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are there any documents or anything that suggests this
I dunno, read one of David Stevenson's books
Probably more info in there
is this the only historian that says this
Nope
Max Hastings talks about this
Modern talks about the cause of World War I are often cop-outs because people are pussies and don't want to blame Austria or Germany like they should
You could argue Germany was willing to participate in a war against Serbia
but not against all of Europe
Maybe to an extent Russia as well
Yes, Hastings is just as confused about that
And that leads to his conception that Germany desired domination.
Just because some Austrian guy got shot, all of Europe goes to war?
No, Germany played a massive role in making things worse.
He doesn't have enough evidence to base it off, if it's just germany said they would austria in any way against serbia
Russia choose to help Serbia
and France choose to help Russia
Yes, that is handing Austria a blank cheque to do whatever.
Of course it backfired because Germany lost.
France and Britain would've never joined if they didn't want to maintain the geopolitical balance that was there previously
If anything their joining was a significant contributor
And all of the debt they incurred was the cause of the populist rhetoric that caused Hitler's rise to power.
and it was only powered by their geopolitical desires
Britain was not involved in the machinations that started the war.
France and Russia, yes.
Britain, no.
No but they were probably likely to join regardless
they didn't have to defend Belgium
But they willingly went in a dedicated millions
You mean they didn't have a pact with Belgium
a pact from like 1830
But Belgium was an allied country so they defended it.
That's just the right thing to do.
What Germany did was kinniving and evil
What Britain did was righteous.
The right thing to do, increase the death toll and size of an already horrific war
You're brainwashed
>good goys
>bad goys
To beat back Wilhelm, yes.
it's not that simple
They're both in the wrong
Not at all.
Without Britain's intervention, Europe would be speaking German.
Again, Germany wanted domination of all of Europe.
Very much so, they both had geopolitical interests in the war, which was the predominant reason for their participation
Same intention as the Nazis.
What, you think after Russia was beaten, Germany would say "welp, that happened", and just stop murdering everyone?
They would probably conquer a large swathe of eastern european land
Germans didn't want European domination
They were going for the whole continent.
Adolf only wanted back the land Germany had pre WW1
The movements of their military prove they wanted the whole continent.
Like west Prussia
Nazi Germany wanted America speaking German.
Hitler didn't even want war, lol.
Bullshit.
Hahhahaha
Not bullshit hahaha
You guys have a bunch of weird pseudohistorical ideas
It's like history isn't actually real things that happened to you guys
Revisionism, right?
It's like you only look at it from one side
There is only one side. The side that wins.
I think he did want war, but only against the Soviet Union
this here is a nazi site but it's good infomration here: https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html
"Peace offer"
"Everybody do what I want you to do, or I'll kill you, but if you do what I want you to do, we can have peace โค "
Isn't that exactly what we said?
After Hitler said it.
Peace with other countries @MrSally
i hate niggers
not with jews, lol
and jews
He said he's taking back his rightful land no matter what but if they stay outta his way then they can keep theirs. Quite respectful no?
Retaliation for the invasion of Poland and France is pretty much justified.
Poland is one of the last white ethnostates we have left
long live Poland
Lol
Enjoy becoming a plurality son.
not that im complaining or anything
but what is the logic in britain
@MrSally except he only invaded France to reclaim the Rheinlands stolen after WW1 and only invaded Poland to regain west Prussia
Is all of Europe white, or do you think some southern parts of it isn't? what's your opinions?
and their pact with poland
they said if germany invades they will declare war to protect poland
Absolute bullshit, GenZ.
I mean it sounds nice
but they didnt give a shit when glorious stalin invaded
so uh
@MrSally it's not
uhhhhhhh
opk
ok
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@MrSally it's absolutely true, nazis only really dug in in France once the allies invaded the mainland.
Germany should be thankful it was allowed to remain a country.
After World War II, Germany should have ended.
@Deleted User Some Southern European nations have non european admixture, but they're still European in my eyes and deserve to maintain their homelands just as much as Swedes or Belgians do.
@MrSally read what denazification was like
@MrSally read about the rape of Berlin
I know about all of this shit
Doesn't make Germany look any more cushy or lovely
So they just deserved it lol?
Yes.
No but it makes the communists look like beasts
Every single person who joined that army voluntarily deserved it. Every single person involved in that government deserved it.
Nationalism is the biggest cancer of civilisation.
The conscripted men, they were innocent.
Anyone who resisted but was forced in anyways
That's innocence.
By your logic, communists deserve the same fate
@MrSally so we're British men
im pretty sure it was women that were raped and not soldiers
, French men
Like Russian commies?
The ones who weren't really commies?
They definitely deserved it.
Gotcha
you're a commie
no way in hell you aren't
No true commie fallacy
I wish Stalin got a bullet in the head.
@Deleted User same opinion
Because he was only half Jewish right? Didn't have the full ashkenazi IQ to help right?
What is this projection?
Who cares about what people 'deserve'. You get what you get.
^ based
^
@Deleted User if you're trying to argue might = right then why do you stick to communism ?
>but muh non violence and peace and equalism
That's why if violent shit ever goes down, I won't think twice before popping some bolshevik tankie in the head.
Tankies are not trustworthy people.
That's getting what you get.
Principally, I am nonviolent, but don't think for a second I don't believe in self-defense.
Naturally by that philosophy there shouldn't be intervention
you quite literally get what you get
no intervention, deal with it
no spreading around muh wealth
deal with it you commie faggot
Hahaha
It would be easier to just make the currency worthless.
" But but but private property is theft from the commons " faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaags
Private property does not exist.
Might is right is for pretentious fashgoys. Rights don't exist. There are only material forces which determine reality.
It's not theft, it simply doesn't exist.
It already belongs to the commons, people just need to wake the fuck up.
Step foot on my property and watch me blow your head off and get away with it, and then try and tell me property is a meme
You don't own private property, buddy.
>implying there is only material and no human element
You own personal property, but you own no means of production.
But everyone owns it lol?
This is the fallacy of the western middle class
You think that just because you have an apartment or a car or whatever, it's "private property".
If I'm not leasing it it's mine fam
It's not private
It's personal
>muh property
>abstract idealism of space
Haha, get rekt
>I'm going to redefine words
>if you don't use my definitions you're a retard
flawless logic
priยทvate
หprฤซvit/
adjective
adjective: private
(of a service or industry) provided or owned by an individual or an independent, commercial company rather than by the government.
>picking definitions that match your own agenda while ignoring all others offered
The other ones are irrelevant
lmao
The proper term for a home is personal property.
>homes are service or industry
If you want to talk about communism, you need to get used to this.
adjective
1.
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
"all bedrooms have private facilities"
synonyms: personal, one's own, individual, particular, special, exclusive, privately owned
"his private plane"
>cars are service or industry
If you want to talk about COMMUNISM, get used to using words in this way.
Burn the books. Kulak war now.
>if you want to talk about X, get used to my personal definitions
>you cannot talk about X without them
If you want to be a fucking douchebag and dance around the point, then fuck off.
What did I miss?
Dance around the point? You're the one dancing around the point
Stirner was a hack
@Deleted User are you a Jewish brother
Oy gevalt
@MrSally getting rekt
Tell me the point this fool is trying to make
I dance around the end of the rainbow and charge $50 for a fake promise.
@MrSally if you're Jewish it'd really explain your intentions
Because I've made it clear thus far that a home, the thing you are threatening me over, is personal property, not private property.
>It is absolutely undeniable truth because I said it
>Since I said it, it cannot be untrue
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You're hopeless
adjective
1.
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
"all bedrooms have private facilities"
synonyms: personal, one's own, individual, particular, special, exclusive, privately owned
"his private plane"
My home belongs to me and Hereford fits private definition. Dude...
Everything belongs to everyone. The question is, would you want to use someone else second hand tampon. You decide.
Therefore *
Muh dictionary
@MrSally didn't you try that one first?
Learn to speak commie or fuck off
I used the definition provided that fits the context I am using.
Learn to speak fash or get the gas
You did the same, but it's not the right word in a communist dialog.
You are thinking of personal property.
>I will create a set of definitions for commonly used words and since I said so it must be the official set of definitions for X because I said so
MrSally, comrade
The idea of personal property, while an ugly phrase, is for practical reasons. Like getting AIDS and dying.
please say something valuable
or go home
Exactly.
No you're thinking of the private property of entrepreneurs and business owners, implying they should be owned by the retard who can't make his own business
This is practicality, to avoid confusion over property used for production "owned" by the bourgeoisie and property where a person lives.
Let's try again. This time in English.
These people won't make the distinction between private and personal property.
They refuse.
English is a social construct you misogynist pig @Deleted User
It is, actually.
They keep calling their house "private property" as if it's their company or something.
I'm not saying I want to take your fucking house from you you dumbshits.
Dictionaries are racist and ableist, what about those who cannot read?
Word definitions are a spectrum and we should embrace the entire spectrum.
Words can mean whatever you want them to mean
Private property is retarded idealism, and you enforce it because you are a superstitious zealot.
I don't enforce private property
I'll accept "personal property" is the way you filthy commies refer to "the means of production" but personal property IS STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY UNTIL YOU AS A DICTATOR SAY OTHERWISE FAM
I consider private property to be a myth
@MrSally Sorry, I agree. This chat is getting messy.
A little
And I have to go back to my wagecuck job in less than 10 hours so I'm going to go to bed
"Heil Hitler gas the kikes race war now" for example can mean "praise mao and stalin our greatest leaders"
At the end of the day, stop me.
Again, interesting topics
only if I mean it that way
"Heil Hitler gas the kikes race war now" for example can mean "praise mao and stalin our greatest leaders"
language is a spectrum
accept the spectrum now
Nighty night everybody, **kisses everyone on the mouth gayly**
thanks for the kiss sally-chan
Are gay kisses good?
No they lead to anal sex
As long as I'm on top.
It seems like you know a lot about anal sex.
Yeah, I do, doesn't mean I participate or ever will or want though, shits literally like summoning a demon, create STDs from nowhere
>summoning a demon
Sounds hot.
Read that blog thing man
>clicking on gay link
Try again jew.
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