Yet they have the most democracy

Read the above

I did, it doesn't make sense

The swiss have always been prosperous

So have the dutch

I was talking of the danish

So the dutch can have more democracy than the danish?

Yes

lmao

They're practically the same country culturally

Different conditions and history

Nationalist Democracy

What would happen if they got regular referendums?

Why would it be so horrible?

Democracy can be nationalist

If done well

explain what would happen if denmark got more regular referendums

Why would that be bad

It wouldn't

As long as the population stays homogeneus and has the well being of the country as the #1 priority a "Democracy" can work

Im talking overall here

Wellbeing of the country, or wellbeing of the nation

So you have no issue with more democracy in the style of switzerland then

There is a difference

No i have no issue

Not sure what you were arguing then

As long as the conditions are right

Because that's what I'm advocating for

If democracy proves itself to be enormously successful in said nations, then let them have it

We are arguing the "American" Democracy that is so previlant in the western world today

Oh i see

Thats no democracy

American democracy is a joke

Tocqueville's vision became real

Democracy does not work on the Large Scale

Indeed

Well the usa is a republic first

And has been going along quite well so far

Not really,

Neocons intensify

How has it not being doing well?

can always be better but it's doing pretty good

What business has a democrat in leftypol im curious

arguing with socialists is fun

You can ask me the same

Im here for the same reason as you

Unless they begin hurling death threats at you

Honesty, I am from the /pol/ discord and I just wanted a good debate

Same kek

Are you alt right?

the similarity between commies and /pol/nazis is striking

Yep

No its not

it is

You havent analyzed it enough

In what way is it similar

Oh you said /pol/ nazis

Nevermind

Im not a pol nazi

''Holodomor didn't happen but it should have'' is a meme you see often

(((kulaks)))

stuff like that

Only russophiles say shit like that

they hang out in here

Or lets better say, D U G I N I S T S

although haven't seen them in a while

/pol/ blames the Jooos for all the worlds problems while /leftypol/ blames capitalism

people wonder why ukraine doesn't want to join russia

''Holodomor didn't happen but it should have''

Same Difference

Well they both seek to shake up the system

Why would an independent nation want to join an oligarchic shithole

Inb4 muh based putin savior of the white race warrior of christianity

Idk but cunts seem to think that they should be apart of russia

I hate duginists

Muh 4th political theory. Lets mix in aspects of ns and comemeism, throw some pragmatism in there to spice it up and pretend we have a fourth political theory which is just an excuse for russian neo imperialism

let's mix the most failed ideologies in one, what's the worst that could happen?

You guys should read foundations of geopolitics by Dugin, its fun. It outlines all the things the alt right is doing in america as benefitting russia

And it was written way before the alt right was conceived

Strangely never translated into english

For certain (((purposes)))

Any online copies?

Search at archive.org

Its only in russian

Alright, Thanks for that

Alt righters bite too much into duginism, i advise you read a lot about it and get enlightened

In what way, anti immigration?

No

Its a broad topic

I would need to write a novel long message here for you to understand it

can't just point out one specific thing they fight for that's wrong(helps russia)

They want to create an eurasian empire from Lisbon to Vladivostok, erase western identity for the sake of a "unitary" eurasian identity where only the interests of Russia remain

Basically "let us save you from the eu and nicely hug you and exploit you"

The eu and eurasia are the same coin, opposite sides

So Russia would love it if the EU fails, on the other hand the EU has it's own risks, I'd hate it if they got their own army

As long as NATO stays in tact it should be good, right?

Exactly, im against both but i think that this effort of detaching from the eu should be purely western, not induced and funded by russkies

Because then danger appears

The tale of Russia being our friend is an absurd fairy tale

the eternal russian

It wouldn't matter at all if the EU collapsed

NATO is still operational

Maybe not the eternal russian but they have no good intentions towards us

While every euro leader was critical when Trump said we should up our military budget to meet the 2% agreement I was very happy with his words

Europe has been to complacent, we need a strong army(not EU army)

Yep and that will start with the rehomogenisation of their countries

restablishing national unity and pride in ones people

A strong military tradition wouldn't be bad at all

Bunch of weak cucks right now in western europe

Tbh out of all the western world

I can see europe rising up the most

They have the most pressure to

We have a long history of conquest, never underestimate the europeans

I see, within the next twenty years or so, A nationalist uprising that will end in great deals of Bloodshead

for the Europeans

In kicking out the turks yes, not between european countries I don't think

If Erdogan keeps this up a conflict will come

I think hes referring to a nationalist uprising specifically against multiculturalism

Probably the single factor which angers nationalists the most

forced multiculturalism onto nations

it's very surprising how nations weren't given a vote or any say of the sort on this

They fear a referendum so hard, the few times they give hold them they get btfo

yet they ignore our vote and ask for a revote or blatantly ignore it

I have severe contempt for the big parties in my country (netherlands) because of this

I'd be very curious to see a referendum put directly on whether multiculturalism should be continued or not

of course they will never dare to do so

a new party is rising up FAST in my country that promises just that

I think he'll slay these weak europhiles

I wouldn't mind the EU as much if they more about preserving ethnic homogenity in Europe

although I think that is sort of an oxymoron

EU with strong borders is all you need to calm the eurosceptics, but that will never happen

I'd still have issues with the EU but that would be acceptable for most of them

Honestly, I don't think the EU is really needed at all

as long as there is NATO they have no purpose

not unless they intend ultimately to unite Europe under one flag

which I think is a sort of pseudo soviet union

They'd love to federalize the EU

Make it like a U.S, which is impossible because the differences are too big

Definitely impossible

Europe is a very unique case

Make no mistake they're maneuvering to do this, which is why we need out right now

and they blatantly ignore it when we vote against it, it's disgusting, outright fascistic

Communistic more like

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_European_Constitution_referendum,_2005

The EU is socialist

makes me mad still

They just called it a Lisbon treaty as shoved it through

They're Globalist Socialists, worst kind

The childrens crusade is proof Europe is not as cucked as it could be, as it once was

Probably worse now tbh

we invite them to come here

and don't even bother assimilating them

Parallel societies

Instead of assimilation

Yea it's the antithesis of unity

I agree is a problem

Seems most people on here are against mass immigration

even the more centrist, left types

or multiculturalism

When did the liberal become dissatisfied with the world being multicultural? When did man decide it needed to be micromanaged into ethno nations?

There is unarguably a first, a start to this, but Im not sure what government sponsored attempts at it before the rest

you're not sure how the government would combat multiculturalism?

No im not sure what government started the concept

Probably go with America or Britain

Maybe France

US was one of the last nations to outlaw slavery, and our non euro immigration never began i
En masse until after ww2 and when our economy boomed, economic migrants just like the africans headed to EU now

Multiculturalism became policy in the 70s I think

Can back this up with statistics too

Well the White Australia Policy was dismantled in the 60s

then in the 70s under the Fraser government, refugees from the Vietnam war were introduced

So the civil rights movement is around the time the multicultural attitude blossomed?

Not sure about America, i'm talking about Australia here

But I think the 70s was the time when it began

and the 90s when the sort of politics we see today started to birth

identity politics, green politics etc

Britain since after WW2 has accepted quite a few Indians and blacks

for whatever reason into their society

Im assuming government decision initially and not that of the people

Definitely

And it just gradually grew over time and evolved into allowing a considerable amount of cultures into the country

with a complete disregard of regulating their assimilation

as it was probably deemed racist or unnecessary

People at the time of the conception of multiculturalism were speaking out against it

Of course they didn't have any say in it and their protest didn't effect the decision

look up Enoch Powell

influential British Nationalist who forsaw the effects of multiculturalism which we enjure today

He was removed from his position in parliament when he gave his speech against it

They did polls at the time on peoples views on his speech against multiculturalism

and I think it was about 70-80% against Multiculturalism

which is fairly extraordinary

Because of course the establishment took no care in the world about the peoples views and to this day the policy has continued

I think personally they continue it purely because of economic reasons with an utter disregard to it's effects on culture, values and the native society

as it allows for continued GDP growth

and introduces more potential workers

although it comes at the loss of the workers who already live here

lowering the wages as companies don't have to compete for workers anymore

So to summarise, it almost definitely comes at the individuals loss in the long and short term, but benefits the collective in the long run

It's quite frankly quantity over quality

collective over the individual

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9/23/17

>using the autistic American date format

It doesn't make a whole lot of sense, but the American format generally looks better. 9/23/17 > 23/9/17

`09/23/17`
`23/09/17`
`23-09-2017`
`23-Sep-2017`
`23.09.2017`

all latter 3 look better than the first two tbh

what shithead wanted to use `/` as a date seperator

Eh

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