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2017-09-09 23:15:32 UTC

*Science attempts to serve as an immortality project, something that Becker believes it can never do, because it is unable to provide agreeable, absolute meanings to human life.*

2017-09-09 23:22:47 UTC

*...the only suitable source of meaning is transcendent, cosmic energy, divine purpose*

2017-09-09 23:22:54 UTC

**divine purpose**

2017-09-09 23:30:51 UTC

*Thus, since humanity has a dualistic nature consisting of a physical self and a symbolic self, we are able to transcend the dilemma of mortality through heroism, by focusing our attention mainly on our symbolic selves. This symbolic self-focus takes the form of an individual's "immortality project" (or "causa sui project"), which is essentially a symbolic belief-system that ensures oneself is believed superior to physical reality. By successfully living under the terms of the immortality project, people feel they can become heroic and, henceforth, part of something eternal; something that will never die as compared to their physical body. This, in turn, gives people the feeling that their lives have meaning, a purpose, and are significant in the grand scheme of things.*

2017-09-09 23:37:20 UTC

2017-09-09 23:39:15 UTC

```Proverbs 19:21

Many are the plans in a person’s heart,
but it is the Lord’s purpose that prevails.```

2017-09-10 04:25:46 UTC

2017-09-10 04:59:48 UTC

Whomst've'th mentioned me?

2017-09-10 04:59:58 UTC

@πŸ…±host πŸ…±alaxies#6270 Also, stop it

2017-09-10 05:03:57 UTC

@πŸ…±host πŸ…±alaxies#6270 Rick and morty is an intelliectual show.

2017-09-10 05:07:57 UTC

It's not even good art

2017-09-10 05:08:11 UTC

Is it purely gross out? I'm assuming it is.

2017-09-10 05:26:41 UTC

Is anarchocomminism a meme?

2017-09-10 05:29:25 UTC

@Chalin No, it's real. Not a very convincing theory, but it exists unironically by many Anarchists.

2017-09-10 05:30:16 UTC

It seems equally if not more nonsensical than ancap

2017-09-10 05:30:44 UTC

Because communism requires the state to own the property

2017-09-10 05:30:57 UTC

But you can't have state owned property without a state

2017-09-10 05:31:14 UTC

Chalin, I haven't read up on it but supporters of it are very defensive.

2017-09-10 05:31:21 UTC

It should be called anarchomarxism or something else

2017-09-10 05:31:39 UTC

If it is a legitimate ideology, it's name is poorly chosen

2017-09-10 05:32:26 UTC

Oh boy. Where do I start and can I be bothered.

2017-09-10 05:32:52 UTC

I can't.

2017-09-10 05:33:08 UTC

How about the name. Is there a more accurate name for it?

2017-09-10 05:33:51 UTC

Marxism uses Socialism to reach Communism. AnCom just detroys the state to achieve communism. I agree it's pretty retarded.

2017-09-10 05:34:14 UTC

But there are insurrectionists who believe in continued fighting against the state post-revolution.

2017-09-10 05:34:25 UTC

It hasn't been tried yet.

2017-09-10 05:34:30 UTC

As I am aware it abolishes the state functions, capitalism and private property for common ownership. Not sure how that works.

2017-09-10 05:34:43 UTC

Sounds too crazy for me to read and take seriously.

2017-09-10 05:34:57 UTC

The main problem with anarchism is that in order for it to succeed post-revolution is resorts to authoritarianism through necessity.

2017-09-10 05:35:13 UTC

I mean, in the past it has.

2017-09-10 05:35:33 UTC

Its hard to prevent anarchy from devolving either into a state, or into barbarism

2017-09-10 05:35:37 UTC

Insurrectionists think they can maintain an indefinite guerrilla war.

2017-09-10 05:35:58 UTC

And this is seen as the height of Anarchist thought.

2017-09-10 05:36:10 UTC

I unironically sympathised with this. Because it's fun.

2017-09-10 05:36:47 UTC

I don't consider any violent means to be a legitimate way of dealing with a state who isn't violent to its own citizens

2017-09-10 05:37:00 UTC

I mean if you thrive in an anarchist society it doesn't seem so bad. Don't know how long would last like that though.

2017-09-10 05:37:16 UTC

The only reason the state exists is through threat of violence. Think about that.

2017-09-10 05:37:47 UTC

I would hate to be a woman or a retard in anarchism.

2017-09-10 05:38:17 UTC

I accept just violence used to maintain society.

2017-09-10 05:38:38 UTC

Anarchism doesn't mean Chaos. This is somewhat a misunderstanding politically.

2017-09-10 05:39:05 UTC

I think anarchism in all forms will lead to chaos. That's just my belief.

2017-09-10 05:39:15 UTC


2017-09-10 05:39:25 UTC

I don't consider it bad when a state chooses to pacify a violent individual with controlled violence

2017-09-10 05:39:44 UTC

Anarchism isn't sustainable, given human nature

2017-09-10 05:39:50 UTC

Communists would agree.

2017-09-10 05:40:32 UTC

Is this a communism server?

2017-09-10 05:40:34 UTC

Anarchists think that people are generally good, that's their view on human nature and why they think it would work.

2017-09-10 05:41:07 UTC

It's leftypol, what else would it be @Deleted User

2017-09-10 05:41:34 UTC

That's like asking if the /pol/ Discord is a fascism server

2017-09-10 05:41:47 UTC

It seems that Communists are unrepresented on the internet. But they make up for it. They are generally more well-read than their counterparts.

2017-09-10 05:41:48 UTC

@Chalin Do you... Know what communism is?

2017-09-10 05:41:55 UTC

It's mostly fascism with a sprinkle of ancap

2017-09-10 05:42:17 UTC

@Anglican I'm not being 100% serious, or loyal to the correct definitions

2017-09-10 05:42:27 UTC

I know what it is

2017-09-10 05:42:43 UTC

> I'm not being 100% serious
Makes it hard to have a conversation.

2017-09-10 05:43:08 UTC

/pol/ can go choke ona dick

2017-09-10 05:43:33 UTC

It's just tiring, it's just autistic and hateful sperging.

2017-09-10 05:43:43 UTC


2017-09-10 05:43:48 UTC

Sure, they've memed a lot of shit in the real world. But it's just, like, fuck.

2017-09-10 05:43:58 UTC

I agree. I farm memes there, but I'm a leftist.

2017-09-10 05:44:03 UTC

Hate, if it must exist, must be used in a positive way.

2017-09-10 05:44:28 UTC

@Chalin What kind of leftist?

2017-09-10 05:44:43 UTC

I'm assuming they're some form of Succ Dem

2017-09-10 05:44:46 UTC

libertarian, but near center

2017-09-10 05:44:57 UTC

There she is.

2017-09-10 05:45:15 UTC

Hate that /pol/'s go-to response is "dude weed lmao"

2017-09-10 05:45:19 UTC

Seems like the default position for political noobs.

2017-09-10 05:46:13 UTC

I've retreated from politics after realizing that /pol/ was starting to radicalize my me and make me swing far right

2017-09-10 05:46:22 UTC

2017-09-10 05:46:26 UTC

So I don't really have a proper position

2017-09-10 05:46:56 UTC

Don't take /pol/ serious. It's an echo chamber. Read about different ideas.

2017-09-10 05:47:14 UTC

I'm aware

2017-09-10 05:47:23 UTC

>Tfw you attempt to get into IronMarch and they basically pelt you with eggs and shitty memes

2017-09-10 05:48:09 UTC

Do you know what IronMarch is nooby?

2017-09-10 05:48:46 UTC


2017-09-10 05:48:51 UTC

>I state that the Kaiserreich, not the 3rd Reich, was the height of German civilization
>half of the /pol/ Discord calls me a cuck or shill

2017-09-10 05:49:43 UTC

I find myself sympathizing with several opposing stances

2017-09-10 05:50:22 UTC

That's generally what happens before you collaspe into a singularity.

2017-09-10 05:51:39 UTC

Also, I'm not entirely sure about how the Reich and Kasierreich compare.

2017-09-10 05:52:20 UTC

I know there was a moral warmth within the Reich, but it could have been very the same in the Kasierreich. But the entire point of fascism, the uniting of the people into one collective, was achieved

2017-09-10 05:52:29 UTC

and the people were mostly healthy before the war begun.

2017-09-10 05:54:06 UTC

National Socialism does seem like an ideal economy for war

2017-09-10 05:54:35 UTC

Nah, nah. That was Hitler's policy for the war.

2017-09-10 05:54:42 UTC

A lot of National Socialism came directly from Adolf.

2017-09-10 05:55:10 UTC

The inherent plan within NS doctrine is not jumping to war.

2017-09-10 05:55:47 UTC

It pulled Germany out of economy crisis through effective authoritarianism, and the economic system seems well suited for focusing on war

2017-09-10 05:56:00 UTC

Simply because the state is given so much control

2017-09-10 05:56:10 UTC

Of course.

2017-09-10 05:56:57 UTC

Everyone (who isn't an undesirable, woman, elderly, or child) is, in theory, a productive member of the workforce

2017-09-10 05:57:39 UTC

That's one thing that really bothers me, many NatSocs and Fascists are basically full out patriachial goyim

2017-09-10 05:58:01 UTC

Stalin had a better war economy.

2017-09-10 05:58:03 UTC

Just cause you mentioned women. I've been told that women and men are DIFFERENT SPECIES

2017-09-10 05:58:06 UTC


2017-09-10 05:58:27 UTC

Ye, I hear that, it's ironic at best

2017-09-10 05:59:11 UTC

They take a large step beyond acknowledging gender differences

2017-09-10 05:59:13 UTC

2017-09-10 05:59:37 UTC

That sounds more metaphorical, the way they say it

2017-09-10 05:59:39 UTC

(Note: I'm Oktavia)

2017-09-10 05:59:40 UTC

You have to remember that WW2 emerged out of the brutality of WW1 of the rise of Communism. All they care about is military.

2017-09-10 05:59:51 UTC

I've seen it said in a more litteral sense

2017-09-10 06:00:34 UTC

What was Stalin's wartime economy?

2017-09-10 06:00:45 UTC

/pol/ doesn't discuss that much

2017-09-10 06:00:58 UTC

It was likely War Communism

2017-09-10 06:01:05 UTC

it was basically central planning on steriods.

2017-09-10 06:01:49 UTC

No strikes, unions were directly state controlled, every able person (if not in the military) had to servee the war in some way.

2017-09-10 06:02:06 UTC

Generally speaking this was working in a factory.

2017-09-10 06:02:38 UTC


2017-09-10 06:03:07 UTC

I know it was practiced during the Russian Revolutio.

2017-09-10 06:03:10 UTC


2017-09-10 06:03:57 UTC

I know more about what the economy produced, not the means in which it produced it

2017-09-10 06:04:11 UTC

Quality vs quantity

2017-09-10 06:04:56 UTC

And Russia's quality was its quantity

2017-09-10 06:05:15 UTC

It always has.

2017-09-10 06:05:21 UTC


2017-09-10 06:05:54 UTC

I really get frustrated by moderate cuckservatives talking about socialism

2017-09-10 06:06:15 UTC


2017-09-10 06:06:39 UTC

Yea, just saying. I'm reading through another channel.

2017-09-10 06:06:47 UTC

They don't get it at fucking all

2017-09-10 06:07:06 UTC

2017-09-10 06:07:29 UTC

NatSocs get angry about quantity over quality. Like if you just admire quality enough it will magically change history.

2017-09-10 06:08:03 UTC

**Squints the eyez**

2017-09-10 06:08:11 UTC

Is that the little danger boy over there?

2017-09-10 06:08:34 UTC

@Anglican Socialism is quite the broad and interesting range of beliefs, generalizing happens way too much with it.

2017-09-10 06:08:42 UTC

Why aren't you a socialist?@Deleted User

2017-09-10 06:09:11 UTC

Well, at least he gets it.

2017-09-10 06:09:11 UTC

Because it only works in very small closed off communities.

2017-09-10 06:09:28 UTC

>USSR is small closed off community

2017-09-10 06:09:31 UTC

>generalizing happens way too much

2017-09-10 06:09:36 UTC


2017-09-10 06:09:47 UTC

Capitalism only works in small closed off communities

2017-09-10 06:09:50 UTC

check mate capies

2017-09-10 06:09:54 UTC

Feudalism is global

2017-09-10 06:09:55 UTC

shut up

2017-09-10 06:10:08 UTC

Wanna know something quality?

2017-09-10 06:10:14 UTC

The T-34

2017-09-10 06:10:24 UTC

Wasn't even meant to be a quality tank

2017-09-10 06:10:37 UTC

It's simplicity was its quality

2017-09-10 06:10:49 UTC

You need specialists to fix a German tank

2017-09-10 06:10:49 UTC

Not particular. But it was generalised enough to work in mass production and just throw it at your enemy.

2017-09-10 06:11:03 UTC

Any peasant with a wrench could fix a T-34

2017-09-10 06:11:22 UTC

@Deleted User >Collapsed catastrophically in 1991 and a miniature civil war took place following the events which lead to remnants of the union being purged completely from the government
Seems successful to me.

2017-09-10 06:11:38 UTC

Couldn it be other issues?

2017-09-10 06:11:44 UTC

And not the economic system within itself?

Oh boy is this the dank bunker enthusiast discord

2017-09-10 06:11:56 UTC

@Deleted User You just said Socialism only works on small scale. USSR was socialist and not small scale. Don't change the subject.

2017-09-10 06:12:27 UTC

@Epic Dadrocking Gamer Podcasters I'm a a Market Socialist and Fascist Dx

2017-09-10 06:12:32 UTC


2017-09-10 06:12:34 UTC

No Bunkerstands here

2017-09-10 06:12:38 UTC


2017-09-10 06:12:39 UTC


2017-09-10 06:13:26 UTC

@Anglican Socialism really can hardly compete with capitalism, only the soviet union mamaged to compete, and that was only after it reformed to become more democratic and pro free market.

But bruh the hurricanes coming only prove that Hoxhaist Posadism is the way

2017-09-10 06:13:56 UTC

>Socialism can't compete

2017-09-10 06:14:09 UTC

But it is MORE MORAL and more RATIONAL for the FOLK

2017-09-10 06:14:20 UTC

@Deleted User Right, and it still preformed mass genocides and collapsed in the end.

2017-09-10 06:14:23 UTC

Capitalism is a DEMON that has posioned us for too long, it needs to all be delt with.

2017-09-10 06:14:40 UTC

Exercised from our national and global spirits

2017-09-10 06:14:52 UTC

@Deleted User Collapsed in the end because they introduced markets into Socialism.

2017-09-10 06:15:13 UTC

@Anglican Now hold on there trotsky, you cannot get everybody to magically embrace socialism.

2017-09-10 06:15:28 UTC

I'm not Trotsky.

2017-09-10 06:15:31 UTC

And it won't be magic.

2017-09-10 06:15:52 UTC

Trots get the icepick.

2017-09-10 06:15:58 UTC

We'll have to work toward creating a world wide opposition to such a disgusting economic system.

2017-09-10 06:16:14 UTC

It clashes with all forms of nationalism that cares about maintaince of the nation too.

2017-09-10 06:16:16 UTC

@Deleted User And couldn't that be seen as them failing to combat capitalism and instead embracing it?

2017-09-10 06:17:52 UTC

@Deleted User What do you mean 'them'? Khrushchev was opportunistic and had bourgeois tendencies. USSR basically died with Stalin. Besides, this is not the end of Socialism. It keeps on coming back. Not so for Fascism.

2017-09-10 06:20:06 UTC

@Deleted User Yet stalin was with the rebellion from the beginning, so are you saying it was dead from the start?

2017-09-10 06:20:39 UTC

I have no idea what you are saying. Defeating 80% of the Wehrmacht is not a failure in management.

2017-09-10 06:21:44 UTC

Yet sending tens of thousands into the urals and it ending with widespread cannibalism and starvation also isn't a failure?

2017-09-10 06:22:35 UTC

War is difficult. Is this news to you? Also after the war the USSR was stronger than it had ever been.

2017-09-10 06:22:50 UTC

Just because they had military strength does not mean they were successful.

2017-09-10 06:23:45 UTC

It's a matter of smart resource allocation. If you can't survive a war, you're dead. Success is not dying.

2017-09-10 06:25:04 UTC

Poverty, starvation, and crime were still rampant after the war, just because they won the war does not mean that they were automatically successful in the long run.

2017-09-10 06:26:34 UTC

You just keep moving the goal posts. Thanks for the chat.

2017-09-10 06:31:01 UTC

I mean, if you really want to debate Marxism, you can easily go to actual dedicated Tankie server.

2017-09-10 06:31:18 UTC

I can DM you an invite if you have any balls.

2017-09-10 06:35:12 UTC

>Tankie server
I would probably get banned within 20 seconds.

2017-09-10 06:36:14 UTC


2017-09-10 06:36:27 UTC

Try it.

2017-09-10 06:40:05 UTC

I imagine the second I say something discrediting lenin or stalin, I am going to be screeched at in 15 languages and will be instant banned.

2017-09-10 06:40:56 UTC

You won't get banned. You just get allocated to Siberia.

2017-09-10 06:41:06 UTC

It's fun.

2017-09-10 06:42:00 UTC

But under soviet control, siberia is the land of the dead and cannibals.

2017-09-10 06:42:21 UTC

Okay, you don't want to play with the big boys. I understand.

2017-09-10 06:46:43 UTC

2017-09-10 07:07:18 UTC

welp, im back on this failure of a leftist server

2017-09-10 07:10:38 UTC

@Deleted User Welcome back.

2017-09-10 07:10:41 UTC


2017-09-10 07:11:41 UTC

@Deleted User some people never learn that communism doesnt work, not even digitally

2017-09-10 07:16:53 UTC

Only Anarchists have tried Communism. Even then I wouldn't say their objective is to make it 'work'. There is no way to make Communism work until all Capitalist tendencies have been removed.

2017-09-10 07:17:35 UTC

can you fucking stop giving excuses you stupid fucking cunt?

2017-09-10 07:17:58 UTC

whats next? blaming aliens that communism doesnt work?

2017-09-10 07:19:24 UTC

Well let's define Communism.

2017-09-10 07:19:55 UTC

im not doing this shit again, no.

2017-09-10 07:21:15 UTC

It doesn't seem that you even know the different between Socialism and Communism. Of course you're a knuckledragger who doesn't know.

2017-09-10 07:21:51 UTC

@Deleted User i know the difference, but your retarded ass wont understand shit

2017-09-10 07:23:12 UTC

Communism is global though. Literally, there is not way to remove the state until all bourgeois has been removed. This is not an excuse, it's just the reality; the praxis.

2017-09-10 07:23:28 UTC

You seem angry.

2017-09-10 07:24:29 UTC

and who the fuck are the bourgeois? those 60 million russians that died in soviet union? or those 50 million chinese that died in PRC?

2017-09-10 07:25:48 UTC

Bourgeois are those who defend private property. I mean, why are you even talking about Communism when you don't even understand the basic definitions?

2017-09-10 07:26:02 UTC

You're just another angry Nazi.

2017-09-10 07:26:51 UTC

well, this is exactly why there's no point in arguing with you, you'll just call me names and thats it

2017-09-10 07:28:28 UTC

Names? I only asked for basic things. If this is threatening to you, I feel sorry.

2017-09-10 07:29:00 UTC

nope, you didnt ask for anything, and nothing is threatening to me

2017-09-10 07:30:35 UTC

I wish reality was that fluid. Unfortunately the material process determines the past and the future. This is basic Marxism which you don't even understand. I am curious, how will you fight that which you do not understand? Is the ultimate theory just to dumb-dumb your way to your goals? That's what niggers do.

2017-09-10 07:31:11 UTC

Are you a nigger?

2017-09-10 07:31:51 UTC

as you see by the flag, no i am not a negro

2017-09-10 07:32:06 UTC

Fooled me. You act like it.

2017-09-10 07:32:31 UTC

>I don't need knowledge, I have attitude n shiet

2017-09-10 07:33:16 UTC

i do basic research, im not like the average person who swallows what the media says and spews that shit out to other people as if its true

2017-09-10 07:35:20 UTC

That's something, I guess.

2017-09-10 07:36:44 UTC

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2017-09-10 07:36:59 UTC

well thats mildly ignorant

2017-09-10 07:37:16 UTC

Ignorant of what?

2017-09-10 07:39:12 UTC

It's okay, I don't hate you. Just go easy on the edge.

2017-09-10 07:39:37 UTC

saying bash the fash is kinda stupid

2017-09-10 07:39:53 UTC

i mean people just blindly target other people and call them fascist

2017-09-10 07:40:54 UTC

It's a start, right? It's the beginning of activism. It's the first hypothesis in a social experience towards revolution. I wonder what the Fascists are doing? Domestic terrorism? How has that worked out for them?

2017-09-10 07:42:22 UTC

what the fuck are you talking about? i havent seen fascists burn buildings, wreck cars, set shit on fire unlike the american antifa

2017-09-10 07:44:09 UTC

Well, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt. There have been a few white supremists domestic terrorists. McVaugh, Breivek and so on. But if you don't claim those, that's even worse. Your side has done nothing to develop practical political theory.

2017-09-10 07:45:12 UTC

*Propaganda by the deed* my dude.

2017-09-10 07:46:17 UTC

once again, wtf. i havent heard much of mcvaugh, but breivik, he did a good thing, he killed like 50 of the young communists that could have started burning buildings and raise hell like commies in USA.

2017-09-10 07:46:34 UTC

and yeah ik we didnt do anything to develop practical political theory

2017-09-10 07:46:45 UTC

we're too busy dealing with shit we have today

2017-09-10 07:46:53 UTC

So now you get uppity. And you haven't even heard of McVaugh. How old are you, 14?

2017-09-10 07:47:09 UTC

i've heard of mcvaugh you idiot

2017-09-10 07:47:21 UTC

dont you try to mix shit up

2017-09-10 07:47:53 UTC

>too being dealing with shit
Meanwhile real Anarchists are taking the streets.

2017-09-10 07:48:10 UTC

At some point you have to do something of value. Otherwise it's just roleplaying on the internet.

2017-09-10 07:48:21 UTC

anarchists as those whiny college crybabies?

2017-09-10 07:48:32 UTC

Are they?

2017-09-10 07:48:43 UTC

most of 'em

2017-09-10 07:49:08 UTC

Your initial reaction is just to stroke your own ego, 'they are just fags'. But you didn't answer my challenge.

2017-09-10 07:49:14 UTC

**At some point you have to do something of value.**

2017-09-10 07:49:49 UTC

it aint my fault those youngsters were easily manipulated and brainwashed into being leftists

2017-09-10 07:50:04 UTC

and lets not speak about the gender studies bullshit

2017-09-10 07:50:14 UTC

Well, it's your fault if you want to change things.

2017-09-10 07:50:21 UTC

Don't you?

2017-09-10 07:50:37 UTC

what do you mean by ''change things''

2017-09-10 07:51:01 UTC

All I have seen so far is your complaining. Is your politics complainism?

2017-09-10 07:51:36 UTC

Anarchists take matters into their own hands.

2017-09-10 07:51:46 UTC

well you've started everything with a bullshit statement

2017-09-10 07:52:18 UTC

So you agree that your whole political identity is just impotent complaining and roleplaying on the internet?

2017-09-10 07:52:41 UTC


2017-09-10 07:52:51 UTC

All evidence suggests so.

2017-09-10 07:53:06 UTC

I rest my case.

2017-09-10 07:53:23 UTC

still, you cant accept that communism doesnt work....

2017-09-10 07:53:42 UTC

Communism is a stateless, classless society.

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