And yet Twitter dominates our political sphere

We don't give a shit how we look because we're not liberals like you

A peaceful political revolution being quashed by a nuke? Guess whose cause is going to get a big boost against the capitalists worldwide.

>looks
Why are you so obsessed with appearances? Don;t you know that Capitalists don;t care about them, only they you die.

^

Are you a transvestite?

He probably is

?????

You think appearances equal reality.

>mr sally IRL: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-mKMMri4hfYw/T_OdvqIqWkI/AAAAAAAAGYo/cdr57fYDoKc/s640/OccupyPhilly4.png

The reactions to appearances are the first thing (and mostly the only thing) that ordinary stupid people think about.

That's literally the basis for your argument m8

Yes.

Yes, and a good theoretician would recognise this, but this is not the basis of theory, which is materialism. How dumb can you be?

People are stupid and judge distant events by looks alone.

Your entire argument is about appearances

Yes.

You're worried about how you're perceived

No.

In fact, my entire argument has been about making capitalists look bad.

>oh noez guys we don't want to appear to be mean to liberals or other reactionaries/bourgeois

>human perception is the basis of reality
Read Kant, you are wrong. The external world is not only what humans conceive of it.

Making capitalists look bad does not remove them from power

I know this, but in the scope of politics and economics, it is indeed.

Making capitalists look bad is how you democratically remove them.

You can't democratically remove them

They own the """""democratic""""" system

Prove it?

They own the deep state

Not that they own the system right now, but- oh lol

Red pill

"deep state"

Take it

Jesus H.

You have a very dim very of humanity. Saying that whoever looks bad will lose. Well, understand this. The final vision you have before your death is someone cutting your neck and looks bad, but somehow he lives! Wow, badness is not a death sentence. Unlike ignorance and weakness.

They have control over the intelligence agencies

which bribe and threaten presidents

I don't even have to prove it because it's obvious

Yes you do though.

They control the CIA, NSA and FBI

I know.

But the president can fire everyone in every one of those agencies.

Is this proof enough? http://www.newsweek.com/cia-has-been-undermining-governments-years-531609

Bernie would have actually drained the swamp.

They literally funded pinochet

Thanks for the chat. This is over for me.

Good luck out there, bubba.

Cya Chopin

I had more fun talking to you than Sally

Yes, yes, I'm sure.

The passive aggression was really needed there :\

I don't tolerate liberal cucks who deserve the gulag

Everyone deserves the gulag.

no, just you

It should be a requirement for the first few years of a person's adolescence.

I'm done with this sillyness

Mmmk.

Going to a better discord

that isn't full of liberals

You sound more like an alt-rightie than I do, imo.

I don't care reactionary

You are being a reactionary.

No chill, man.

@Revolutionary Nationalist link us a better discord.

can't invite to it

it's the unofficial leftypol discord

Lol

Sounds gay as fuck man.

Enjoy.

As gay as your liberalism

Not as gay as my space communism though.

Fag

**flicks wrist** oh pshaw.

issa meme

just a meme, *bro*

>just a meme
Why waste eyeball energy on random pixels. Back in my day, memes meant something.

When you sit down and think about it everything in the world is memes.

It's just that rarely does anything combine to make a truely gold meme

It is true. But the sad part is that people call memes what are very bad exanples. 'Just a meme' is code for spam and should be treated as such.

i wish black men were more like that toy so there'd be less crime

Humans and toys are both objects. They are both made by material focuses. Capitalism made the black problem, do not blame the toy for being the way it was made.

Don't blame people for their actions, blame something intangible

What kind of vague shit is saying just capitalism as a whole is why criminality exists?

Personal responsibility based on free will is not scientific. Only cause and effect is an explanation, unless you are a mystic or idealist idiot.

everything is a spook tbh

How come people who hate Marx and Engels have never read it.

Theft is a spook, murder is a spook

I never said 'spook'. You are debating a straw man.

Stirner is moron begging to be crushed under the foot of materialists who understand the reality of power of social forces.

tbh saying nobody has any personal responsibility for their predicament just opens the way to attacking scapegoats for things going wrong rather than sorting the situation out yourself

did somon say

spoog

https://scontent.fdet1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/19884268_1904044086475383_4489651127056586907_n.png?oh=2c1c553e91ded6953a4223c4cf12567e&oe=5A11C4C2

If you no not believe in the myth, how do you use it to blame another? Typical reactionary thinking, based on mythology instead of material reality.

what myth lad? The line of thought for me is simple, someone does action, they're responsible for doing it beause they did it. Commiting a crime like murder isn't from delegation by the all-controlling force of capitalism

I am not against punishment, but the reason there is murder is not by some moral choice within the individual to perform it. Murderers are made by their social conditions, not by some mystical force of an all powerful free will. That is the point of difference.

Capitalism, also being a material reality, must also play a role is shaping murderers. Can you deny this?

tbh that line of reasoning would put blame on pretty much everything for shaping a murderer and could be applies to everything from the grass being green to not brushing your teeth

a communist blaming capitalism for murders ayylmao

Why would capitalism trump other things when everything would contribute?

At least capitalism doesn't scapegoat random people (bourgies)

shitposting on the internet is a part of this material reality, has this post contributed to a murder?

Do you hate science? Every theory put forward to explain the world is based on material things not subjective ideas. Capitalism is the current social, political economic system, of course it is a major factor on human behaviour.

So why bother replacing it with another social, political economic system, you'll just have other (worse) problems

Your argument was "x, being a material reality, must also play a role is shaping murderers. Can you deny this?" the grass is green is a material reality, does that make a man murder?

Since it all comes together to influence the murder

Because class tensions have to be resolved and cannot last forever because there is pressure building under capitalism and increasing disparity between classes. Confrontation is ahead.

class tensions are not as bad as you think they are

tbh thinking you know reality because of observations is a bit wrong because at some level observation itself shapes things

Yes, in some very small way, even grass contributes to social conditions, because it too is material and exists in the world of cause and effect.

If anything the racial and sex related tensions are more a thing than class tension

there is hardly a proletarian to fight for, they're certainly not communist/socialist

You are very anti-science if you think observation determines reality.

While we can not remove the grass from any equation to observe changes in behavior we can observe societies living in conditions opposite of what our societal/material condition is, or lacking an element. I don't know how this would plug into quantifying if a murder was committed because of the grass though.

You're anti quantum-physics then lad

Economic conditions are the most powerful contradiction, because it is material and primary to our lives. Everything else is distraction that tries to ignore it.

Since observation changing the outcome of shit was something found with quantum phenomena

The people are in good economic conditions in the west

The double slit experiment lad, basic shit

I must hate science though, right?

There's hardly a conflict here, and it's mostly from college age kids, not people who actually do the hard work

the only place communism/marxism is big is in college

Try me on Quantum Physics. I studied Friedman at university.

@Timo))) What does good economic condition mean though? If wealth equals happiness, then it seems preverse that wealth is in absense of happiness.

You are a retard if you interpret double slit as proving the observer as determining experimental result.

Good economic conditions mean that the supermarkets are full, you can get a job (more so if minimum wage was lower for the lower skilled) and you have the feeling of being able to make progress

The last point is the most important

Shapes, should've used changes as word for that. Didn't observation change the result, though?

@Timo))) Working one of those jobs at the supermarket to get by, I can confirm I feel no sense of ownership of or contribution to the buisiness as a whole.

I can leave and be replaced, I'm another cog.

I'm assuming you're working towards something, no?

To keep my head up.

Putting food on the table for children, saving to go on a vacation? saving for college?

working now but looking for another job in the mean time?

<:rbl:312038341736529923>

What other job? There's nothing else here.

plenty of ways to progress, more than in any other system

you can work your way up in the supermarket itself

And there's little opportunity to freely change direction since it's all behind a paywall anyhow

paywall?

Yea, sure. There's people that have been there for five or more years and they haven't moved.

learn something in your free time using those free online university things

or those learn x guides on youtube

@Shaggy Blanco are these "youtube guides" practical though

>Implying saying I watched a guy on YouTube do it is any verification to the employeer that I actually know how to do that.

You guys a fucking diluted. Stop wasting your time arguing for things you only hope is true. Read a book, try Marx and Engels first. I'm done here.

People like confirmatory paper

tbh stack overflow is the mecca of programmers for a reason lad

@Deleted User my friend

internet has information

read hazlitt or hayek instead of amateurs like marx and engels

@Deleted User My ally.

Just use it right and you can learn all sorts

my aussie liaison

I got a new job and it's shit

<:rb:312038543046475776> it is time to revolt

Do you feel the hate for the bourgeoisie rising?

I am going to drop maoist redpills

Working class university students tbh

I am at a bar now

a "middle class" bar

the type white tourists go to, because the other ones are too expensive

>white tourists pretend to be kings
>go to cheap bars
Typical Anglo behaviour. Really subhuman and waste product of humanity. They deserve golden ticket to Gulag.

he'd be jobless without them lol

No. White people are not needed.

I don't think you can answer for me

tell that to mugabe

seeing as you are not me

but ok

@Timo))) He'd have a job if the shop owners didn't convert it all to machines and replaced him.

People that act like kings save money, tbh we need to overspend on everything all the time

that's why I went to bartending school. @AaronMk

but they hired him, not a machine

you can't automate bartending

because it is a social job

That'll show those evil rich people

With their saving money

@Timo))) But they bought the machine that replaces the workers who were otherwise making living wage doing what they were doing.

And these people were not asked if they wanted to be replaced.

your bartending school money is worth nothing without tourism

What are you talking about

they'd need less staff if only locals came

Do you really thing on a homogeneous island that whites are the only people who come here?

@Deleted User You should apperantly be grateful to foreigners

tbh I can't wait for the automation revolution in the west

they make up a big chunk of revenue, I know because i come from a tourism based island

It's going to be great being able to program robutts

Taiwan is hardly a tourism based island

White girls come here for plastic surgery.

tfw all the robots take your jobs and the neolibs ask why you're asking for handouts and why you can't just get a job

tfw the definate alienation of the lower class deepens

Should've seen things in the long term lad

automation has not led to a significant increase of unemployment

Instead of larping as a starving russian, yo could've learned to program

Or to be a technician

How dare I get a job that caters to the occassional white tourist though 🤔

it's a good thing

just don't be bitter about them like chopin is

I could sneak laxitives into your drink

How about that?

tourist spending their money in your country is a great thing, even though they might be annoying

Do you think I am complaining about tourists?

no but chopin was

I'm not him

Sorry!

I was responding to him and you took it personal

tbh there's a near-infinite amount of ways that things could be worse and not many proportionally where things are better

You mentioned me and my job

So is gud to just chin up lad

there is no reason for me not to respond to that

@Deleted User That is where you are wrong. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EJYqQdtd2DQ

@Shaggy Blanco And then millions of programmers and technicians flood the market to maintain the automation when maybe only five guys are needed per plant so now the value of being just that is low to the point of being useless.

negro i responded to chopin

@Deleted User no one would want to drink at a bar with a shitty bartender

And that's why I'm going to be a software architect

robots can't hold personal conversations

Where the brains in the operation is

And market value skyrockets

because if there's more programmers, there's mor need for people for those that can relay shit to the programmers

where software architect comes in

@Shaggy Blanco That's fine and all until everyone tries to be just that to get in on the gravy train, the wage value of the position drops out, and you have to start bidding low to get in too and everyone starts losing.

These neanderthals just like to type words and pretend to argue. Have fun chink.

muh classy chopin

tbh that#s just words

m'gentleman

Or what's better would be starting my own software company and then hiring programmers that are bidding each other down

starting your own business should be easier to do tbh

lower taxes for starting businesses

@Shaggy Blanco And if enough people got the same idea, or if the existing firms haven't made sure the price of entry is high-enough yet, you'll end up having to bid low too, cutting your own personal profits and lowering the wages of the people working for you.

tbh I'm going to try it after having a go at trying to work at somewhere like siemens after uni

tbh if I was able to bid lower than other companies by a significant amount while keeping everything else running fine, I'd be able to get more work and after a point might be able to make more than with higher prices

And so I become the rockerfeller of software

Make big buxks

@Shaggy Blanco Which is fine until you realize the larger established companies can do the same for longer because their coffers run deeper and you're just starting out with buisiness loans to repay.

So while trying to repay those and handle regular expenses you're going up against any of those larger congolmerates that can shut you out of the big leagues.

I've seen it happen many times in the tech industry

Maybe you'll handle a few accounts for other small buisinesses, but it won't be the dream you imagine

Making a business is supposed to be hard work fam, why would you expect a small company to even bother with the big leagues?

Get a league that's realistic

It's a casino of a sort, win big or lose

Risk vs reward

@Shaggy Blanco Because capitalism ultimately entails all must be devoured into a larger force.

unless you win

And if it can not be devoured, it must be destroyed

socialism is everyone chained to the bottom

And those that stretch the chains too much get shot/gulaged

well obviously, can't have inequality(>implying people are equal in their capacity to work)

tbh if company does get absorbed into larger force theough being bought out it's a pretty good win condition since still got dosh from it