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No it wasnt
And after the fall of the Warsaw pacts, including the USSR, North Korea went to shit
because of communism
No
Yes
Poland left unrelated to the ideology
Korea was still communist
Doubt
highly highly doubt it
Communism is hard to achieve and most likely will never be achieved
What are you talking about
its not hard to achieve it simply doesnt work
Im saying poland of course left because of communism not working
it was a mess
How so?
POLSKA
Wtf do you mean how so? It didnt solve their economic problems
people were still hungry and in poverty
Sources?
google it, its not hard to find
Iโm not going to trust every internet search
Mr. E doesn't give sources
The real problem is where *you* find your sources
I do when its necessary
Croatia was shit under communism
North Korea was in fact in a war
With South Korea
too bad, it not hard to find why communism didnt work
And the US was involved
No it wasnt
I know that, retard
not in the 90s
Iโm not talking to you, National
north korea wasnt at war during the early 90s
Oh ok
But my point is, the US destroyed crops in order to weaken North Korea
they had a famine at the 90s
No, it was to weaken the soldiers
not the citizens
and that didnt cause the famine
the famine was during the 90s
And all the war and waste of crops and not handling the mass population, thus caused a repeat on a famine
it didnt
And the 90โs were mostly when North Koreaโs allies were leaving the Warsaw Pact
North Korea canโt support itself
they didnt burn crops if that was the case then the famine would've happened much much earlier
then its a failure
It didnโt because of their allies
south korea could support itself
doesnt matter
Same goes for south Korea
it proves communism doesnt work
south korea didnt go into a famine genius
north korea did
I never said it did
now north korea is struggling to keep up
no its just struggling to feed its own people
One moment
smh
Let me get something
hurry
Inb4 Mr. E doesn't like the source
depends on the source
โThe Democratic Peopleโs Republic of Korea (DPRK) suffers high levels of food insecurity. Its harsh climate, mountainous terrain and lack of farming mechanization limit agricultural production, which shows a declining trend across all crops. A drought in 2015 worsened the situation, resulting in a 11 percent reduction in harvests on the previous year. This has led to a substantial food shortage, which is compounded by political and commercial isolation and weather-related crises. According to the 2017 report on the State of Food Security and Nutrition in the World (SOFI), 10.3 million people are undernourished.
Many people suffer from chronic malnutrition due to lack of essential proteins, fats, vitamins and minerals. Those living in towns and cities have worse diets, with many relying on rural relatives, improvised โkitchen gardensโ or market activities to supplement the food they receive through the Governmentโs Public Distribution System (PDS). The PDS consistently provides lower food rations than the Governmentโs daily target.โ - world food programma
And like I said, everyone opposing North Korea doesnโt help
because they are threatened with nukes
?
plenty of people are under harsh situations
Except you
thats the problem with the authoritarian communist system
because I live in a capitalist country
where Im not threatened
Whatโs wrong with authotorian communism?
the fact that it doesnt work and starves people
obviously
Youโve said that god knows how many times
Don't gimme that bullshit. There are harsh capitalistic conditions and you'll never live them.
But you never explain why
@Headshots no there isnt
Bull. Shit.
I did explain why
@Headshots name one country as bad as north korea
or worse
that is capitalist
just one
Thatโs not what we are talking about
it is
No, itโs not
yes it is
We are taking about conditions under communism and North Korea
and capitalist countries now
Alright
"I live in a capitalistic country where I'm not threatened." That's what I was replying to. Nothing gets worse than N.K., but it's retarded to say oppression doesn't exist in capitalistic countrirs.
Well obviously my source appointed towards North Korea wasnโt enough for you
So allow me to link you
I never said oppression doesnt exist in capitalist countries
A anti-communist myths denounced URL
Harsh conditions
I said its not as bad as north korea
Whatever
@Jew S U P R E M E what?
Auto correct
Sorry
there is a big reason why china and russia became capitalist
"Socialism in the 21st Century
New Facebook discussion group for Marxism, Socialism, Communism and related topics!"
this is the dumbest thing I've ever seen
Im not reading this
Imagine unironically being a communist
That doesnโt change that fact that there are actually sources in there, E
its too blue pilled for me
doesnt matter, sources can be bad sources
Does that include your *wiki* sources?
Im not reading through all of that amature "work" to be brainwashed by cultists.
Alright
Whatever you say
I tried linking sources and even copy and pasting but you refuse
No, because those wiki links are pretty good
Alright
Im not reading amature "work"
Alright
especially not a whole book worth
That shows how much effort and time you put in with your research
If you donโt mind, itโs 3:16 AN
AM
And I have to work tomorrow
Goodnight
Doesnt matter about time. It matters about how many deaths there was.
So cut the bullshit.
mr.e pisses me off sometimes. you refuse to provided sources most of the time, often just saying "google it" as if you expect us to debunk the entirety of the google directory or supposed to know which of the hundreds of conflicting sources youre supposed to be aligned with online and then refuse to even read sources spoonfed to you. its this kind of mentality of actively avoiding the other side's (not really, because afaik youre the only one that refuse to read other people's sources in this server) material that leads to nothing more than intellectual circlejerk without actually achieveing anything. its why mr.e has never changed in the past year he's been on here, its because he simply doesnt give enough fucks to want to read the other side's material
faggot
how about you do something other than sit on your ass looking at an empty discord server all day
"as if you expect us to debunk the entirety of the google directory"
I dont, I expect you to find easy to find info yourself. That way you get smarter and more independent. If its easy to find and the proof is right there then find it yourself.
"then refuse to even read sources spoonfed to you"
I dont read or watch very very long useless sources that basically say "Communism works" despite it being dead for 2 decades now and despite the hundreds of millions of deaths because of it.
"its this kind of mentality of actively avoiding the other side's (not really, because afaik youre the only one that refuse to read other people's sources in this server) "
No sometimes I read and watch other people's sources if its reasonable and/or worth it. So sometimes if its short enough or if Im amature in the field or if I simply want to know more.
"its why mr.e has never changed in the past year he's been on here,"
Except I have changed. A lot actually.
"faggot"
Projection.
"how about you do something other than sit on your ass looking at an empty discord server all day"
Make me, "faggot".
Just stop being fat
Stfu mutt
"I dont, I expect you to find easy to find info yourself" The people you're talking to are already aware of mainstream accessible data and most likely have counter-evidence to disprove them. You're just way too lazy and incomptent to show which data you're talking about, and if its so easy to find, then why don't _you_ do it? (note: just realized that its most likely that you dont even know which data youre talking about and youre just using the phrase as an excuse to find data you cant find yourself. that or youre lazy)
"I dont read or watch very very long useless sources"
Your crippling ADHD _really_ shows in this sentence, and you've basically shown your incompetence and laziness here, which is my main critique of you. You expect other people to read long, winded and more often than not, very vague and unspecific sources and can't be bothered when given the same.
"Except I have changed. A lot actually."
If you have, then it doesn't show. Maybe you've degraded as the year went on, but your character and views are largely the same. Lol at the last 'no u' and 'make me' you made btw, it seems like i've struck a nerve with you, the last part especially proves a lot of my points about you.
@Mr. X Iโm a mutt but I have better genetics than you when it comes to insulin response and metabolism haha
"The people you're talking to are already aware of mainstream accessible data and most likely have counter-evidence to disprove them"
Not the ones we've been debating.
"'You're just way too lazy and incomptent to show which data you're talking about"
No Im not
(note: just realized that its most likely that you dont even know which data youre talking about and youre just using the phrase as an excuse to find data you cant find yourself. that or youre lazy)
Im the one who knows the basic sources, you dont moron.
"Your crippling ADHD really shows in this sentence"
I dont have ADHD and like I said, I dont watch or read stupid shit thats not worth so much time.
"incompetence and laziness here"
Im not, thats a projection.
"You expect other people to read long, winded and more often than not, very vague and unspecific sources and can't be bothered when given the same."
No I expect people to read basic information they can easily find themselves.
"If you have, then it doesn't show. Maybe you've degraded as the year went on"
Unlike you, I dont degrade and it does show. I've clearly been far better than I was at the beginning of the year dumbass.
"but your character and views are largely the same"
Wrong again moron.
"it seems like i've struck a nerve with you"
you didnt.
"the last part especially proves a lot of my points about you"
Except none of your points were valid or proven in reality.
@Buy me a pc No you dont, inbred.
Yes I do, fat cunt
No you dont, inbred
and Im not fat, retard
Iโm not fat like you
You admitted to being fat
Wtf
No I didnt
And you are inbred though
genes dont have to do with fatness dumbass
Yes they do
Your insulin response is shit and this is mostly based on genes, assuming you eat low carb and OMAD like you tell us. You must have REALLY bad genes to still be fat
Not in my family, a lot are skinny and thats not why Im chubby. Im a bit chubby but not fat. There's a difference. And dumbass my insulin response is fine retard.
Im not fat I said, retard
how many times do I have to tell you to get through your thick skull>
I've lost weight recently even
Youโre T H I C C
you're retarded
also I've only recently tried one meal a day
@Mr. X your family is skinny because communism
I've told you this dozens of times you're so dumb
thicc boi
wrong
Stfu fat cunt
they're not skinny and you stfu inbred
lose some weight fatty
Im not fat, retard
Im not fat, retard
Just stop being fat
Im not fat, retard
1 BLOCKED MESSAGE
chub chub
Jogging is healthy
pork chops
Im not fat, retard
I dont need to jog
ok fatty
Im not fat, retard
fat boi
Im not fat, retard
@Mr. X DOg would run you down
no he wouldnt
Get jogging
he's pakistani for one
no gfys
Im not fat, retard
lul
my genetics are arguably much better than yours
no they're not
in fact, my father could bench 225kg
Mine are lol
No he couldnt
no they're not
stats like that are genetic
I have natural calves
Beat that
you're inbred natobo
butthurt irish ape
Loool
they're not
and Im not butthurt
or an ape
only known for being drunk wife-beaters
you are, goat fucker
butthurt
Nonsense
Not butthurt either
are the irish even classified as human?
you're only known for fucking goats
such hurt
Youโre only known for starving because MUH POTATO
potato nigger
If the irish arent human then pakis arent even intelligent animals.
Not hurt
๐ก๐ต
Said the goat fucker
wrong
its because of a potato disease and lack of food. Just shows your lack of knowledge
typical inbred
๐ฌ๐ง
butthurt much?
Not butthurt
muhh disease
Potato disease
imagine making that many excuses
its not an excuse
truly pathetic
its literally a fact
said the goat fucker
muhh facts
Nigga u country surrounded by water
you wouldnt know about fact
Stop being retarded and go fishing
you're a paki
fish, potato nigger
@Buy me a pc not much fish can feed millions retard
lul
then die out
dumb irish ape
No, we're not pakistani
shouldn't even reproduced that match
@Mr. X yes it can
Said the goat fucker
But die off then
No it cant
Natural selection
lul
No we're not inbred like you
and thats not how it works
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