#international (Discord ID: 308950154222895104) in /leftypol/ International, page 121
Security Advisory: Links in messages may lead to maliciously operated websites that could track your IP address and reveal your identity, or they may contain harmful files. The DiscordLeaks team does not check links and cannot make any statements about the safety of following these links.
Some ways to protect yourself are:
- Do not open files downloaded from links, and do not run any programs that try to download themselves to your computer.
- Use anonymization measures such as Tor Browser or a VPN.
If you are using the Privacy Badger or other privacy extensions, you may need to whitelist Discord and related domains in order for the images to load.
There is still one last problem, unfortunately. http://www.age-of-the-sage.org/faith-vs-reason-debate-2.jpg
It specifically mentions grace, *"Grace is favor, the free and undeserved help that God gives us to respond to his call to become children of God, adoptive sons, partakers of the divine nature and of eternal life" (CCC 1996)*
People born in certain geographies have a greater likelihood to be brainwashed by other faiths.
No, it is not like Tengri thing. It has specific requirements.
Does God account for this?
They need to be able to overcome this
and accept the true faith.
Yes, God accounts for all conditions. *"The desire for God is written in the human heart, because man is created by God and for God; and God never ceases to draw man to himself. Only in God will he find the truth and happiness he never stops searching for" (CCC 27).*
But clearly if you look at it statistically it would be worse for someone to be born in Saudi Arabia than the Vatican.
Would it be fair to judge them both on acceptance of the Gospel?
Hmm, I'll leave that to Mros.
It is fair to judge them if they have the truth before them and reject it.
But clearly if you look at it statistically it would be much worse to be born in Saudi Arabia
As in highly likely that the man born in Arabia never accepts the Gospel compared to the Vatican
It is still fair
I assume God would make an exception for this?
It depends, do they know about Christianity? If so then yes it's fiar.
This is why the followers of Christ are called to preach the word unto all nations
What if they never truly explore Christianity because they have been raised to reject it in favor of another religion?
wouldn't it also depend on their level of knowledge?
If they just knew there were people called Christians, is it still their fault for rejecting it?
They had to concsiously reject it
Or would they have to know of the bible, at least the largeer moral principles, and so on?
Wouldn't this mean it would be better to not spread the Gospel at all
No, because the people still have to live moral lives despite the lack of knowledge
Okay, just making sure I understand.
Which isn't every case
Why? It would make it harder for them to go to paradise.
I mean, if they raped a child and beheaded their wife...
People without God are more likely to do this?
I mean, they can't live 100% Christian lives. But they can be good by what their heart calls them to do.
IE God's pulling them toward goodess.
Then Christians should not spread the Gospel
Because it would make it harder on pagans.
It wouldn't make it harder. There's no guarantee that they'll live moral lives having no knowledge of it.
Pagans have a higher chance of living immoral lives that would send them to hell compared to Christians?
Jesus Christ wants us to bring the whole world into captivity to the truth, and the truth is Jesus himself, who is "the way, and the truth, and the life" (John 14:6). Spreading the faith is a task not only for bishops, priests, and religious—it is a task for all Catholics (CCC 905).
And yes, Pagans are more likely to live amoral lives
So that is still geographical favoritism. Based on where you are born, you have a higher chance to go to hell.
god just doesnt like people not born in the west
Well even in the time of the new testament there were churches established in india so that isn't quite true
and Armenia and Ethiopia were the first two nations to convert to Christianity
But not in Papua New Guinea
That's what missionaries are for
Their salvation rests on the back of weak robed men?
Just because someone is born in a Christian nation doesn't mean they will be saved.
If anything, someone born in the US today has an even lower chance
But we can agree those born in pagan nations have a higher chance to not be saved, as they have a higher chance to live immoral lives
i keep having really strange experiences with time dilation
What do you mean?
So if someone born in the US has an even lower chance, is that still not geographical favoritism?
That's called psychosis. Go see a doctor.
It's due to the current state of the US society
That is not the fault of someone being born
Of course. We are not clones that exist in mirror universes, every individual's circumstances is unique.
I would feel bad for those who would unfortunately be born as pagans
in pagan lands
We do not know the true number of person's in heaven.
Surely an all-good god cannot have geographical favorites
like it will feel like 3 hours and ill look at the clock and its only been 15 mins, or it will feel like its been 2 mins but i look at the clock and its been a hour
How can a just God have favourites?
John 3:16 says otherwise
Tengri holds no favorites.
John 3:16 For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.
How about you stop using 4chan
There's nothing good there
why would i care if you wre black
Unless you are the gatekeeper of heaven, and know the hearts of all mankind, who are you to judge if God has favourites?
Only God can truly judge the hearts of men.
<@323330765440155649> Do you have anything meaningful to contribute?
But now you are just adhering to faith without logic, like I said that "only Tengri can explain how different religions all lead to him"
i dunno his content is about as good as this argument
Man 4chan people sure are vulgar
I ain't even a commie fam
Too much Ritalin?
Pepe is the worst
>not saying normalfag
Looks like you're the real normie
Lol fam I'm white
No thanks, CIA
I'm a law abiding citizen, FBI
Chopin who even runs this discord?
fuckig kill yourself
I'm not even a communist
dude, you are a total nigger faggot
cry me a river
stop blowing up my notifications
I'm pretty sure at least 25% of the people in this server aren't commies
and that's a conservative estimate
no, you are just lame
you arent even good at trolling
This is a palce for Commies and non-commies to come and discuss.
lame troll is lame
Not for you to screech at commies.
this guy is totally late
holy shit my notifications.
i was being blown up there for a while
ty so much
you can make it so it only notifies you for at mentions
yeah, i should
It feels like there is a worm slowly eating out my brain rn
like, it's borrowing around inside my head.
You should see a doctor
wow, ouch. yeah what mros said
I hope it's just a migrian...
It's like a presure on the entire front of my head.
Have you tried a ketogenic diet?
**i'm dying slowly**
I had bad migraines and it is the only thing that helped.
I'll put that on my long list of things to look up
ketogenic diets are for weight loss
It was designed for children with epilepsy.
they help for quite a few things, when i was a long distance runner, it really helped with my performance
thats very cool
yeah, it helped with my bonking
its where when your blood sugar drops midway through a run
but if you are running off of ketones, you cant bonk
are you a professional athlete ? or just do it for fun?
Amazing how diets can fix and prevent so many things.
just for fun
i definitely could have participated in marathons, but i never did
and yeah, its amazing
i used to swim a lot
but i dont do much anymore
i was on the water polo team in HS
im too body concious to swim
Who here surfers?
i wanna get back to biking tho i use to do like 20 miles a day
biking is rad
i surfed when i was little
yeah, biking is awesome
have to have a wet suit to do it here so expensive hobby
Wetsuits aren't that expensive, are they?
no, you can get a second hand one for really cheap
i can barely pay my 450$ rent expensive for me i suck at saving
yeah, focus on the essentials first
its better to get a custom fitted wetsuit
standard sizes are too difficult to work with
I never wear a wetsuit tbh
Do you ride underwater? Why do you need a wetsuit?
you could prolly get away with a rash gaurd and some trunks if you went fuck it, waters normally about 50ish degrees here
yeah, especially when they are designed for euro proportions and you are chinese (im assuming)
50ish degrees isn't that bad
its not the point
i got a long sleeved shirt from SK, and the sleeves went up half way by wrists
i wear a sweater in 70 degree weather
the temperature doesnt matter
you could take cold showers to get used to the cold
its for triathalons and such
@小弟弟#3837 Don't worry brother, China makes everything
nothing wrong with that
i need to get a new job before i can get a bike
most people who have wetsuits have somewhere to be after swimming
or just dont want to be wet
or are doing a triathalon
which you absolutely need a wetsuit for
people wear them here cause of cold mostly cause cold in water and outside it so you can get hypothermia rather easily if you arent young healthy and such
what country are you from
im in the us just in the northern part
Wim Hof disagrees.
You body can adapt to the cold.
But it takes times.
Like a sun tan.
sun taning is dumb imho
tans are ugly and unhealthy
Wow, popscience much.
There's a differince between tanning and sunburn
few know this
theyre only unhealthy if you arent wearing uv protection
idk, i think it can be overdone
Well of course
and they are just ugly
and i dont like the look either
as someone who has had a tan most of his life living in SoCal
pale is class and beauty
wow, racist much?
Pale is bourgeosie.
>not having a farmer's tan
pale is the color of someone who has not worked in his life
you are bourgeoisie tbh chopin
i work a lot just night shift jobs
Night shift is more unhealthy than a tan.
need a job now cause quit lel
Gotta get those 8 hours
its not just how long u sleep though
i get my 8 hours just at a different time
i take my vitamin d too
reversing your circadian rythm is itself terrible
and keep a good window light cover
use the led lights in my room
and have one yellow bulb
My circadian rhythm is ruined
I don't know how to fix it
Stop playing vidya.
Go to bed at a reasonable time every day
between 8 and 10 pm
It is 1:02 Am right now
I'm not tired
That's the problem
Do you exercise?
I get tired around 3:AM
stop using electronics for a while like all of them, its a trip how well you sleep and how regimented you become