Lol

YES

FIXED THE PROFILE PIC

Nazi^^^^

Done

@Deleted User not a Nazi lamo

Okay

Zai Nar#0050 that's sick

Wtf

@Deleted User

Communism can't work

@Deleted User it can't

Never has, never will

Yup

I'd move the red lower

I don't tolerate tom foolerey

lel @Deleted User communism never worked

https://www.rt.com/news/397931-nkorea-can-hit-usa/

https://youtu.be/xZVIbYiWAHE

Did they really finally made a working long-range ICBM?

https://www.rt.com/news/397959-hrw-amnesty-privacy-shield-letter/

>North Korea may have a working ICBMand please don't stop.

Took them like two decades. I'm glad they finally did it if it's true.

Maybe now they can defend themselves.

http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1913869.html

**Daily News Thread 7/29**

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/135431849

** Communism General **

They should just nuke America now TBH

What a great message indeed

This is why people hate leftists

Who's leftists

@Deleted User I'm sorry for yesterday. Life has not been easy for me.

It cool

Your not the first to get angry at me

Lol

Are there any leftists that are holocaust revisionists?

It cool

What tf is that @Mimic King#0692

The holocaust happened

you don't know what holocaust revisionism is?

No

wow

What is it

Revisionism is a slippery slope, which is why I hate to get involved.

The position that the official holocaust narrative is inconsistent and/or impossible and that it should be revisited and revised

What is the ideology of this server

I see no officials

Oh god

It can't be

***COMMUNISM***

***aaahhhj***

Why does it say caps please

???

he means change your name\

No

@Deleted User It is vaguely leftist with the idea of unifying the left. It is the most open discussion you can have with leftist politics on the internet. There is minimal moderation.

Unifying the left?

@Deleted User Being a place where they can talk and organise together.

Almost every leftist community there is is a safespace that doesn't allow dissent

mostly because leftism is incompatible with open discussion

@Deleted User basically this

Not true

@Mimic King#0692

Not here. I will openly take your best slander.

And what's a leftist

that is true of all ideology

What is a leftist

I'd like to see a communist defend the holocaust lie

I'd also like to see a marxist actually defend marxism

I have no interest to. But Auschwitz did not have the infrastructure to gas millions of people. This is true.

I can defend Marxism if you want.

Do you believe Marxism is scientific?

That's the goal.

How can it be scientific if it makes no falsifiable assertions?

Historical materialism and dialectical materialism are both falsifiable.

We can start with materialism first, if you want.

More broadly.

Then hone in onto the falsifiable of Marx's theory on society and the material world.

Where do you want to start?

What do you think falsifiable actually means?

Give me an example of a falsifiable hypothesis

and explain why it's falsifiable

Every scientific theory must be falsifiable, which means, able to be disproved.

Again, when you say explain why **it's** falsifiable, which theory do you mean?

Marxism is not a single theory.

I just mean generally, give me a hypothetical hypothesis that illustrates falsifiability

just so I know you understand the concept

Sure. Evolution for example could be falsified if it was found that mutations did not occur. It would disprove natural selection.

Ok, so you've failed in two spectacular ways

@Deleted User historical materialism is explained by dialectical materialism. So it is a single theory.

One is that lack of evidence is never what falsifies a statement

@Firefly#9983 They are interrelated, but it is hard to explain it to a complete newbie.

@Deleted User Yeah, apparently Holocaust revisioning started amongst the left-wing French circles is what I was told on the main leftypol discord.

Might be related to huge anti-zionism and etc.

@National Trotskyist you know what else I find hilarious is that ethnonationalism was one of the primary platforms of the Soviet system

@Mimic King#0692 I never said that a lack of evidence was the same as being disprovable, at all. Falsifiable means that a discovery can be made that makes a hypothesis untenable, like my example shows clearly.

I find it hilarious because both holocaust revisionism and ethnonationalism are considered FASCIST NAZISM by the nu-left but are really classically leftist positions

@Deleted User one is based on another. It is a specific relation. It is just different areas. Logic is more abstract theory. But is united with less.

but you're wrong @Deleted User

a lack of evidence is never what shows that a hypothesis is untenable

@Firefly#9983 Okay, thanks for the correction. Maybe I should just focus on materialism first.

I don't see that in his post as all.

What he said hasn't got anything to do with a lack of evidence 😒

@Mimic King#0692
>a lack of evidence is never what shows that a hypothesis is untenable
I agree with you! How am I not clear?

for a hypothesis to be falsifiable, there must be a condition whereby evidence to support the claim CAN be discovered

So saying that "lack of fossils" would falsify evolution and natural selection is completely nonsensical

"Falsifiable means that a discovery can be made that makes a hypothesis untenable"
That's what I said numbnuts.

Right, meaning, contravening evidence, not a LACK of evidence

EXACTLY

a lack of evidence just means the hypothesis is unproven

🤔

it doesn't mean the hypothesis is unfalsifiable

so, you're confused

And i never mentions fossils, I mentioned mutations.

No, you are confused.

Your script broke.

GG.

Haha

mutations, whatever

@Deleted User materialism is not very agile. It needs dialectics to function properly. Many materialist are less agile than even some idealists.

it's not a lack of mutations what would falsify evolution

you're still wrong in either case

because you don't actually understand falsifiability yet

I know, but if mutations where show to not occur, this was discovered, it would falsify evolution.

again, you're completely confused on falsifiability

what you're saying is that a lack of mutations would leave the theory of evolution UNSUBSTANTIATED

@Firefly#9983 Hmm, I will have to think of a good way to communicate historical and dialectical materialism is a single way. Or not! When I feel like it.

that doesn't mean it would be unfalsifiable or falsifiable based on a lack of mutations

I don't think you understand evolution, then.

I understand it just fine, you just don't understand what falsifiability is

@Deleted User is hard man.

Sorry, I'm a retard, Marx is a retard, the holocaust never happened, and I want to stroke your penis.

For the evolutionary hypothesis to be falsifiable, there must exist a plausible observable condition that would prove it's existtence, which it has, thereofre the hypothesis is falsifiable

even if no evidence were found, it would simply show the hypothesis was unfounded, not that it was unfalsifiable

Marxist hypotheses on the other hand ARE unfalsifiable, because there exist no conditions for which evidence could be observed in support of their claims, owing to the fact that the hypotheses themselves are malformed and reliant on subjective conditions and definitions

i.e. pseudoscience

for example, the entirety of Marxian economic theory is predicated on the idea of "socially necessary labor time"

which is incalculable

therefore literally nothing in Marxian economic theory has any rational foundations, since the very unit of measure determining the value of work in their system is undefined and undefinable

Did someone say evolution?

again, i.e. a pseudoscience

Please, tell me more.

There is nothing more to say: if you can't calculate socially necessary labor time with any degree of precision whatsoever, then literally nothing else predicated on it as a unit of value can have any basis in objective reality

therefore it's wholly and utterly unscientific

@Mimic King#0692 ur kinda retarded

nice words

Price calculation is retarded

these kinds of guys

pretty shit

guys

we just need an ethno state

and a gaint wall

@Deleted User so essentially every hypothesis of Marxism cannot be falsified since none of their hypotheses could ever develop a replicable methodology for observing supporting evidence within an objective test case

Marxism is a subjective pseudoscience

with no scientific part

<:dynoSuccess:314691591484866560> ***Chad Thundercock#9335 has been warned.***

@Mimic King#0692 why do you keep talking like that

holy fucking shit

Because I'm not a fucking imbecile like yourself

Hahahaha

kinda silly to say so much, but not say much

kek

you could of just said

@Deleted User I thought you were going to attempt to defend marxism?

"Essentially, we cant really falsify marxism because we cant test it correctly"

which is really silly

cause we can.jpg

@Mimic King#0692 I can't even understand what falsifiable is. What chance do I have?

I've just explained it all to you

I guess you've given up

that's fine

@Mimic King#0692 what even are you

After misreading his post and going on a tangent

lol

I've spoken to you before, mimic king

No you haven't

You believe surplus value is a myth

im a god

I've spoken to you on leftypol

no, you haven't

@Mimic King#0692 voice chatterino

I recognize your writing

kek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D475tUzbodk&t=3s

sam hyde

You're the only person who apparently doesn't believe a person who has over a hundred million dollars a year in income from a single job isn't ripping surplus value from the people who actually labor over it.

You've never spoken to me before, dumbfuck

^mimic king

?

Why change your name?

ok, pussy

I recognize you because you talk so much shit

You just think you do

Anybody else here believe surplus value is a myth?

mrsally

i wish to debate gommunism

@Deleted User why did you give up?

I'm not having this discussion.

lol

nothing you can do about someone with a broken script

guys

debaterino me

You're not having it because you don't have a defensible positionj

and that's ok

maybe someday you grow out of it

@¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ey nigger

lets debaterino

what faggot

Communism is a political and economic system characterized by a stateless and classless society where producers own the tools with which they produce and benefit from the production of goods equally regardless of tasks.

It's pretty simple.

@¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ u actualyl sound fucking retarded

:DDDDDDDDDD

:DDDDD

i was putting on a voice

4 u

thx fam

go into vc fam

;lets debaterino fam

Nothing to debate about it. You're either for workers' self management or against it, and if you're against it, you need to spend some time in the gulag.

@MrSally free market is op

deal with it faggot

>workers are capable of self-management

that's funny

any coincidence communists happen to be fucking limp wristed millennial fuckup losers?

who sound feminine as fuck

Free market collapses every three or four years and requires more currency to bail it out.

maybe

just maybe

being a bitch

correlates

>the free market

with being a communist

@MrSally Freemarket

>bail out

pick one faggot

>real capitalism has never been tried

lel

yes it hasserino'd

and it workerinoi'd

Why does it keep failing then

cause it's corporatisterino

this rino'd meme is annoying

Face your legacy

it's not a meme