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2018-05-22 16:43:10 UTC

Kys

2018-05-22 16:43:19 UTC

@Deleted User What an argument.

@Deleted User ive been talking about automisation and liberty this whole time

2018-05-22 16:43:24 UTC

Fuck off civilian nigger

2018-05-22 16:43:42 UTC

@Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช Okay and how were apples relevant in this?

2018-05-22 16:44:05 UTC

The guy who says servicemen aren't people wants to talk about real arguements

@Deleted User it shows how even though with a surplus of food people were still starving and unneeded jobs were still being created

2018-05-22 16:44:38 UTC

@Deleted User Do you not get sarcasm?

2018-05-22 16:44:50 UTC

Do you not understand discipline

as i said automisation is coming

2018-05-22 16:44:58 UTC

Fuck if

2018-05-22 16:45:03 UTC

It

2018-05-22 16:45:07 UTC

Manpower is needed

and with it liberty and bread

2018-05-22 16:45:12 UTC

Discipline is needed

2018-05-22 16:45:29 UTC

@Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช Oh fucking hell I thought you were talking about atomization from your shitty spelling.

2018-05-22 16:45:41 UTC

What's to stop the elite from realizing they don't need a trained population any more

automisation

2018-05-22 16:45:58 UTC

Just killing us off

2018-05-22 16:46:34 UTC
2018-05-22 16:46:36 UTC

automation

2018-05-22 16:46:44 UTC

Fuck transhumanism and fuck automation

no

2018-05-22 16:46:55 UTC

that's a lot of fucking

@DA GOMMIE JOO shit education system

2018-05-22 16:47:21 UTC

@Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช The reason people were going hungry in the depression was because banks went out of business and people lost all of their money as a result, and some weren't able to find or purchase food as a result.

but there was vast quantities of food

i understand why people still starved

but in a socialist or communist mode of production ever mouth would have been fed

2018-05-22 18:20:02 UTC

@Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช In theory, not in execution, proven in china, vietnam, russia, and cambodia.

*good in theory bad in practice*

okay

2018-05-22 18:21:50 UTC

"russia"
tfw never having a famine after collectivizing the farms is bad

the ussr only had food problems three times in its history.
during industrialization
during world war two
and during gorbachev's rule

only once was there food problems due to economic restraints

and also. its not like there was a surplus of food in peasant back-water russia

stalin fixed that and then there was pressure due to the war

same as with Britain France and Germany ect

holodomor was a farce, the black book of communism as good a piece of evidence for why communism doesn't work as me typing out a txt document full of numbers and then ending it with "innocents killed under *leader*"

2018-05-22 18:26:11 UTC

tankies everywhere

im an anarchist

2018-05-22 18:26:31 UTC

Stalin killed Jews so Stalin is alright in my books

kewl

jewlauks

2018-05-22 18:27:11 UTC

communism has a serious jewish problem

2018-05-22 18:27:16 UTC

you guys need to sort it out

2018-05-22 18:27:26 UTC

The thing is Jews have no loyality

no no no no no

2018-05-22 18:27:36 UTC

look at free market scum

the jeudo-bolshevik myth

2018-05-22 18:27:40 UTC

Ayn Rand

2018-05-22 18:27:45 UTC

Milton Friedman

2018-05-22 18:27:52 UTC

they all ancap shits

rothbard

2018-05-22 18:28:03 UTC

exactly

2018-05-22 18:28:08 UTC

you can't trust a jew

2018-05-22 18:28:12 UTC

the jewish autonomous oblast's flag

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/448552679057129472/360px-Flag_of_the_Jewish_Autonomous_Oblast.png

2018-05-22 18:28:20 UTC

gay

2018-05-22 18:28:25 UTC

gey

2018-05-22 18:30:30 UTC

16,6% is still alot ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-05-22 18:30:46 UTC

when they don't even make up 1 % of the population

partly because *trotsky* hated the tsars anti-semitism

it was just reactionary opportunism

2018-05-22 18:31:32 UTC

Didn't know that the Tsar was anti-semitic

2018-05-22 18:31:34 UTC

wtf

2018-05-22 18:31:45 UTC

I love the Tsar now

no no no no no

you don't get my point

the tsar was an anti-semite and trotsky hated that

2018-05-22 18:33:20 UTC

So you saying Trotsky meme'd communism being run by jews to troll the tsar?

im saying Trotsky was a menshevik opportunist who supported the bolshevik party just because they went against the tsar

2018-05-22 18:35:33 UTC

stalin knew a lot about cannibalism didn't he

2018-05-22 18:36:19 UTC

what is menshevik?

2018-05-22 18:36:43 UTC

menshevik, more like memeshevik

@Nikola Tesla (Joshua) no he didn't since there hadn't been a famine after he industrialised and collectivized the farms

also holodohoax

2018-05-22 18:37:00 UTC

google says they social democrats

trotsky was a member

2018-05-22 18:37:17 UTC

why is he comparing something to something he has no understanding of then?

2018-05-22 18:37:28 UTC

i mean that quote is useless if he dones't know wht cannibalism is

2018-05-22 18:37:49 UTC

@Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช so what happened with holodomor?

2018-05-22 18:37:51 UTC

just sayin

he knows what cannibalism is

its called an analogy

2018-05-22 18:38:06 UTC

haha, you just said he didn't

2018-05-22 18:38:12 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-05-22 18:38:20 UTC

also @Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช what happened with Lysenko?

2018-05-22 18:38:37 UTC

^

you said hed know alot about cannibalism and im saying he wouldn't know more than the average person

@Nogals what do you mean what happend to him?

he died in 1976 at 78

@Deleted User shut mouth liberal

2018-05-22 18:41:41 UTC

@Erika.ฯŸฯŸ๐Ÿ‡ฎ๐Ÿ‡ช with regards to the situation, and the millions dying as a result of his policies

2018-05-22 18:41:49 UTC

also @Deleted User is retarded

@Nogals holodomar didn't happen, the 100 million is a joke

2018-05-22 18:42:35 UTC

So what happened?

i mean

there was food problems but there weren't deaths especially to that extent

there was a famine in ukraine

2018-05-22 18:43:52 UTC

I've never heard of 100 million being thrown around

ii

ik

thats from a book called the black book of communism

2018-05-22 18:44:21 UTC

but the result of the of the policies not the intention

2018-05-22 18:45:23 UTC

I'm not Ukrainian or anything

2018-05-22 18:45:34 UTC

just legit curious about what you believe

i didn't assume so

but there was during stalins time a famine in ukraine and then food problems due to ww2

2018-05-22 18:46:26 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/448557267638288394/image.png

2018-05-22 18:46:37 UTC

the meme talks about bad weather but Lysenko's whole thing was applying socialist theory to plants

2018-05-22 18:46:42 UTC

๐Ÿ˜‚

the idea of stalin intetionally killing gorrialins of innocents has been debunked time and time again

2018-05-22 18:46:59 UTC

im getting memed right and left what is this

2018-05-22 18:47:11 UTC

i mean left nd left

2018-05-22 18:47:18 UTC

I didn't say Stalin intentionally killed people

people do though

2018-05-22 18:47:47 UTC

I also don't believe hitler killed jews, never mind 6 million

2018-05-22 18:48:00 UTC

people love to throw numbers around

2018-05-22 18:48:11 UTC

without thinking if its actually possible

i understand holocaust denile

and ik it wasn't 6 million even if it did happen

2018-05-22 18:50:08 UTC

hol the fuck im uh filling a uh copywrite enfringement on your ass

2018-05-22 18:50:14 UTC

I just had to post that screenshot because your response was gold joshua

2018-05-22 18:50:20 UTC

I love it

2018-05-22 18:50:42 UTC

it's ok :3

epic

im an anarcho cannibal

2018-05-22 18:55:32 UTC

I like this meme

2018-05-22 18:55:35 UTC

I will steal

i already stole it

2018-05-22 18:56:42 UTC

its property of the channel

2018-05-22 18:56:50 UTC

all people should be able to use it

2018-05-22 18:56:53 UTC

not stealing

2018-05-22 18:57:02 UTC

isn't this what you believe?

2018-05-22 18:57:02 UTC

its uh

2018-05-22 18:57:05 UTC

communism

property is a *spook*

2018-05-22 18:57:31 UTC

oh Stirner

stirnerite national makhnovism

2018-05-22 18:57:47 UTC

just call everything a spook

no no no no no

2018-05-22 18:58:04 UTC

hippity hoppity

heres the thing

no

2018-05-22 18:58:18 UTC
2018-05-22 18:58:27 UTC

a rel spoop

2018-05-22 18:58:31 UTC

Anarchists are Marxist-Leninists without knowing really. We use the same tactics except u deny "unjust hierarchy". What anarchists call "democratic confederalism" is really democratic centralism.

@Nogals i think therefore i am

2018-05-22 18:58:51 UTC

wew

2018-05-22 18:58:52 UTC

also r u a fasce?

@Diablo no. im a makhnovist

2018-05-22 18:59:02 UTC

@Diablo yes I am

makhno kinda fought with the red army

well

trots red army

2018-05-22 18:59:15 UTC

i was asking nogals sorry

oh

well. let me just say

2018-05-22 19:00:00 UTC

Nogals, why do u feel Facism is a better alternative to the current situation we have now?

2018-05-22 19:00:09 UTC

*fascism

that the end goal of anarchism and marxist leninism is the same its just how we get there

2018-05-22 19:00:20 UTC

obviously or else I wouldn't be one

@Nogals what do you think of otto and gregor strasser

*natsuuuucc

2018-05-22 19:02:27 UTC

strasser didn't understand the jewish problem. I haven't read much on the economics of Strasser but I know it syndicalist

2018-05-22 19:02:32 UTC

Anarchists tend to usually be 1st world leftists. Getting rid of the state is unrealistic. The Spanish anarchists still had legislature, prisons, and military leaders. They just claimed that they didn't have a state.

2018-05-22 19:02:49 UTC

literally only read up on corporatism

2018-05-22 19:02:55 UTC

@Deleted User Im not a nazi

2018-05-22 19:02:58 UTC

Did somebody say national socialism

2018-05-22 19:03:17 UTC

Did somebody say make the holocaust look like a joke

2018-05-22 19:03:21 UTC

Stalin was chill af

2018-05-22 19:03:24 UTC

Based Stalin

2018-05-22 19:03:34 UTC

No u

2018-05-22 19:03:35 UTC

Qt

2018-05-22 19:03:41 UTC

๐Ÿคค

@Diablo the free territory of ukraine didn't have a state

at all

2018-05-22 19:03:49 UTC

@Nogals why do u believe that a nuclear family is better? and how do you think class cooporation will solve capitalist exploitation?

2018-05-22 19:03:50 UTC

>did someone just make holocaust look like a joke
>based stalin

2018-05-22 19:03:52 UTC

??

2018-05-22 19:03:53 UTC

Ukraine?

2018-05-22 19:03:58 UTC

What's that

2018-05-22 19:04:06 UTC

Fucking anti Stalinist shit

za makhno

za stalina

2018-05-22 19:04:18 UTC

I don't know about any Ukraine

2018-05-22 19:04:22 UTC

Only greater Russia

2018-05-22 19:04:37 UTC

t.russianhacker

ะดะธะฑะตะป

2018-05-22 19:04:44 UTC

Het

2018-05-22 19:05:05 UTC

@Diablo nuclear family. Capitalist exploitation is a result of jews. If you have a strong nation where people are proud they will not exploit each other

ะฟะธะทะดะฐ

2018-05-22 19:05:21 UTC

Das

2018-05-22 19:05:35 UTC

Pizza*

2018-05-22 19:05:41 UTC

NO

2018-05-22 19:05:43 UTC

STOP

2018-05-22 19:05:45 UTC

STOP

2018-05-22 19:05:53 UTC

uhoh

2018-05-22 19:05:55 UTC

Fucking asshole

2018-05-22 19:06:03 UTC

Kys

2018-05-22 19:06:08 UTC

Faggots get the rope

2018-05-22 19:06:12 UTC

Better

2018-05-22 19:06:13 UTC

@Nogals Why/How would the Jews have to do with any of class struggle?

2018-05-22 19:06:53 UTC

Replace it with a hammer and a sword tho

2018-05-22 19:06:58 UTC

Then it'll be good

2018-05-22 19:07:09 UTC

There is one good thing hitlerites did

2018-05-22 19:07:14 UTC

And that's uniform aesthetics

2018-05-22 19:07:18 UTC

Pretty neat

2018-05-22 19:07:24 UTC

the uniforms were neat as fuck

2018-05-22 19:07:26 UTC

tight shit

2018-05-22 19:08:04 UTC

Gae

2018-05-22 19:08:18 UTC

>gettyimages

2018-05-22 19:08:19 UTC

Looks like they're waving

2018-05-22 19:08:30 UTC

>Jewish coveruos

2018-05-22 19:08:40 UTC

Unironically does anyone actually believe in the holocaust meme

2018-05-22 19:08:49 UTC

yes boomers and the ones under

2018-05-22 19:08:57 UTC

Australia

read siege

2018-05-22 19:09:59 UTC

Wot

2018-05-22 19:10:00 UTC

No

2018-05-22 19:10:06 UTC

Bad strum

2018-05-22 19:10:14 UTC

Siege is bad

2018-05-22 19:10:26 UTC

No

2018-05-22 19:10:30 UTC

Stahp it

2018-05-22 19:10:34 UTC

It's bad

2018-05-22 19:11:01 UTC

Wot

2018-05-22 19:11:11 UTC

I don't believe in a class struggle per se. I think there should be classes just they shouldn't be as spread as they are currently. You shouldn't have people living on the streets or living in 5 mansions but classes shouldn't be abolished entirely because it drives innovation. I'm against the syndicalists like Strasser mostly because their guild idea I think divides the nation. Work is important in the nation but I feel the communists put to much emphasis on this. I do believe the Jews are the reason we have a class struggle to begin with. They are the big capitalists that run things, they push for dividing the nation with things like race baiting and feminism. Distracting the nation from what's important. @Diablo

2018-05-22 19:11:15 UTC

Why not just have greater cct

2018-05-22 19:11:36 UTC

Romania is gay

2018-05-22 19:11:54 UTC

and full of gypsies

2018-05-22 19:11:54 UTC

@Deleted User your mom gay

2018-05-22 19:12:00 UTC

No u

2018-05-22 19:12:07 UTC

Hitler was a faggot

2018-05-22 19:12:13 UTC

hitler was a faggot

2018-05-22 19:12:16 UTC

he had the chance

2018-05-22 19:12:18 UTC

Ruined germany

2018-05-22 19:12:24 UTC

and fucked us over for an eternity

2018-05-22 19:12:26 UTC

At least hitler killed hitler

2018-05-22 19:12:29 UTC

not stronk enough

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