Let me find the article on it.

It's a Canadian Co-op that has been standing for ages and continue to grow through a good few recessions.

Hey @Deleted User refute this

worked out with the state? how?

would they erase my debt?

Well, if that debt is too big for you. Of course.

Also, I mean. Who do you owe it to?

The state bank?

It'd likely be the state bank.

well then, no reason to not take a huuuge risk in any business then

the state backs me anyway

Yeah, investments are parasitic...

investments are needed

Risk in business is generally non-labour related.

Just not those that don't have an effect if they fail

If they are required, then progressively and steeply tax them.

Do you follow TYT @Anglican

But it is a non-labour effort.

How much would you tax a big business?

Unlike cultural pursuits or physical ones.

A big co-op?

yea

I mean, co-ops would be at best just a part of a larger regional organization meant to repersent them and allow for universal decision making.

Some being only a factory or one store.

I'd say that they should have a progressive tax depending on size. Starting out at a very slow slope until they begin to get really fucking big.

It is not like I'm against economic growth. But against the obcession with profit.

obsession with profit often promotes innovation

No.

bill gates and steve jobs didn't do it because it was fun, they wanted to become rich

and bill gates does a shit load of charity

Exactly

When profit hangs over your head, you are stressed. This stress decreases engagement and productivity.

Limiting your in your ability to innovate.

>When profit hangs over your head, you are stressed. This stress decreases engagement and productivity.

People want stress to an amount, they want to push themselves

[citation needed]

Why do people go to a casino?

For the thrill of a game

Does it make it okay?

'Push themselves'

give them the same money they had when they came in and they won't want to play anymore

That's like saying you are more likely to have an accident when wearing a helmet because you feel mre safe therefore becoming less aware of danger

Pople can innovate just fine in their garages with flexable hours and a mostly unmoving wage.

*people

They should push themselves as hard as they think they should, why not/

Why does someone else know just how much I can push myself?

Well. If that is what thye want. But a constant assault on you due to the threat of your page falling because you are really down or sick while being the most productive member of the office.

*gay

*pay

FUCK

Yes but it's their decision, a bureaucrat doesn't know better for what is good for their lives

**Silence**

And the idea that corporations are just waiting to fire you is just not true

Am I suggesting bureaucracy?

well who will say how far a man can push themselves then?

Don't call it a grave, call it the future you chose.

Wait...

WAit, fucking wait.

i just picked up on something. Pushing onself to do a project good is not the same as having your lively hood in the balance.

Also, yes. Of coure corporations don't just want to kick you out.

But they can fuck with you real bad.

They don't tend to fuck with their hard working employees

They have no incentive to

Tend and don't are two different things.

It happens and it happens bad.

Some do, they're dumb

Well, smar tpeople are sleek predators

while dumb people are violent brutes.

This is the world we live in under the current society. in all honesty.

that's a harsh thing to say

They really believe this

Good people are stamped on by the system itself.

The dumb brutes you describe are your proles

Our society is the most relaxed one there has ever been

Rather classist no :^)

Doesn't change it... Dude

the system.

Not our people.

Why would the system stamp on good people? and how do they do it?

I don't care to continue. I'm jut gonna go do other stuff.

He gives up

It feels almost like attempting to speak to a child

haha

Unable to defend his flawed belief system

Not to insult you.

now the insults come

/r/iamverysmart

I respect you, but it is just frusstrating.

Sure you do

No! No, don't take it like that.

Now go

>YOU ARE A CHILD

M'kay

>.......NO DONT TAKE IT LIKE THA

God bless.

brainlets, smh

IKR

tfw too smart to understand history

tfw we live in hard oppressing times, not unlike the past

Tfw oppressed working class

>Posted from my IPhone

modern life it truly hell

*tweets on an iphone while flying 30000 feet in the air*

oh staff, another orange juice please!

The fuck is this

You better not be a communist you irish

We are here to annoy communists

Well?

I umm, I hate communist brother!

<:BernieSmile:236433853940498433>

@Cuban Pete If you aren't a communist then you're a bitchboy.

I bet you live in the west you communist scum

@Cuban Pete Yeah, I do. Your point, beta-brain?

AHAHAHA

Go move to best korea

have you ever lived in a communist country

@Cuban Pete Stop while you're ahead. I will embarrass you.

You don't get to benefit from our system

So go to your socialist paradise

free from western imperialism

I heard north korea needs people in some wonderful camps

Lmao. You are tarded as fuck bro.

that famous >if ur gommunist then move to norti korea xddd

This is the system you love

we should have killed more then

Lame ass propaganda from some lame ass bitchboys like yourself.

First hand accounts

XDD ANYTHING I DON'T LIKE IS PROPUHAGNDA

Not even the kgb COULD DISCREDIT THIS

you are lucky we have a bot instead of admin

Anecdotal evidence is no evidence at all. And as far as I know, those are fabricated accounts created by butthurt bitches.

Prove that they are fabricated

Ohwaityoucan't

The burden of proof is on you.

You called them fake retard

Now prove it

With your lame ass avatar.

>ad hominem

otherwise you would be banned after a good 5 min

Wannabe swole bitchboy that probably looks like a twig with a babyface.

Fuckin pussy

Not my fault you are too retarded to have one admin

that's not an ad hominem mate

Communist retard already dropped the argument

Because he can't prove shit

OOH I WILL EMBARRAS YOU

Pathetic man

Consider suicide

@Cuban Pete I never said they were fake. I said that as far as I know, they're fabricated. Until you can prove otherwise, I will continue to believe they are.

hey, if you didnt live in a genuine communist country, why are you hating it?

he insulted you *in addition* to dismissing your argument, he didn't insults to undermine your arguments.

@Cuban Pete I have no logical reason to believe those are credible accounts from credible sources.

See?

I never flat out claimed they were fake you socially-inept assclown.

Yes you do as you have no proof they are fake

Now hush

child

HUSH IN YOUR OWN STREAM CAPITALISM LMAO

reply to my fucking question dipshit

because it is a murderous ideology

Ideology can't murder anyone

Inherently so

People can die due to change in material conditions

i lived in yugoslavia

@Cuban Pete lmao. By your 'logic', you should hate capitalism even more.

Lol

Ideology can actuate such changes

Name one artificial famine in capitalist countries

go on

name ONE

*frantic googling commences*

If communism is held to such a standard, ongoing poverty in middle-eastern countries could be ascribed to capitalism

"Artificial famine". Do you realize how irrational that sounds? What the fuck is an artificial famine?

the middle east is shit because of interventionism

Famines that are created by man

What is so hard to understand

How do you detach capitalism from interventionism?

artificially creating conditions that cause famine

because interventionism was a thing before capitalism

so was war

And the ussr intervened in many countries

Would GOP neoconservative warmongers have the same incentives to crush middle-eastern resistance & solidarity without money?

money is always a factor

oil, for one

gold, for another

Money is a universal concept, capitalism isnt

both being particularly relevant to Libya

Right, and it will be in all systems, you're crazy if you think high people in the ussr didn't have incentives to intervene

Name one thing that should be free, but it isnt because muh profit$

Condoms are free

If you're claiming that any famines in the USSR were "created" then you're sorely mistaken. Only someone completely ignorant of the climate-conditions and policy would suggest that was the case. Take your propagandistic bullshit elsewhere because noone with even so much as an elementary understanding of Soviet history would take your unsubstantiated claims seriously you bootlicking cuckboy.

Gaddafi planned to create an all-African currency, and only really roused the west due to his nationalisation of gold and oil reserves within Libya

@MLM (TW) not even an argument

UR IGNORANT LMAO

what is holdomor for 500 alex

Retard

a communist calling people bootlickers lmao

@Cuban Pete You have nothing to argue against.

go suck off the state

this undermined western interests in balkanising African nations and taking them out of a global standard of currency

I'm not a communist

or a socialist

I just don't see your point

Get educated retard

right, countries have attacked before capitalism because they were being undermined

@Timo))) Herr derr, muh freeze peach and authoritarianism is bad derr!

Not a capitalism thing

hahaha

This nigga literally arguing for authoritarianism

Yes they are that retarded

sure, capitalism isn't the only system which incentivises this type of thing

doesn't mean it isn't one

Who the fuck said I'm arguing for something that is a constant reality whether you like it or not?

feudalism preceded it as its own mode of production

Gtfo you uncultured scrub.

>west

>authoritarian

AHAHA

@MLM (TW) you think what we have now is authoritarianism?

PLEB

wherein serfs and peasants worked for a feudal landowner on the threat of coercion

Study the past for real authoritarianism

I bet he is some 14 year old kid

are either of you even listening to me?

Who thinks communimz is great

I'm being fairly respectful

not really to other guy has my attention

because muh ebil see-ee-ohs

it's a false narrative to construct 'communism' as being diametrically opposed to 'capitalism'

Still no proof that the accounts are fake @MLM (TW)

Tick tock

@Cuban Pete You're dumb as horseshit. I'm a social science major. I study the nature of society and societal relations. I also study history. You're just another edgelord that is afraid of everything and has a deeply-rooted inferiority complex due to your undersized genitalia and lack of social skills.

I'm waiting

social science ayy lmao

part of Marx's historical materialism elaborates that capitalist structures of industry & production *must* necessarily precede communism

STILL

NO

PROOF