Lmao

Sometimes it's hard to say what is genuine and what satire in their case

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351172262721748992/353280120909201409/Antifagetsrektbyaleaf_c795eb_6374707.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/351172262721748992/353280240350527488/Bashthegash_abe528f3290ae192bda42e399e10acda.png

@ego_sum_jeffum Is that up in a back alley?

@Deleted User somewhere in Berlin

Allah Akbar

G-d is Greater, greater than whom 🤔 ?

>saying G-d instead of God

Nice LARP

@National Trotskyist

:^)

Kill the atheists

**Atheists aren't huamn**

In Russian "god" means reptile.

🤔

kill yourself

no one cares

Really activates my almond

Also the CNT FAI was right initiate a new red terror the only church that illuminates is a burning one

Hang yourslef

@Firefly#9983 Lmao in Polish it's gad.

@Occam's Chainsaw >red terror

But wouldn't that rather be a black terror? Raping nuns and shooting Christ statues I mean.

Mmm it can be either

niggers

In any case it was certainly not a bad thing

@olev wtf I hate black people now

Niggers are bad news, watch National Trotskyism

The plan is working 😈

@olev Wait that nickname, do you want to ban anime or something?

yes

<:shocked:344815513920077836>

>pol entryists

Go away hono

Homo*

hono

you honosexual

^

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4844296/Homeland-Security-deem-antifa-domestic-terrorists.html

How dis maek u feel antifa boi?

who?

feelsgoodman

@Deleted User No one here supports antifa, leftypol board is against it.

And good, they oppose the free speech, to hell with them.

mostly leftypol is just indifferent in my experience

"Federal officials launched a global investigation into antifa last year to determine whether they may start committing terror attacks, like their right-wing counterparts." lul

@National Trotskyist My experience here would contradict your claim, I have seen many members who have claimed to be antifa or support antifa.

here?

Yes.

Though I guess I should expect it, seeing how this is a commie server, after all.

@Deleted User You mean the Discord chat or the board?

Also, it's not a commie server.

@National Trotskyist *Discord chat
I keep getting the word mixxed up with server.

I would say a 4th are commie and a 4th of the people here are far right. The rest of shades inbetween

@National Trotskyist And who are you to say that this is not a commie server?

@Deleted User If you see people here saying "bash the fash" they're mostly ironic lol.

Leftypol is a place for various leftist politics, not just communists. In fact the purest communists are shunned upon and dubbed "tankies". This should apply to the server too, if not for the fact that it's entryist - Has been pretty much infiltrated by /pol/yps, who make at least 50% of it.

@Valtiel Yeah true.

On the board itself Antifa is seem similarly how the opponents of it see it, as a psyop, likely fund by Soros and similar people.

@National Trotskyist And again, I have to ask, why would people shun the purest beliefs in the movement?
And also, isn't tankie a term for people who are pro-ussr? As in people who believed in stalin who was the person who killed trotsky who was supposed to be lenin's successor?

Well tbh after Charlottesville a good portion of /pol/ was up in arms against neonazis.

It's was pretty hilarious watching the cognitive dissonance among these right wing tards

So I'm guessing the same also applies to the left to can extent

@Deleted User The term tankie originally meant revisionists, ie people who supported the tanked invasion on Czechoslovakia and Hungary, someone Hoxha opposed.
But due to the anarchist I think shitposting on the board all of the purest/hardline communists have been dubbed "tankies" and constantly made fun of. This refers to those like the Stalinists, Maoists, Hoxhaists, Juche, etc.

As for the Trotsky he wasn't even a likely successor of Lenin, Bukharin even had more chances for this.

@Valtiel A good portion of 4/pol/ are also conservacucks, libertarians, and ancaps. AKA people who have beliefs and idea's far, far, from what people like IE and VA believed when they were battling in charlottesville.

@Deleted User true. I've been on /pol/ since it was created and I can say at least 25% are some form of moderates.

@National Trotskyist I have met a lot of trotskyists and globalists, and I can say they would disagree with you on your statement about him being unlikely to succeed lenin.

@Valtiel And there is also people from r/thedonald, which are hated by most people on /pol/, and are often regarded as the most retarded and backwards group of people on /pol/.

Alexander Bogdanov should have been made premierew

His exile was bullshit

Who DOESN'T want a blood sucking Ukrainian as the leader of blood sucking communists?

@Valtiel
>A good portion was _____
>I've been there since it was a thing

Yeah I've been on /pol/ since '95

Nice to meet a fellow EPIC OLDFAG

Totally telling the truth

@Deleted User sorry i meant is. It stays consistent

Which is surprising somewhat.

I'm been there since 1969

90% of the "muh stormfags" posting are trolls and the other 10% are leftover JIDF

I think I've only seen Simon Wiesenthal Center shilling as of late

But I'm sure whoever pays them pays someone else to ya know?

K

Wasn't /pol/ centrist and slightly leftist up until 2015.

@Deleted User No

It was never anything

It was always a clusterfuck

No, it wa always right wing

No matter how much shills/trolls spam it the board will always be non-aligned

With varying majorities in terms of posts

Hell, /new/ was nothing but Jews this Jews that for a little bit

Of course since Trump has been elected it's been much more. But the stormfags have been there since day 1

Got good enough for Moot to get annoyed and delete the board

Lol I actually mostly posted on /new/ and when it moved on to 4chon /new/.

@Valtiel Stormfags are like bigfoot

Never was active on 4chan's /pol/.

You can say they populate the board

But there hasn't been a stormnigger invasion since many many years ago

And even then we're talking like 2011

No their population has remained consistent. They still make up about a fourth or 3rd of the board

>fourth or 3rd

Lol newfag

Did someone show you the pasta from 2013 where the sad JIDF dude blamed all the anti-semitism on Stormfront

I remember that thread too

Getting spammed

No. They have always been there. A lot of libertarians went to bring full nazis

>Stormfront
>Nazis

More like faggots

I regard them pretty much the same. Samr with other white nationalists

Muh huwhite state

Degeneracy is cool as long as we're doing it

Let's racemix with other white skinned peoples based magapede!

I asked my natsi friend and member of Nordic Resistance Movement about his experience on posting on Stormfront.

"It was shit
Just middle-aged Americans talking about swastika christmas tree decorations"

That and complaining about niggers all day

And that's why every natsoc makes fun of those fags

They're all autists and boomers larping about stupid shit

With no real doctrine and no real drive

Pretend they're representative of the 'movement' when they're not really in any particular movement

Most likely receive welfare themselves

Oh yeah the NEETs are fucking awful

They complain about lazy niggers and then talk about the NEET lifestyle and blame women on various things.

It's pretty hilarious

Then they say that the white race is dying. When it's only the fact that women don't them.

Want*

99+% of people who are involved with serious discussion on politics on the internet are LARPers though. Even people who are apart of Parties and Groups and are 'activists' are LARPers, because their theory sucks and I think it is even worse because they live in a fantasy world were nothing they say will ever come to fruition on a large scale.

Pretty much

@Deleted User Describing yourself too you know

I'm an individualist and anarchist, my politic view is not dependent on others or how effectively it describes the future. It is the most cynical view I know of. It is consciously cynical, and radically so.

Sounds 2edgy

But sure. I wouldn't know this if this too did not also effect me.

@Deleted User
>anarchy

Lol I kid

Yes, that's what I said. But also an individualist kind. Hierarchy, dominance and cruelty in the world might always exist, but I will not be ever be, at least philosophically, under the boot of another. This may all just be a coping mechanism, after experiencing the crushing futility of post-modern politics.

I am not even *that* principled, as to not also be controlled by principals. Like I said, it's radically cynical.

@Deleted User if you stay anarchist chances are you will always remain under the boot of more organized. True anarchy is possible only after communism.

@Firefly#9983 That's food for thought.

@Deleted User So you're an anarcho-individualist, like Stirner?

Yes. But not exactly a Stirnite, but close.

My ideas constantly evolve.

@Deleted User did your read Hegel, Marx?

I am aware of the critique. I blocked it out. <:troll_king:312064227542040576>

This is enough for me to think about.

@Firefly#9983 Communism will only be practical if their revolution succeeds throughout the world.

Otherwise, only very specific forms of socialism in small communities will work for now.

Yeah that was main reason for socialism in one country.

Individualism is another kind of idealism, because it causes me to block out everything that I don't like (muh Ego). It's an emotional crutch for sure. It is like morphine though. Completely numbs you the existential and practical problems. It's very seductive.

In the end you just give up all goals and convince yourself this is what you really wanted. In this Egoist safespace, the spooks can't get you.

@Deleted User what critic of Hegel are you familiar with?

Critique of Pure Reason, although I can't say I fully understand every part of it.

@Deleted User what is this critic about?

@olev Welcome to Leftypol Internationle

I was already on the server

you nigger

A community for leftists, socialists, and anarchists based upon mutual aid and freedom of speech.

Good.

What about mutual AIDS

It's what black and gay people have

Nah

We're not n*ggers

So we don't have AIDS

We're Juden

oy vey

we need communism

No

we need national syndicalism

😃

We need national bolshevism

@Firefly#9983 I am going to stop drinking. My brain is getting sluggish. I don't even know off the top of my head. Idealistic dialectics?

What fucking oxy mornonism is that?

What's an oxymoron?

Oxymoronism?

@olev http://www.dictionary.com/browse/oxymoron?s=t

No, I mean

What thing here

is an oxymoron

National syndicalism.

How is it an oxymoron?

You would be making a nationalist belief in a system where there is no nation.

@Deleted User No?

THat's not how ti works.

Syndicalism does not imply the absence of a state

Wasn't Proto-Fascism called National Syndicalism? And later Falangism.

I think only anarcho-syndicalism denies the state.

It's just a melding of Nationalism (fascism) and Syndicalism as economics.

That is all.

But tbh I've heard anarchists say nationalism and anarchism are compatible

Mostly ancap retards

Ancaps are retarded.

That I can agree with you on.

But, alas

a state is not a nation.

A state is just the shapard and guide of the nation and folk.

Nationalism requires a state

@Anglican But yet, I have heard that the state is enemy of anarchists?

@olev There's a whole tendency called national-anarchism lol. What is more ironic if you read those anarchist authors like Bakunin who was a Russian nationalist and pan-Slavic union proponent you validate such opinions.

Of course it is.

I'm not an Anarchist

I'm actually pretty authortarian.

Syndicalism refers solely to economics.

When the revolutionary syndicalists took it over, they seeked to take over also social life.

By dismantling the state and establishing their own.

I rush through topics and tell myself I understand them, because it is easy to use fancy language to convince others that you know what you are talking about. My ego tells me it is sufficient but it really isn't. I'm really just a lazy moron with egotistical bias. Time to get real and stop shitposting. Look at me, I'm an idiot, point and laugh. Let's get it over with. I'm a fake.

Which they just called governence or somet shit.

If you believe nationalist anarchism exists, please explain what nationalism is

Nationalism is the support of a national identity.

This national identity can be linked to a lot of things.

But culture, ethnicity, and ideals are veyr popular.

It is upholding the culture of the nation, and promoting national interests, correct?

How does one do this without a state?

I'd say it'd be VERY hard to do it under a voluntary assocation.

It might as well not be something you even fucking attempt.

You can't

A state is simply way more effective at this.

Nationalism requires a state

Okay.

I'm not an Anarchist anyway.

I wonder how Kurds would fit with this.

They're nationalist and pretty leftist, from the Kurds of Turkey to the rather anti-statist Kurds of Syria who filrted with though of Bookchin an ex-anarchist. They also never really had a state.

@Anglican Skimmed through the wikipedia article on national syndicalism, and what I got was a few paragraphs about the origin, and a poorly sourced 2-3 paragraph section, which did mostly beating around the bush and did not give a conclusive definition of national syndicalism, so I cannot make much of an opinion about it.

All that I can say, is that it seems like the bastard child of syndicalism.

It's my ideology; it has nothing to do with how it's officially seen by the wiki.

I'm not a tolitarian. Firstly.

It's literally just a melding of syndicalist economics into a fascist society adn state.

Apparently it is anti marxist, which I find hard to believe.

Dude...

YOu're being retarded.

Marxism is international and atheist.

NATIONAL SYNDICALISM IS A FORM OF FASCISM

Marxism isn't atheist

Just marx saw religion as something that will fade away eventually

And yes, Syndicalism is a form of socialism,.

But it came before Marx and is a market economic system.

Marx didn't invent communism

He never outlined how a communist society would function

Hold on, I need to restart my computer, linux is being a nigger

Yet it is a combination of fascism and sydnicalism, and it is a form of socialism, woulden't that mean that the belief itself is a product of marxism?

🤔

@olev Marx hated religion.

No.

Marxism is not all forms of socialism.

Marx didn't invent socialism

Again

Marxism isn't even a political ideology

There is a reason why we specifically make a distinction between Marxian Socialists (Leninists and such) and non-Marxian Socialists (Syndicalits, Mutualists, Market Socialists, etc)

And even if Marxian thought lead to the evolution of Nationaist thought from his teachings, the good ones

The distinction shouldn't be Marx vs. Non-Marx

would that not be seen as renewing?

It should be market vs. non-market

All are based upon social ownership and oppose capitalism

But non-market socialism seeks to abolish money and the class system