Mises?

umm, maybe Hayek?

though honestly, read? do they really do that?

not gonna claim they dont'

they're mostly Just Americans who repeat propaganda they hear on Fox and Econ 101

though it seems many havent

for the ones that do read, it's mostly Mises and Hayek, I'd think

maybe Milton Friedman, though supposedly they like Adam Smith

pretty sure friedman doesn't want no state

the problem is that as an economic ideal, it really makes very little sense, so it's basically just American gun-nut "libertarians" who don't read all that much

the people who believe in it, I mean, the people who advocate against the government doing stuff who actually have power though, I don't think actually believe in that

they just want to concentrate more money in the hands of the few

Wether you guys like it or not, Hitler was left wing. He was a socialist. But valued the natural way of things and was very nationalist amidst a globalist climate in Europe. He is really hated because he kicked out the bankers and started a new currency.

Holocaust was a lie

how is he socialist?

iirc his definition of socialism is pretty laughable

he supported national capital over international capital, just a different part of the ruling class

National Socialism.

yes, and North Korea is democratic

Democratic People's Republic of Korea

^

It was state socialism where he had absolute power of the nation's social and economic problems for the good of the people

but there were bourgeosie

he even purged the socialists from the party

socialism is the elimination of classes, nazism was class collaboration

Haha. Just let what I said sink in

you're not really being original

really fires up my nuggin

you're bringing up old points which have been refuted a thousand times before

it's not clever, it's boring

only an american could possibly think nazis was socialism tbh

ehh, I could say some European centre-right people thinking that

*see

CDU, VVD, etc.

yeah I kinda take that back after writing it tbh

but I imagine it being more prominent among americans at least

probably

since americans have such weird political discourse

You guys aren't very smart are you

American political discourse is basically focused on people, along with stereotypes with very little actual thinking going on

@Dontkillmyvibe if you have a point please tell

so "Trump is crazy" as opposed to "Trump serves a section of capital which doesn't benefit from globalization, but is also against the working class"

not that Europeans are great at the latter either, but not so bad as Americans normally 😛

most pro-trump and anti-trump both come off as pretty dumb

well, I'd say all pro-trump and most anti-trump

there are some sources that are critical of Trump, but also critical of the American political establishment as a whole, which I think is quite reasonable

though saying that, I'm moderately pro-Trump, just because he fucks up America's image across the world and is screwing America's relationship with Europe

Obama made too many Europeans like the U.S.

accelerationism ahoy

basically 😛

is he really that different from the other people though?

the way I see it, he's just more open about it

mostly in presentation

yeah, exactly

4 AM huh

should probably fuck right off to bed pretty soon

same

@everyone Fish?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqhWpBxiK0c

LMAO

>completely misunderstands Adorno & Horkheimer

Why not listen to the first comment on that video

The comments on that video are cancer

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nXYy5WQn-l4

http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1849850.html

http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1839577.html

ok

@everyone fish?

I like Samon

I like salmon 🐟

I like sa)aslams

hello

Hi

hey

what's up

Nothing much.

someone sent me a random invite here

Nah, I just found this server randomly

het cuties

get your cocks out already

No thank you.

what the fuck homophobe

I'm out

Sorry to disappoint you.

http://8ch.net/leftypol/res/1850184.html

''free uni''

the fuck is this

did you all split again

HELLO

Being a bit problematic here fam.

smh

Ok weeaboo

;_;

@★Chickenoflight Dude they had like 4 splits and 3 coups already lmao.

https://youtu.be/WboggjN_G-4

why did someone DM me this server

<@147401250286075904>lboros#2617 are you left-wing?

people keep inviting me to leftypol discords

do I need to prove my idology again? becaue I suck at it, i'm impure as fuck.

do you guys have any s p i c y wallpapers ? I need a fresh one

I wouldn't worry

@Kunoichi It is ideologically non-restricted server.

_shrugs_

Well there are a lot of leftist servers

and while I admire the plurality of discour(se/ds), Part of me lives in fear of icepicks

anyways, i'm an edgey accelerationist who just wrote a twitter rant about how witness is dysgenic and how racism and racemixing are both praxis to destroy the west.

No bully trots. They might be dumb, but you can be my comrade so long as you give me the same respect.

Heavily influenced by Nick Land's "Kant, Capital, and the Prohibition of Incest."

Besides guns > icepicks

🤔

To be honest, I think all the infighting is actually a strength the left has over the right.

🤔

infighting?

The right likes to think they are strong because they are a unified front, but that also means they are weak and not as used to getting dirty.

while the left, rather than being a bunch of hippies, has lots of experience waging war, either ideologically or physically.

🤔

I disagree

The left is in shambles

It has no real presence in the states

It's the majority of millenials

Not here

Most millennials are right wingers

Where are you?

Some like reform I guess

I'm in the American midwest

what I'm saying is, Right politics tend towards safety and conformity

Even if they use violence and appeal to non-conformists sometimes.

right politics appeal to instinct

The non conformist left wingers just want a new conformity

to instinct?

we spooked now?

>instinct
>a spook

wew

How is it not in this context.

while left politics are more able to survive harsher conditions.

Ya know, why even question it.

"Left politics" general just thrive where people are miserable because they're arsed to do shit.

But I wouldn't say left, just populist politics.

Violence in political rhetoric is usually a trait of the far-right in europe

Unless you know

revolution

Violence is used by both sides fairly often

I mean that with fascism there's a fetish with it

like in Italian fascism

where it's part of the ideology

Facism is much more than a fetish for violence

lefties do like to pretend violence is necessary

and we do use it as justification for things

it might be a necessary thing, I think it is.

i think the important part of facism, is the fetishization of racily pure peasant farmers.

Nick land Explains this in Making it with death.

Well he goes over a bunch of important parts of facism

it isn't one thing

but the part that struck me the most was one particular line.

let me see if I can google it

4) Foster nostalgia for what is maximally bovine, inflexible, andstagnant: a line of racially pure peasants digging the same patchof earth for eternity.

that's the important part fo rme

the other bits are important too, but that's the biggest diffrence between me and a Nazi.

sexy

I'll post the rest in english theroy

I think that's just more of an important concept in eugenics if anything

Well, it's hard to imagine Nazis without Eugenics

On the other hand I'm also in favor of a form of Eugenics that is violently anti-nazi.

I want people to race mix to ensure the health of the species.

Purity is toxic. You don't want to drink bleach.

It can become a problem yeah.

Problem isn't racemixing

just when it becomes out of control

non-integration becomes colonization

America does it pretty well most of the time.

Europe is the one fucking up, it seems

Europeans are kind of just awful, and of course would screw up.

Sad!

We need to remember the problem in the immigrants. It's how we handle the situation.

Immigration isn't anything new, here in the US it's had it's fair share of issues.

One could argue that the importation of slaves is a form of immigration.

But we've got a very strong, powerful culture that lends itself reasonably well to immigrants.

All sucessful empires have imported forigen humans in one way or another

No sucessful empires have ever been racialy pure and isolationist.

Those kinds of cultures get conquered and enslaved.

so Isolationism should be right out as a solution to any problem by either the left or right.

Well the purity remains in allowing them to breed amongst themselves

which is what we used to do in the US back when niggers were slaves.

Borders are spooks

If the modern right thinks they can wall themselves in and be successful, they are deluding themselves.

which is what you do with pets anyway

I don't think Americans are interested in building empires, but I agree with the sentiment.

you breed pets you like and let them continue their line. it is a form of symbiosis

wewlad

i wish slavery was legal tbh fam

Illegitimate hierarchies should be abolished tbh fam

You're not gonna put a leash on me.

Illegitimate hierarchies always abolish themselves

[autistic screeching]

and even so called Legitimate ones are only temporary

only the weak fear the leash

hierarchy is just building blocks up to knock them down.

sounds vaguely familiar...

I think Reprehensible is on his way to being leashed

if he thinks that breeding among members of the same group can maintain genetic diversity

There's always some outbreeding

sometimes people fuck dogs

some people are into domination

there were obviously slaves that got bred

what did he mean by this?

besides, who says the slaves need to be niggers?

who says there needs to be slaves?

the people who want to be enslaved

oubviously

All races have individuals that are inferior and or subservient

such as yourself, or else you wouldn't be wearing the label reprehensible

and plenty of people choose to voluntarily be a slave

it's cruel not to allow them to be slave wouldnt you say :p

I think that's a pretty good sign of an inferiority complex, and submissive personality

quite the contrary

but nice projection

whatever you say

we'll see how this turns out.

>someone talks about enslaving people
>assume they want to be the slave

Is this erp?

yes

there's a reason why you make assumptions like that

because thats the first thing you think yourself

what if I'm just leading you on?

sure bruv

The idea is that authoritarianism appeals to the weak-willed. People make this claim a lot.

Weird cuz the only people it doesn't appeal to are the people currently failing

Oh

rip

fuck those guys tbh

it's almost as if people who aren't confident at achieving positions of power don't want there to be rigid power structures in place

Actualy

im just memeing btw

it appeals a lot to people who are currently failing

government is a coercive force and should be abolished etc

the alt-light are nothing if not failsons

alt right are jokes

yes

national socialists are dogs without a leader

yes

:o

kek

I'm not a big fan of left unity

there's a bunch of idiot leftists who I don't like

I'm sure it frightens right-wingers and stalinists alike

ehh

you haven't seen the German left

anti-deutsche, they're horrible