https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8sWK2fp3DM

the beginning of this shit is kinda scary. them muslims tho

one of his points: "I don't see any american flags, are they not assimilating?"

just pointing out there is some bias in this video

i know

where are they throwing rocks at christians though?

i like getting different perspectives that's why all i do is ask questions in this chat

what minute second mark

should be near the end

let me see

in case anyone is confused by the video title

http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/sharia.asp

Did you find it? @Margaret

are you an Israeli

makes more sense but i dont know what to believe anymore

yeah check 5:30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EkDKpFsC21g i also watched this one

are you an Israeli @Sorghagtani Beki

should all muslims support the sharia law/

??

why shouldn't they

everyone should support their own tradition

but in the united states?

why should anyone integrate?

you should not have them anyways

This was the original edit of the video. The Christians were led by a notorious radical Christian, named Ruban Israel, and they were inciting the Muslims. Watch for yourself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnJBW49afzg

i agree @Deleted User

@מוות שחור#2673 thank you

np

@מוות שחור#2673 what do you have to say about this one though? this one is recent too https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQLZCxPKJlI&t=2s

minority groups that impose on other groups are disastrous for any nation

Infowars

really

For the second video you sent, the woman says that Muslims are perpetrators of FGM. Ethiopia and Eritrea also practice FGM and are Christian countries.

christ

Alex Jones believes that aliens are fucking with us. @Margaret

Don't watch his videos.

ethiopia is one third muslim

ironically, he'd make a better president than Trump

well shit, i was just watching ben shapiro so idk how tf i ended up watching those vids

@Deleted User Trivial statement.

lol, thats funny

She references "vaginas being sewn up." Most cases of FGM do not involve that. In the United States, we also cut off the foreskin of little boys without their consent. The reasoning dates back to an old myth that it would prevent masturbation.

oh i see, i see. now i'm starting to see why he said the anti-sharia law protesters are propaganda by those against islam

wow interesting. so many different povs from here and the right

greetings

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fags are great
don't let breeder cattle tell you otherwise

ok

the problem is not islam its genetically inferior Niggers with IQ of 60 on average

thats the true redpill to swallow

I thought this server was for leftists not righties wtf

its most tankies who hate cultural minoritys, weird nazis, theocratic distributionist and psychopaths

Multiculturalism is gay

@Deleted User do you like Multiculturalism

This server has fluctuations on the right - left, tankie - rational person things

THIS IS NOW ANGLO LANDS

@Deleted User

@Deleted User

Hello

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Just kidding

greetings comrades

Shalom

lovely

So u can burn it down?

Oy vey!

Who are you talking to?

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I mean, that was kind of interesting

http://www.drugsense.org/cms/wodclock

?ban Cotton

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Why is there so many people getting banned

the Janitor

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for disagreeing it is what happens most the time

Are you all left wing

88

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@Deleted User

Well then

this is like another shoah

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@Deleted User

Hmm

14

no

88?

yes

ahye

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can we at least agree that lauren southern is the queen of /leftypol/?

yeah

Make America Great Again.

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Trump went back on nearly every promise lmao

he lied a lot during the campaign

whoever expected him to fulfill his promises was a retard

is*

and forever will be

Harsh

America died after the south lost the civil war tbh

Few know this

America died when the revolutionary war happened

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Who here Orthodox?

*In Eastern Orthodoxy, theology is not treated as an academic pursuit; instead, it is based on revelation (see gnosiology), meaning that Orthodox theology and its theologians are validated by ascetic pursuits, rather than academic degrees (i.e.scholasticism).*

thats me

Catholic

matey

The focus on monasticism vs academic pursuits is very interesting.

I am happy to refute Aquinas.

thats my boy

sieg heil!

???

is this a server for sjw's?

God cannot be approached through reason, and attempts to do so obscure the faith.

ok nigga

er

ay

cant keep my dick in my pants

wrong chat

The scholastic tradition of Catholicism (albeit unbeknown to them) and the reliance on Aristotlean logic has been discredited by philosophy and science.

are you orthodox or just interested

However, matters of pure revelation are practiced outside of this rational fetish.

I am interested.

oh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7vvPXz-Qes

Wow, thankyou.

its a relaxing chant

degenerates

Once I knew that Aquinas was dismantled, it ruined Catholicism, for me.

But Palamism is a different beast.

All logic, no matter how advanced, can never approach the heights of revelation. Religion, then, is a matter of the heart, not the mind.

I can not stand left winged politics

The bane of my existence

So you think. It must be hard to suffer under such neuroticism.

God you sound like such a faggot

Gosh*

Is it reasonable to believe in the Christian God if you cannot give a good reason why you do not choose other gods

I don't believe in any one religion

I'm not a faggot

If it was all up to me I'd get rid of religion and destroy commies

I think, now, it depends on what the heart tells you, however convincing that is. The is not retrospective reason for this or that. The heart is based on the present only.

How do you plan on doing that tho

Let's be reasonable

I'm here to bully @Deleted User kid

Emotions of the heart can all be traced down to where someone was born

Because he sounds like a faggot

*The heart is quiet rather than noisy, intuitive rather than deductive, lives entirely in the present, and is, at every moment, accepting of the reality God gives in that moment. Moreover, the heart does not seek to distance or dominate anything or anyone by labeling. Rather, it begins with an awareness of its relationship with the rest of creation (and everything and everyone in it), accepting rather than rejecting, finding similarity rather than alienation and likeness rather than difference. It knows no fear, experiences no desire, and never finds the need to defend or justify itself. Unlike the mind, the heart never seeks to impose itself. It is patient and undemanding. Little wonder, then, that the mind, always impatient and very demanding, manages to dominate it so thoroughly.* https://blogs.ancientfaith.com/glory2godforallthings/2009/09/11/the-religion-of-the-mind-and-the-religion-of-the-heart/

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This image is how I know I'm on the right side

This article alone made me investigate Orthodoxy.

The heart cannot think

That's just emotion

They want to believe it which is why they do

It's retarded logic

"I want to believe in unicorns so they're real"

Omg

Fags

Kys Jew

kys nigger

Kys faggot

There's nothing wrong with being a Jew wtf

It's not logical. But is based on the highest object of worship, monotheism.

There's nothing wrong with being a nigger wtf

Oh look at me

I'm a faggot

Yes you are

I read communism articles all day long

And jerk it to MLP xD

Exactly

Le communism xD

Dae communist???

@Deleted User people get revelations in many religions, it's kind of obvious revelations are bullshit

Transgender people are the worst

How do we get rid of this shitty trend

It's pronounced SHO-PAN, dreg.

"I believe in it because I believe in it"

That's the retard logic

@Deleted User
Stfu tranny

>chopin
>not wagner

what did go wrong

How do we stop the trannies

Wagner is a faggot

Guis

How do we stop them

It's not logical. Basing your belief on logic is a mistake, because such rationalisations will always full short of the reality.

I'm bored

No spam please.

Revelation is a response to the inadequacy of reason.

"highest object of worship, monotheism"

except idolatry has never been the highest object of worship

*Palamas drew a distinction between knowing God in his essence (Greek ousia) and knowing God in his energies (Greek energeiai).*

Is knowing God's energies idolatry?

I'm assuming you're coming from the general concept of monotheism

As in an abrahamic religion

Yes, Palamas is Orthodox Christian.

I see, is there a source for the explanation of that energy concept tho, I am curious?

It is based on Palamism and the practice of Hesychasm, a form of prayer. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palamism

Will check it out, thanks

Also, the conceptualisation in comparative religion that there is either a single correct religion or they are all incorrect, is a notion based on Aristotlean logic. And, as we should learn, such deductions are prone to error.

Hey! Is anyone online?

This practice apparently constitutes Christian mysticism.

https://orthodoxwiki.org/Jesus_Prayer

*"Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, the sinner."*

although religions can't be mutually correct, as it would contradict the whole philosophy behind a *religion*

there is a reason they were born as different religions with different ideas and dogmas

You're using abstract logic to try to determine the ultimate nature of reality. I don't know how useful that is.

'Philosophy' by the way, is an artefact of Greek reasoning. This is only upheld in the west and by Catholicism, contrary to Orthodox who have always been against such rash deductions.

If philosophy worked so well, why was Aristotle wrong about so many things?

No I get that, what I'm saying is that a religion simply can't exist without denying other religions in existence

As in, you can't form a new set of thoughts without denying the former ones

Three branches and all that

I don't think the belief of the heart has a conscious denial of other things. That is the rationalisation of the mind, probably after it is questioned by itself or others.

Also I wouldn't endow philosophy to any group, how I see it is that it's a practice of reasoning by logic, in it's current form at least.

Well, specifically, I had Catholicism in mind, who rely on Aristotlean logic. I am aware other faiths have different kinds of logic, like from India.

9/10 when a westerner refers to logic they mean they Aristotlean kind.

I see where you're coming from, true.

In reality, we don't really know for sure how the tapestry of religion works in relation to the Truth. The best practice, according to Palamism, is to rely on revelation of the heart, which is the only chance for having knowledge (of a kind) about God.

Logic always falls short.

By extension, when scholars suggest that revelation has no basis in reason, they are in a way partly correct and partly incorrect. It is only an estimation of their behalf. Whether or not it is True or not, is not known. Reality exists beyond reason.

It seems prayer, in this context, is an attempt to connect and witness the Truth, where no other avenues are avaliable.

It is deeply unscientific, but in a way this is also a strength because it opens up the possibility the lies beyond logical deductions.

From what I can gather, Palamism follows the idealism approach for reasoning, although I need further reading on the matter.

Will definitely work on that.

Whether it is provable or not is really not a relevant question. It is only verifiable, if you could call it that, according to intuition.