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are there any documents or anything that suggests this

2017-07-26 06:51:24 UTC

I dunno, read one of David Stevenson's books

2017-07-26 06:51:31 UTC

Probably more info in there

is this the only historian that says this

2017-07-26 06:51:38 UTC

Nope

2017-07-26 06:52:04 UTC

Max Hastings talks about this

2017-07-26 06:53:11 UTC

Modern talks about the cause of World War I are often cop-outs because people are pussies and don't want to blame Austria or Germany like they should

2017-07-26 06:53:23 UTC

You could argue Germany was willing to participate in a war against Serbia

2017-07-26 06:53:28 UTC

but not against all of Europe

2017-07-26 06:53:36 UTC

Maybe to an extent Russia as well

2017-07-26 06:53:42 UTC

Yes, Hastings is just as confused about that

2017-07-26 06:53:53 UTC

And that leads to his conception that Germany desired domination.

2017-07-26 06:54:09 UTC

Just because some Austrian guy got shot, all of Europe goes to war?

2017-07-26 06:54:21 UTC

No, Germany played a massive role in making things worse.

2017-07-26 06:54:25 UTC

He doesn't have enough evidence to base it off, if it's just germany said they would austria in any way against serbia

2017-07-26 06:54:36 UTC

Russia choose to help Serbia

2017-07-26 06:54:42 UTC

and France choose to help Russia

2017-07-26 06:54:45 UTC

Yes, that is handing Austria a blank cheque to do whatever.

2017-07-26 06:55:05 UTC

Of course it backfired because Germany lost.

2017-07-26 06:55:15 UTC

France and Britain would've never joined if they didn't want to maintain the geopolitical balance that was there previously

2017-07-26 06:55:25 UTC

If anything their joining was a significant contributor

2017-07-26 06:55:27 UTC

And all of the debt they incurred was the cause of the populist rhetoric that caused Hitler's rise to power.

2017-07-26 06:55:36 UTC

and it was only powered by their geopolitical desires

2017-07-26 06:55:58 UTC

Britain was not involved in the machinations that started the war.

2017-07-26 06:56:03 UTC

France and Russia, yes.

2017-07-26 06:56:05 UTC

Britain, no.

2017-07-26 06:56:10 UTC

No but they were probably likely to join regardless

2017-07-26 06:56:18 UTC

they didn't have to defend Belgium

2017-07-26 06:56:29 UTC

But they willingly went in a dedicated millions

2017-07-26 06:56:30 UTC

You mean they didn't have a pact with Belgium

2017-07-26 06:56:38 UTC

a pact from like 1830

2017-07-26 06:56:40 UTC

But Belgium was an allied country so they defended it.

2017-07-26 06:56:58 UTC

That's just the right thing to do.

2017-07-26 06:57:05 UTC

What Germany did was kinniving and evil

2017-07-26 06:57:11 UTC

What Britain did was righteous.

2017-07-26 06:57:18 UTC

The right thing to do, increase the death toll and size of an already horrific war

2017-07-26 06:57:23 UTC

You're brainwashed

2017-07-26 06:57:25 UTC

>good goys

2017-07-26 06:57:26 UTC

>bad goys

2017-07-26 06:57:29 UTC

To beat back Wilhelm, yes.

2017-07-26 06:57:29 UTC

it's not that simple

2017-07-26 06:57:39 UTC

They're both in the wrong

2017-07-26 06:57:43 UTC

Not at all.

2017-07-26 06:57:57 UTC

Without Britain's intervention, Europe would be speaking German.

2017-07-26 06:58:04 UTC

Again, Germany wanted domination of all of Europe.

2017-07-26 06:58:08 UTC

Very much so, they both had geopolitical interests in the war, which was the predominant reason for their participation

2017-07-26 06:58:11 UTC

Same intention as the Nazis.

2017-07-26 06:58:39 UTC

What, you think after Russia was beaten, Germany would say "welp, that happened", and just stop murdering everyone?

2017-07-26 06:58:57 UTC

They would probably conquer a large swathe of eastern european land

2017-07-26 06:59:00 UTC

Germans didn't want European domination

2017-07-26 06:59:10 UTC

They were going for the whole continent.

2017-07-26 06:59:17 UTC

Adolf only wanted back the land Germany had pre WW1

2017-07-26 06:59:27 UTC

The movements of their military prove they wanted the whole continent.

2017-07-26 06:59:34 UTC

Like west Prussia

2017-07-26 06:59:43 UTC

Nazi Germany wanted America speaking German.

2017-07-26 06:59:44 UTC

Hitler didn't even want war, lol.

2017-07-26 06:59:48 UTC

Bullshit.

2017-07-26 06:59:51 UTC

Hahhahaha

2017-07-26 06:59:54 UTC

Not bullshit hahaha

2017-07-26 07:00:05 UTC

You guys have a bunch of weird pseudohistorical ideas

2017-07-26 07:00:13 UTC

It's like history isn't actually real things that happened to you guys

2017-07-26 07:00:18 UTC

Revisionism, right?

2017-07-26 07:00:21 UTC

It's like you only look at it from one side

2017-07-26 07:00:30 UTC

There is only one side. The side that wins.

2017-07-26 07:00:38 UTC

I think he did want war, but only against the Soviet Union

2017-07-26 07:00:40 UTC

this here is a nazi site but it's good infomration here: https://www.wintersonnenwende.com/scriptorium/english/archives/nothanks/wwr00.html

2017-07-26 07:00:47 UTC
2017-07-26 07:01:12 UTC

"Peace offer"

2017-07-26 07:01:29 UTC

"Everybody do what I want you to do, or I'll kill you, but if you do what I want you to do, we can have peace โค "

2017-07-26 07:01:42 UTC

Isn't that exactly what we said?

2017-07-26 07:01:48 UTC

After Hitler said it.

2017-07-26 07:02:01 UTC

Peace with other countries @MrSally

2017-07-26 07:02:03 UTC

i hate niggers

2017-07-26 07:02:05 UTC

not with jews, lol

2017-07-26 07:02:07 UTC

and jews

2017-07-26 07:02:07 UTC

He said he's taking back his rightful land no matter what but if they stay outta his way then they can keep theirs. Quite respectful no?

2017-07-26 07:02:13 UTC

Retaliation for the invasion of Poland and France is pretty much justified.

2017-07-26 07:02:29 UTC

Poland is one of the last white ethnostates we have left

2017-07-26 07:02:34 UTC

long live Poland

2017-07-26 07:02:34 UTC

Lol

2017-07-26 07:02:43 UTC

Enjoy becoming a plurality son.

not that im complaining or anything

2017-07-26 07:02:49 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339663835323432960/autism_intensifies.gif

but what is the logic in britain

2017-07-26 07:02:53 UTC

@MrSally except he only invaded France to reclaim the Rheinlands stolen after WW1 and only invaded Poland to regain west Prussia

2017-07-26 07:02:54 UTC

Is all of Europe white, or do you think some southern parts of it isn't? what's your opinions?

and their pact with poland

they said if germany invades they will declare war to protect poland

2017-07-26 07:03:04 UTC

Absolute bullshit, GenZ.

2017-07-26 07:03:11 UTC

I mean it sounds nice

but they didnt give a shit when glorious stalin invaded

so uh

2017-07-26 07:03:18 UTC

@MrSally it's not

uhhhhhhh

opk

2017-07-26 07:03:24 UTC

<:merchant:323550879749898242>

2017-07-26 07:03:45 UTC

@MrSally it's absolutely true, nazis only really dug in in France once the allies invaded the mainland.

2017-07-26 07:04:08 UTC

Germany should be thankful it was allowed to remain a country.

2017-07-26 07:04:18 UTC

After World War II, Germany should have ended.

2017-07-26 07:04:24 UTC

@Deleted User Some Southern European nations have non european admixture, but they're still European in my eyes and deserve to maintain their homelands just as much as Swedes or Belgians do.

2017-07-26 07:04:35 UTC

@MrSally read what denazification was like

2017-07-26 07:04:43 UTC

@MrSally read about the rape of Berlin

2017-07-26 07:04:49 UTC

I know about all of this shit

2017-07-26 07:05:00 UTC

Doesn't make Germany look any more cushy or lovely

2017-07-26 07:05:03 UTC

So they just deserved it lol?

2017-07-26 07:05:06 UTC

Yes.

2017-07-26 07:05:18 UTC

No but it makes the communists look like beasts

2017-07-26 07:05:34 UTC

Every single person who joined that army voluntarily deserved it. Every single person involved in that government deserved it.

2017-07-26 07:05:38 UTC

Nationalism is the biggest cancer of civilisation.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339664543821332480/maxresdefault.png

2017-07-26 07:05:43 UTC

The conscripted men, they were innocent.

2017-07-26 07:05:50 UTC

Anyone who resisted but was forced in anyways

2017-07-26 07:05:53 UTC

That's innocence.

2017-07-26 07:05:59 UTC

By your logic, communists deserve the same fate

2017-07-26 07:06:00 UTC

@MrSally so we're British men

im pretty sure it was women that were raped and not soldiers

2017-07-26 07:06:04 UTC

, French men

2017-07-26 07:06:08 UTC

Like Russian commies?

2017-07-26 07:06:13 UTC

The ones who weren't really commies?

2017-07-26 07:06:18 UTC

They definitely deserved it.

2017-07-26 07:06:18 UTC

Gotcha

2017-07-26 07:06:20 UTC

you're a commie

2017-07-26 07:06:30 UTC

no way in hell you aren't

2017-07-26 07:06:33 UTC

No true commie fallacy

2017-07-26 07:06:36 UTC

I wish Stalin got a bullet in the head.

2017-07-26 07:06:48 UTC

@Deleted User same opinion

2017-07-26 07:07:16 UTC

Because he was only half Jewish right? Didn't have the full ashkenazi IQ to help right?

2017-07-26 07:07:30 UTC

What is this projection?

2017-07-26 07:07:47 UTC

Who cares about what people 'deserve'. You get what you get.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339665085280813056/Z.png

2017-07-26 07:08:00 UTC

^ based

2017-07-26 07:08:15 UTC

@Deleted User if you're trying to argue might = right then why do you stick to communism ?

2017-07-26 07:08:16 UTC

>but muh non violence and peace and equalism

2017-07-26 07:08:18 UTC

That's why if violent shit ever goes down, I won't think twice before popping some bolshevik tankie in the head.

2017-07-26 07:08:27 UTC

Tankies are not trustworthy people.

2017-07-26 07:08:57 UTC

That's getting what you get.

2017-07-26 07:09:13 UTC

Principally, I am nonviolent, but don't think for a second I don't believe in self-defense.

2017-07-26 07:09:29 UTC

Naturally by that philosophy there shouldn't be intervention

2017-07-26 07:09:33 UTC

you quite literally get what you get

2017-07-26 07:09:47 UTC

no intervention, deal with it

2017-07-26 07:10:05 UTC

no spreading around muh wealth

2017-07-26 07:10:09 UTC

deal with it you commie faggot

2017-07-26 07:10:17 UTC

Hahaha

2017-07-26 07:10:22 UTC

It would be easier to just make the currency worthless.

2017-07-26 07:10:40 UTC

" But but but private property is theft from the commons " faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaags

2017-07-26 07:10:52 UTC

Private property does not exist.

2017-07-26 07:10:53 UTC

Might is right is for pretentious fashgoys. Rights don't exist. There are only material forces which determine reality.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/339665868092997632/tumblr_n1oz49SGXW1r9xoa4o1_1280.png

2017-07-26 07:10:57 UTC

It's not theft, it simply doesn't exist.

2017-07-26 07:11:12 UTC

It already belongs to the commons, people just need to wake the fuck up.

2017-07-26 07:11:26 UTC

Step foot on my property and watch me blow your head off and get away with it, and then try and tell me property is a meme

2017-07-26 07:11:36 UTC

You don't own private property, buddy.

2017-07-26 07:11:43 UTC

>implying there is only material and no human element

2017-07-26 07:11:47 UTC

You own personal property, but you own no means of production.

2017-07-26 07:11:49 UTC

But everyone owns it lol?

2017-07-26 07:12:13 UTC

This is the fallacy of the western middle class

2017-07-26 07:12:28 UTC

You think that just because you have an apartment or a car or whatever, it's "private property".

2017-07-26 07:12:42 UTC

If I'm not leasing it it's mine fam

2017-07-26 07:12:49 UTC

It's not private

2017-07-26 07:12:51 UTC

It's personal

2017-07-26 07:13:28 UTC

>muh property
>abstract idealism of space
Haha, get rekt

2017-07-26 07:14:04 UTC

priยทvate
หˆprฤซvit/
adjective
adjective: private
(of a service or industry) provided or owned by an individual or an independent, commercial company rather than by the government.

2017-07-26 07:14:30 UTC

The other ones are irrelevant

2017-07-26 07:14:46 UTC

The proper term for a home is personal property.

2017-07-26 07:14:58 UTC

If you want to talk about communism, you need to get used to this.

2017-07-26 07:15:01 UTC

adjective
1.
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
"all bedrooms have private facilities"
synonyms: personal, one's own, individual, particular, special, exclusive, privately owned
"his private plane"

2017-07-26 07:15:17 UTC

If you want to talk about COMMUNISM, get used to using words in this way.

2017-07-26 07:15:27 UTC

Burn the books. Kulak war now.

2017-07-26 07:15:41 UTC

If you want to be a fucking douchebag and dance around the point, then fuck off.

2017-07-26 07:15:48 UTC

What did I miss?

2017-07-26 07:15:54 UTC

Stirner was a hack

2017-07-26 07:16:03 UTC

@MrSally getting rekt

2017-07-26 07:16:06 UTC

Tell me the point this fool is trying to make

2017-07-26 07:16:20 UTC

I dance around the end of the rainbow and charge $50 for a fake promise.

2017-07-26 07:16:22 UTC

@MrSally if you're Jewish it'd really explain your intentions

2017-07-26 07:16:28 UTC

Because I've made it clear thus far that a home, the thing you are threatening me over, is personal property, not private property.

2017-07-26 07:17:01 UTC

:\

2017-07-26 07:17:07 UTC

You're hopeless

2017-07-26 07:17:09 UTC

adjective
1.
belonging to or for the use of one particular person or group of people only.
"all bedrooms have private facilities"
synonyms: personal, one's own, individual, particular, special, exclusive, privately owned
"his private plane"

My home belongs to me and Hereford fits private definition. Dude...

2017-07-26 07:17:15 UTC

Everything belongs to everyone. The question is, would you want to use someone else second hand tampon. You decide.

2017-07-26 07:17:18 UTC

Therefore *

2017-07-26 07:17:20 UTC

Muh dictionary

2017-07-26 07:17:36 UTC

@MrSally didn't you try that one first?

2017-07-26 07:17:37 UTC

Learn to speak commie or fuck off

2017-07-26 07:17:53 UTC

I used the definition provided that fits the context I am using.

2017-07-26 07:17:58 UTC

Learn to speak fash or get the gas

2017-07-26 07:18:02 UTC

You did the same, but it's not the right word in a communist dialog.

2017-07-26 07:18:09 UTC

You are thinking of personal property.

>I will create a set of definitions for commonly used words and since I said so it must be the official set of definitions for X because I said so

2017-07-26 07:18:28 UTC

The idea of personal property, while an ugly phrase, is for practical reasons. Like getting AIDS and dying.

2017-07-26 07:18:37 UTC

Exactly.

2017-07-26 07:18:48 UTC

No you're thinking of the private property of entrepreneurs and business owners, implying they should be owned by the retard who can't make his own business

2017-07-26 07:19:08 UTC

This is practicality, to avoid confusion over property used for production "owned" by the bourgeoisie and property where a person lives.

2017-07-26 07:19:11 UTC

Let's try again. This time in English.

2017-07-26 07:19:43 UTC

These people won't make the distinction between private and personal property.

2017-07-26 07:19:45 UTC

They refuse.

2017-07-26 07:19:59 UTC

It is, actually.

2017-07-26 07:20:02 UTC

They keep calling their house "private property" as if it's their company or something.

2017-07-26 07:20:18 UTC

I'm not saying I want to take your fucking house from you you dumbshits.

2017-07-26 07:20:43 UTC

Private property is retarded idealism, and you enforce it because you are a superstitious zealot.

2017-07-26 07:20:54 UTC

I don't enforce private property

2017-07-26 07:20:55 UTC

I'll accept "personal property" is the way you filthy commies refer to "the means of production" but personal property IS STILL PRIVATE PROPERTY UNTIL YOU AS A DICTATOR SAY OTHERWISE FAM

2017-07-26 07:21:00 UTC

I consider private property to be a myth

2017-07-26 07:21:17 UTC

@MrSally Sorry, I agree. This chat is getting messy.

2017-07-26 07:21:24 UTC

A little

2017-07-26 07:21:41 UTC

And I have to go back to my wagecuck job in less than 10 hours so I'm going to go to bed

"Heil Hitler gas the kikes race war now" for example can mean "praise mao and stalin our greatest leaders"

2017-07-26 07:21:48 UTC

At the end of the day, stop me.

2017-07-26 07:21:49 UTC

Again, interesting topics

"Heil Hitler gas the kikes race war now" for example can mean "praise mao and stalin our greatest leaders"

2017-07-26 07:22:20 UTC

Nighty night everybody, **kisses everyone on the mouth gayly**

2017-07-26 07:22:49 UTC

Are gay kisses good?

2017-07-26 07:22:58 UTC

No they lead to anal sex

2017-07-26 07:23:24 UTC

As long as I'm on top.

2017-07-26 07:24:19 UTC

It seems like you know a lot about anal sex.

2017-07-26 07:25:01 UTC

Yeah, I do, doesn't mean I participate or ever will or want though, shits literally like summoning a demon, create STDs from nowhere

2017-07-26 07:25:22 UTC

>summoning a demon
Sounds hot.

2017-07-26 07:26:02 UTC

Read that blog thing man

2017-07-26 07:26:33 UTC

>clicking on gay link
Try again jew.

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