@Sorghagtani Beki force yourself into a schedule and stick to it, you head has to hit your pillow the same time each night. (coming from someone who ruined theirs)

Do you think 10 PM would be a good time?

Stop drinking stimulants.

Sugar is bourgeosie

7/8 hours is optimal for majority of population.

I average 5 hours a day

people who sleep only 6 hours a night tend to live longer

citation needed

i dont feel like digging up shit i read years ago

doesnt mater to me if you believe it or not

ok

When I try sleeping early I think too much

Can't sleep

You need to learn how to relax your mind.

friendly reminder to eliminate greasy disgusting foods from your diet

burgers taste good tho

Have a 'wind down' ritual before bed.

Like praying.

Maybe pray for a little while 😉

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I eat tons of grease.

70% fat.

ewww

Sugar is the enemy, not fat.

Few know this

70% is still a lot

Ketogenic.

not enough protein smh

25% Protein.

I will pray to Tengri every night

How about you try this one

On high volume weeks of my lifting cycle, I up the protein to 30-40%.

Our father which art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven.

Give us this day our daily bread,
and forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.

You won me over.

O heavenly King, O Comforter, the Spirit of truth, who art in all places and fillest all things; Treasury of good things and Giver of life: Come and dwell in us and cleanse us from every stain, and save our souls, O gracious Lord.

Glory be to the Father,
and to the Son,
and to the Holy Spirit.
As it was in the beginning, is now,
and ever shall be,
world without end.

O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, & lead all souls to heaven, especially those in most need of Thy mercy.

definitely chopin

*Communism, the belief in all men being oe ad affectionally sharing of rescources, is most definately Religious. It was Marx who ripped socialism from religion.*

We don't have to pray for God, we just pray for our soul and our peace. Tengri doesn't want more servants, slaves. We are Tengri's children and we came from him, and we will return to him.

the chairman will not be pleased 🇨🇳

Tengriism is heresy.

It's worse than that

tengriism is a heresy of all religions

It's a heresy which claims the true faith is heresy

Gnosticism and nestorianism are heresies. This is something completely different.

What do you base this statement upon? My faith says that no religion is heresy, because all religions are under Tengri.

What are the theological origins of Tengriism?

The history of it

There are no laws in Tengriism. Tengriism deals with the spiritual connection of the individual with God. Individuals connect with God in different ways.

So how does one become connected with God?

You can do this through other religions, through shamanists, or by praying for oneself and asking for Tengri's guidance if you wish to do it directly.

The greatest worship of Tengri above all is to help preserve nature.

I stand corrected. St. Thomas (II-II:11:1) defines heresy: "a species of infidelity in men who, having professed the faith of Christ, corrupt its dogmas"

When I am feeling pious, I plant a tree.

Oh I see

So it's worship of the world.

Oh, so like, Prots?

lol

>There are no laws in Tengriism.
>Goes onto describe laws

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We must live in harmony with this world in Tengriism, and we all return to Tengri in the afterlife.

(I know I once said I was a Prot, I don't even know at this point. I'm just a Christian.)

So there are laws.

Also, you know, ripping apart the christian world over marriage.

There are no laws. You will return to Tengri no matter what.

That's a law.

What is a law?

Tengri demands nothing of his children.

I'd better heard out now, Good night everyone, and God bless.

As individuals, we seek out Tengri for guidance in life in various ways. There is no necessity.

unfortunatley in china it is protestants who spread and not catholics

Enjoy your rest.

@Mros Night

Sorry, what you describe is Tengri doctrines, or beliefs.

All religions fit under this. Tengri extends various religions as methods to reach him.

That would include Christianity. You are a Tengriist in my view.

because the catholic church is centered and obviously loyal or influenced to/by the vatican, the chinese government does not allow them frequently to convert people

so really only the protestants and orthodox can sucesfully spread

Orthedox is more moral.

Tengri is superstition and pride, not based on reason.

Prots are pittiful devirocing cunts.

i wanna eat irish babies

Catholics have Aquinas though.

It is not reason that an all powerful and all loving god should have a quality of geographical favoritism and requires robed minions to spread his ideology.

there are not many orthodox churches in china

but i am orthodox luckily

A just God does not have favourites. Anyone can get into Heaven.

>This is a Christian server

>No sodomy please

i wear womens clothes daily in public and have sex almost exclusively with men

A just god cannot have favorites. This is true. The Christian God holds favorites. Those born in pagan lands have a higher chance to go to Hell.

You see, I'd be forgiving if you were a tranny ad didn't fuck people until married.

God does not *require* preaching but it brings people closer to the truth, so it is good for us.

Otherwise, you're a fucking pile of shit.

@Deleted User

not fucking till marriage lele

That's unfounded. All the righteous go to Heaven.

It means a more stable and loving marriage.

seems like the gaurenteer of a joyless marriage

>my only joy is sex

You yourself admitted that those in pagan lands have a greater chance to live in immorality.

No I didn't.

Nigga

i never said my only joy is sex

What about companionship and love?

you can just do meme arrows

and claim some one said something

since were talking about marriage and relationships, here's an interesting fact:
the chinese term for breakup is fenshou, which means to pull apart hands ;_______;

That must have been Mros, then.

is not having sex ONLY within your marriage not fun enough?

i just think you should ensure sexual compatibility before marriage

Is it not loving enough?

Those born in the Vatican have a higher chance to become Christian than those born in Saudi Arabia.

...

its like buying a car before testing it out, or buying a house with out viewing

That leads to the marriage being more instable

it's call cohabitation.

It increases the chances of deviroce by like, 25%.

That's true but being born a Christian does not mean you will go to Heaven.

in fact i dont really believe in marriage

Then you do not believe in family.

No one is born a Christian. You are born in regions where you will more likely become Christian.

its kinda patriarchal

That's what I meant, sorry.

And?

I'd rather live in a patriarchal society, evne if I'd have less rights.

That alone is unfair to those with a lesser chance to become Christian. Those born in Saudi Arabia, for example.

It's simply how it is: men are strong and more well versed for certain jobs.

i mean i dont think any one should have ownership or stewardship over another person because of some cultural bullshit

These are tipcally positions of power

Why is it unfair?

although, running the house is very high of a duty.

And very powerful.

People do not choose where they are born.

Those born in certain regions have a lesser chance to accept the Gospel or even educate themselves in it.

You're going over the same point over and over again Sultan.

You miss the point. Christianity is the truth, but being ignorant of it does not bar you from Heaven if you are righteous.

thats what you all do

Why should we spread the Gospel?

its a bunch of broken records playing in unison

Because it is good for us.

Would it help the pagans?

The truth helps everyone.

How will it help the pagans?

Are the pagans more immoral without it?

Yes.

Does the immorality send them to hell?

Yes.

I am born in a pagan land where I have a higher chance to be immoral that would send me to hell.

Higher chance? No.

Yet if I was born in the Vatican, this would not be the case.

You said greater chance of immorality

And that such immorality leads to hell

...

How...

If you were born in a pagan land, you do not have be immoral, there is higher potential, not higher chance.

You aren't in a pagan land.

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You have to look at this statistically. There is higher potential for immorality. How do we measure this? Because more people are immoral. Why is that the case? Because there is a higher chance of it.

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Or, do you have no proof that there is a higher chance of immorality?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW1hD9YzwZk

These are Pagans, not Tengriists.

They are still Tengriists.

Paganism are any of the earlier-then-Christianity faithes in Europe.

oh shit back to tengriist

You are not a Pagan.

I am saying, you flip a coin, be righteous or not. This applies to everyone with the same probability. A Christian can be immoral just as much as a pagan.

Pagans are religions that are not Christianity. That is the definition.

Is the chance of immorality higher in pagan lands than Christian lands?

I'd say there is a higher chance in Pagan societies

No.

this is painful

For example: exploration of bisexual urges was encouraged in some Pagan societies.

If I recall the European pagans were more hedonistic than Christians by far.

whats wrong with bisexuality why is it immoral

Would you call that immoral?

Fucking youg boys was encouraged in Greek Pagan societies.

Those are all sins. They are immoral.

Immorality can manifest is lots of ways. But only when you are not righteous.

why are they immoral

A Christian immorality looks different than a pagan one.

Both go to Hell.

I have a question: can someone sent to hell be redemned while in hell?

No.

I say it would be better to not spread religion at all if chance of going to hell is the same for both. Let pagans enjoy hedonistic ways and still go to heaven at the same rate.

what makes something immoral tho

like what is immorality

Spreading religion lets the righteous get closer to God, and God wants this.

It takes away pleasure from those on the other end. Let them enjoy worldly pleasure yet still go to paradise.

They won't go to heaven.

Spreading the gospel makes resisting temptation harder for them. It seems as if it would be a burden.

If they do not go to heaven at the same rate, that is geographical favoritism.

A sin of a non-believer is just as bad as a sin of a believer, but a non-believer has some wriggling room. They can not be 100% hedonistic, murdering, and so on. And be accepted into heaven.

i think christianity might be immoral in the form of organized religion

Tengri, on the other hand, holds no favorites.

it harms other people i mean i think thats really the base of immorality

things that harm others are immoral

If I had to choose one god to worship at this point, Tengri seems both more appealing and powerful to me.

@Deleted User Your hedonism harms others.

my hedonism?

Should I stone you and ban your favorite pleasures?

Immorality results when we knowingly pursue something that is good in itself but bad for us in terms of what it means to be human.

explain to me what my hedonism is and how it harms others ironcross

Well, crossdressing as a spirtial and physical male.

Humans are naturally hedonistic just as our cousins, the Bonobos, are.

how does it harm people and how is it hedonistic

Moral evil results when a person intentionally does something or fails to do something that prevents herself or somebody else from realising their human potential, and it is caused by a defect of the will, that is, by a lack of understanding of the good.

Aquinas does not believe that we can rationally desire evil because we can only desire that which exists.

There is an assumption on what the human potential is here

That's one thing: a man is not to dress as a woman. And this can lead to children being very well confused, normal people disgusted and disgruntled. And it's hedonistic because you aren't doing it to solve a long life depression, like transsexuals, but for your own pleasure. Because you want to dress like that. Not to become more productive and moral overall.

The Christian human potential may not find itself in agreement with other cultures.

God is just and we cannot comprehend the extent of His justice. To say favouritism exists is a misunderstanding of God.

how does it effect my moral choices or productivity being a transsexual? why is it my fault people hold hate in their heart arent they immoral for needlesly hating ?

You believe on faith that your god is just. At the same time, I believe in faith that our Tengri uses all religions to lead to him.

Human beings have basic potentialities that are not acquired, not constructed, not imposed, but are inherent within them, basic potentialities that they have just by coming to be, that is, potentialities they have in virtue of what they are. And so human beings do have a nature. Human beings have the inherent potentialities to maintain their organic states, to grow, to reproduce, to perceive, to remember, to imagine, to have emotions, to understand, and to will. Not every human being can immediately exercise all of these potentialities, but every human being is oriented to actively developing himself or herself to the stage at which he or she will perform such actions.

You *are* a transsexual? A *real suffer of gender dysphoria?*

yes

Then the cross dressing is not leveled at you, you were put into a test. To rise above life shattering depression. And your supposed homosexuality, that don't exactly apply. But your sexual deviancy is the issue.

Tengriists look to Tengri to open pathways to their own potential. There is no conflict.

Justice is a logical conclusion of God. Tengri superstition is not.

Fucking people out of marriage, doing it at all when you can not even have children.

Those are most definately sins.

fucking people out of marriage?

Outside.

hows t hat?

Tengriism is founded on the logic that God is powerful enough to have all cultures worship him without needing to enslave his children on that task.

oh i get you

Is that not how you have sexual relations?

Are you married?

i was taking it as like other use of fucking

i mean what am i suppose to do live my life as a celibate cause i cant have kids?

In short, yes.

But all cultures don't worship Tengri, only your superstition suggests they do.

Well... No, but you need to repent for those sins.

I mean, I don't wanna encourage you to do it...

@Deleted User Feel free to use sex as a social bonding activity. Our cousins do this all the time.

But, well, I don't know.

tengriism is nihilistic

Lesser primates lack self reflection.

Fuck, I'm just gonna say: don't. To be safe.

They worship Tengri because Tengri provides different methods of worship to different cultures.

The Christian God, however, is not just. You believe it on the basis of faith.

i have a lot of issues with marriage... i dont wanna do it cause i think its morally repugnant its implications, but at the same time, i have this cultural urge to marry a man and adopt children

Many white children need strong, Christian values.

A strong, moral, Christia family.