC

there is so much shit you stumble upon when you do that

2017-09-16 03:43:00 UTC

I always find it amazing the brain's ability to remember things from so long ago, in detail like you are right there.

2017-09-16 03:43:05 UTC

the memories that are hidden, in what they would call subconsciousness are truly shaping what we are and everything about ourselves

2017-09-16 03:43:13 UTC

yeah, pretty much nothing is forgotten

2017-09-16 03:43:28 UTC

i mean, at least not mine

2017-09-16 03:43:41 UTC

the only issue is filtering the real memories and all the replacement ones

2017-09-16 03:44:12 UTC

I have always been afraid to mess around with the mind. I would end up like Homer Simpson, constantly screaming from past trauma.

2017-09-16 03:44:21 UTC

the ones you replaced because your consciousness or i what freud would call "superego" wanted to change it

2017-09-16 03:44:44 UTC

how much trauma are we talking about?

2017-09-16 03:45:07 UTC

I was a sensitive kid.

2017-09-16 03:45:24 UTC

i see

2017-09-16 03:45:33 UTC

well it's probably better to leave it there than

2017-09-16 03:45:45 UTC

I agree.

2017-09-16 03:46:18 UTC

you could end up like nietzsche facing his demons and getting assraped by them

2017-09-16 03:46:22 UTC

poor guy

2017-09-16 03:46:55 UTC

And there is also the problem of implanted more bad things in your mind, more demon seeds ready to fuck you over in the future.

2017-09-16 03:47:18 UTC

To me it's not worth tinkering around.

2017-09-16 03:47:28 UTC

Well....

2017-09-16 03:47:34 UTC

Unless I didn't care anymore.

2017-09-16 03:47:54 UTC

But that attitude in itself is a magnet for more problems.

2017-09-16 03:48:06 UTC

what do you mean implanted?

2017-09-16 03:48:17 UTC

implanting

2017-09-16 03:48:27 UTC

Implanting things in your mind.

2017-09-16 03:48:36 UTC

how?

2017-09-16 03:48:42 UTC

Like a magician would.

2017-09-16 03:48:45 UTC

by experiencing things you create memories

2017-09-16 03:48:46 UTC

I mean like an occultist.

2017-09-16 03:48:51 UTC

oh

2017-09-16 03:49:10 UTC

and what causes that implementation?

2017-09-16 03:49:21 UTC

'Magick'?

2017-09-16 03:49:42 UTC

I would have thought someone interested in psychology would be interested in those practices.

2017-09-16 03:50:13 UTC

i mean i am into occult up to a certain point

2017-09-16 03:50:16 UTC

It's basically a method of reprogramming.

2017-09-16 03:50:40 UTC

are we talking about creating fake memories or changing the ones you already have?

2017-09-16 03:51:24 UTC

Both and not just memories, all kind of physiological editing, depends on how adept you are.

2017-09-16 03:52:01 UTC

Although that's getting into the chaos magic area.

2017-09-16 03:52:18 UTC

alright but what i can't get over is, why would you implant things that would fuck you up in the future? why demon seeds?

2017-09-16 03:52:30 UTC

Not intentionally.

2017-09-16 03:53:15 UTC

Unintended consequences and inexperience.

2017-09-16 03:53:19 UTC

just to be sure, we are not talking about tulpas are we?

2017-09-16 03:53:50 UTC

Yes, that would work.

2017-09-16 03:54:24 UTC

Although the question of identity gets a bit unclear.

2017-09-16 03:54:34 UTC

i see that and raise, do you astral project?

2017-09-16 03:54:38 UTC

and or meditate?

2017-09-16 03:54:43 UTC

and/or lucid?

2017-09-16 03:54:52 UTC

Not my style, sorry.

2017-09-16 03:54:56 UTC

hahahaha

2017-09-16 03:55:51 UTC

At one point I was more a ritualist or power mage.

2017-09-16 03:57:10 UTC

More concerned with cultivating certain energies than experiencing pretty images in my mind.

2017-09-16 03:57:30 UTC

Although that could be a side effect.

2017-09-16 03:57:43 UTC

truly interesting, a materialist mage

2017-09-16 03:57:51 UTC

any experiences? bent a spoon?

2017-09-16 03:58:11 UTC

Sadly no.

2017-09-16 03:58:25 UTC

It's difficult to quantify.

2017-09-16 03:58:38 UTC

Shapeshifting maybe.

2017-09-16 03:59:37 UTC

Back then I wasn't a materialist.

2017-09-16 03:59:56 UTC

Just edgy.

2017-09-16 04:00:18 UTC

your approach to magick was materialist

2017-09-16 04:00:33 UTC

maybe was an indicator for your rationalist curse at that time

2017-09-16 04:00:34 UTC

Oh.

2017-09-16 04:00:51 UTC

Thanks, doctor.

2017-09-16 04:01:03 UTC

call me freud

2017-09-16 04:01:28 UTC

Brb. Might go grab some alcohol beverages.

2017-09-16 04:01:46 UTC

alright, i might be leaving in 30 minutes or so

2017-09-16 04:01:53 UTC

Alright.

2017-09-16 04:01:56 UTC

Thanks for the chat.

2017-09-16 04:02:00 UTC

We covered a lot of ground.

2017-09-16 04:02:57 UTC

are you in other relevant servers?

2017-09-16 04:03:11 UTC

and what happened to our gorgeous agrarian cause, just noticed?

2017-09-16 04:05:11 UTC

We lost key investors.

2017-09-16 04:07:44 UTC

In other words, it was a parody which was born from cynicism with political causes in general, and an experiment to see what it would be like to create a legitimate political ideology from scratch.

2017-09-16 04:07:44 UTC

Hi kids.

2017-09-16 04:07:47 UTC

Is this legit?

2017-09-16 04:08:04 UTC

Turns out it is really easy to convince people you are legit.

2017-09-16 04:09:00 UTC

I'm really desperate to get involved in 'Murrica. I think I've been here before, but I still have hope.

2017-09-16 04:09:27 UTC

I'm heading out. Someone else can field this one.

2017-09-16 04:09:33 UTC

Ciao

2017-09-16 04:10:01 UTC

Anyway, mainboard leftypol pisses me off how little there seems to be capacity to organize.

2017-09-16 04:38:38 UTC

What kind of lefty are you first? @JonnyWhatsit

2017-09-16 04:38:53 UTC

Georgist.

2017-09-16 04:40:12 UTC

Oh boy.

2017-09-16 04:40:30 UTC

Is that an issue?

2017-09-16 04:42:14 UTC

You'd be the first that I know of. I will hold my tongue on the rest.

2017-09-16 04:42:24 UTC

Yay.

2017-09-16 04:48:13 UTC

So basically you're just a liberal reformist? @JonnyWhatsit

2017-09-16 04:50:01 UTC

Still less capitalist than SocDems.

2017-09-16 04:52:08 UTC

I see establishing the land and its uses as a public resource as extremely radical reform - and acknowledge that it's unlikely to be readily allowed by moneyed interests who profit off of land ownership and exploitation.

2017-09-16 04:52:45 UTC

I'm still interning in George, but I've read he supported publicizing any private monopolies which managed to form, too.

2017-09-16 04:52:45 UTC

Were you less pessimistic in the past?

2017-09-16 04:53:43 UTC

No, actually I'm quite new to Georgism. So this is actually an optimistic turn.

2017-09-16 04:54:45 UTC

Do you have much exposure to other kinds of Leftism, Marx or Kropotkin?

2017-09-16 04:57:42 UTC

Nnnope. Very limited. I have "Origin of the Family, Private Property, and the State" but I've only touched it barely. I've been party to anarchist communes, and leading up to Georgism I saw myself as a "wannabe anarchist" - IE, I idolized that system but had no real hope of it functioning broadly and only limited hope of it functioning self-sufficiently for production. Also, the communities I was part of, though run by clever people, were full of idpol to the point of masochism.

2017-09-16 04:58:28 UTC

That's a shame.

2017-09-16 04:59:15 UTC

There is a lot of content to possibly go through. Are you new to Discord in general?

2017-09-16 04:59:31 UTC

No, but I don't register this name.

2017-09-16 05:00:24 UTC

I guess my advice would be to expose yourself to different politics, ask questions and join different Discord servers.

2017-09-16 05:00:38 UTC

Are there multiple leftypol servers?

2017-09-16 05:00:54 UTC

Why do you love leftypol so much?

2017-09-16 05:02:36 UTC

I don't. Leftypol sucks. It's just one of very few relatively large lefty communities where shitting on idpol and pop-sensitivity stuff is smiled upon. and the divisive identity problems in the mainstream (and even less mainstream) American 'left' are acknowledged and criticized.

2017-09-16 05:04:12 UTC

I'm not really out to read theory on the servers - I *do* read stuff that piques my interest on the board, but I'm more looking here for discussion where I can participate in some form of action not necessarily related to theory. Not antifa either, just some way to physically help out.

2017-09-16 05:05:41 UTC

Stay a while. I am not connected to political parties, but others here are. They could help you.

2017-09-16 05:06:06 UTC

Cool!

2017-09-16 05:08:46 UTC

@JonnyWhatsit So tell me, what is your ideology?

2017-09-16 05:10:14 UTC

@Deleted User Scroll up numb nuts.

2017-09-16 05:10:34 UTC

@Deleted User Let the man answer for himself.

2017-09-16 05:11:35 UTC

>Let the man repeat himself
Amazing.

2017-09-16 05:11:58 UTC

Georgism

2017-09-16 05:12:10 UTC

**No clue if I even spelt this right**

2017-09-16 05:12:15 UTC

This one has comprehension skills.

2017-09-16 05:13:23 UTC

@Anglican The fuck is that?

2017-09-16 05:14:09 UTC

I don't know

2017-09-16 05:14:18 UTC

Chopin said something like Liberal socdem reformism

2017-09-16 05:14:39 UTC

Sounds like something that even soc dem's would hate.

2017-09-16 05:15:27 UTC

Erm...

2017-09-16 05:15:33 UTC

None of that is inherently opposed

2017-09-16 05:15:54 UTC

Oh

2017-09-16 05:15:59 UTC

Geo-libertarianism

2017-09-16 05:16:01 UTC

I've heard of this

2017-09-16 05:16:15 UTC

it's the market side of the 'land should not be a thing to be bought and sold'

2017-09-16 05:16:23 UTC

Did y'all know Adam Smith stole his ideas from Sharia law?

2017-09-16 05:16:37 UTC

๐Ÿค”

2017-09-16 05:17:43 UTC

@Anglican What the fuck, how do you even promote a market in a state where land cannot be bought or sold?

2017-09-16 05:18:22 UTC

It is one of the first political ideologies he has learned much about. Give him a break.

2017-09-16 05:18:36 UTC

You just use it?

2017-09-16 05:18:44 UTC

I don't advocate for it neither do I know shit about it.

2017-09-16 05:18:57 UTC

I'm just skimming over the wikipedia article

2017-09-16 05:19:12 UTC

>Wikipedia
Stop that.

2017-09-16 05:19:15 UTC

I guess it's just a principle of occupation of land equals ownership

2017-09-16 05:19:22 UTC

Where else should I be looking?

2017-09-16 05:19:42 UTC

Anything but wikipedia.

2017-09-16 05:20:40 UTC

Wikipedia is fine for general overview.

2017-09-16 05:21:02 UTC

With the one exception of national syndicalism ๐Ÿคฃ ๐Ÿ”ซ

2017-09-16 05:21:55 UTC

Politics is like ice-cream. We all like different flavours but can all appreciate the cold sweetness against our lips.

2017-09-16 05:22:19 UTC

Fuck, that puts a really sexual ideal in my head

2017-09-16 05:22:42 UTC

like a guy furiously and heavily licking at some ice cream. Before looking at you with a smile, white ice cream all around his mouth

2017-09-16 05:23:00 UTC

Is the sexual?

2017-09-16 05:23:07 UTC

It's erotic

2017-09-16 05:23:13 UTC

how he's licking it

2017-09-16 05:23:21 UTC

Oh.

2017-09-16 05:23:36 UTC

Not all erotic activity is furious.

2017-09-16 05:23:45 UTC

I don't care

2017-09-16 05:23:58 UTC

But now I learned how you like it.

2017-09-16 05:24:10 UTC

.-.

2017-09-16 05:24:14 UTC

CHOPIN

2017-09-16 05:24:15 UTC

GO AWAY

2017-09-16 05:24:19 UTC

YOU'RE DRUNK

2017-09-16 05:24:46 UTC

<:caring:312066184948350976>

2017-09-16 05:24:55 UTC

2 beers is not drunk.

2017-09-16 05:25:01 UTC

@Anglican I don't call it Geo-libertarianism - just Georgism. Also totes less capitalist than Socdems.

2017-09-16 05:25:25 UTC

That's just where I learnt of it.

2017-09-16 05:25:30 UTC

O

2017-09-16 05:25:34 UTC

The concept.

2017-09-16 05:25:41 UTC

It was a long time ago, on a /pol/ server.

2017-09-16 05:25:56 UTC

I was scrolling through adn I saw someone ask "Wtf does that mean?"

2017-09-16 05:26:27 UTC

and the geo-lib explained it

2017-09-16 05:26:33 UTC

still doesn't make much sense

2017-09-16 05:26:36 UTC

but whatev

2017-09-16 05:30:49 UTC

Well, in the current setup you can purchase a plot of land and leave it and wait for it to accrue value before you let someone so much as set foot on it. This artificially inflates property values and increases vacancies directly.

2017-09-16 05:31:26 UTC

Under Georgism, anyone who wanted to do that would have to pay massive taxes on it, even higher if the land gave access to particular natural resources.

2017-09-16 05:34:04 UTC

This would also apply to production - a company couldn't just buy land to mine and hoard whatever they were mining on the land. The value of whatever they were mining would be worked into taxes if they wanted to keep doing it.

2017-09-16 07:09:19 UTC

So much for the anti-rape right!

2017-09-16 08:28:16 UTC

A man that large should fear no knife.

2017-09-16 08:30:57 UTC

Mcfatty

2017-09-16 08:49:18 UTC

Huh?

2017-09-16 08:49:21 UTC

Wut?

2017-09-16 08:49:34 UTC

*Hits crack pipe*

2017-09-16 08:49:47 UTC

WEeeeeeeeeeeeeee

2017-09-16 08:50:58 UTC

Fukc me it's still playing sounds I turned alerts off fuck

2017-09-16 08:51:22 UTC

@JonnyWhatsit Hello... Chicken man! AHAHAHA

2017-09-16 08:51:34 UTC

...

2017-09-16 08:51:54 UTC

*hits crack pipe*

2017-09-16 08:54:56 UTC

CIG BREAAK!

2017-09-16 08:56:47 UTC

Woooooooo man thats real, so how does China in a mountain village sound??

2017-09-16 08:57:06 UTC

Hit you on the nose didn't I?? Ahahahahahaa

2017-09-16 08:58:42 UTC

*Starts fapping*

2017-09-16 08:59:37 UTC

are you on lsd?

2017-09-16 08:59:56 UTC

Has not started this yet

2017-09-16 09:00:25 UTC

shit break

2017-09-16 09:01:14 UTC

faggot

2017-09-16 09:01:17 UTC

what's wrong with you

2017-09-16 09:01:20 UTC

nigger

2017-09-16 09:03:45 UTC

Ahahahahahahaahaaaa

2017-09-16 09:03:59 UTC

*hits crack pipe*

2017-09-16 09:04:07 UTC

i hope you OD nigger

2017-09-16 09:04:46 UTC

name aint od no od here crazy man seein shit

2017-09-16 09:10:23 UTC

found porn on friend computer should post it here weeb shit

2017-09-16 09:10:35 UTC

*hits crack pipe*

2017-09-16 09:12:06 UTC

i eat gummy worms during this time

2017-09-16 09:13:03 UTC

What is gummy worms?

2017-09-16 09:13:47 UTC

you know happy little worm

2017-09-16 09:18:48 UTC

i eat them

2017-09-16 09:21:02 UTC

I don't know. Please explain.

2017-09-16 09:21:36 UTC

you know gummy bears?

2017-09-16 09:21:39 UTC

like them

2017-09-16 09:21:40 UTC

but worms

2017-09-16 09:22:17 UTC

Why would you waste a good ice hit on browsing a friends computer and shitposting on random discords?

2017-09-16 09:22:26 UTC

I HATetfgfddd gummy beers they get stuck up nose to easy

2017-09-16 09:23:11 UTC

so like is my friend gay seems like hi s porn i sd a guy

2017-09-16 09:23:26 UTC

onn sec

2017-09-16 09:23:36 UTC

OOOOOOoo

2017-09-16 09:23:48 UTC

dat one was god

2017-09-16 09:24:04 UTC

Democracy was a mistake.

2017-09-16 09:25:30 UTC

life was a mistake

2017-09-16 09:26:12 UTC

upload rest

2017-09-16 09:27:24 UTC

yes

2017-09-16 09:27:53 UTC

sam dude he def gay now he lik this gay

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