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2017-06-09 23:43:13 UTC

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2017-06-09 23:43:34 UTC

@Anglican many different communisms has been pracised though

2017-06-09 23:43:35 UTC

i dont like white people so im good with that

2017-06-09 23:43:54 UTC

@Sampuka I'm talking about marxian communism, on a purely economci level.

2017-06-09 23:43:54 UTC

Because I do not want to work in a factory

2017-06-09 23:44:06 UTC

*economic.

2017-06-09 23:44:10 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki Yes you can, you choose education and then you have to adjust to a plan accorded in time; when it's specialized and with cybenetics it can be even more flexible

2017-06-09 23:44:20 UTC

So no forceful work in a factory

2017-06-09 23:44:21 UTC

?

2017-06-09 23:44:34 UTC

No assigned jobs

2017-06-09 23:44:35 UTC

?

2017-06-09 23:44:43 UTC

how would marxian communism differ from the rest, also communism is not a set of affairs to be astablished

2017-06-09 23:44:45 UTC

only in a command economy

2017-06-09 23:45:00 UTC

but it's not the ideal, just for emergencies

2017-06-09 23:45:01 UTC

@Sampuka I don't care about "muh beliefs"

2017-06-09 23:45:08 UTC

whu?

2017-06-09 23:45:16 UTC

I care about the overall practicing of communism which has survived over a few days.

2017-06-09 23:45:24 UTC

well catalonia did

2017-06-09 23:45:25 UTC

(few years)

2017-06-09 23:45:32 UTC

but that still was only temporary

2017-06-09 23:45:36 UTC

Catalonia was actually pretty chill.

2017-06-09 23:45:52 UTC

Utopic socialism doesn't matter if it can't change the world

2017-06-09 23:45:55 UTC

I disagree with all of the left-wing idpol and progressivism you'd likely see there.

2017-06-09 23:46:08 UTC

where?

2017-06-09 23:46:10 UTC

But otherwise, the economic system was cool.

2017-06-09 23:46:19 UTC

oh I see

2017-06-09 23:46:22 UTC

Catalonia, if they were able to secure indepdence.

2017-06-09 23:46:36 UTC

I'm a social conseravtive christian, you see

2017-06-09 23:46:37 UTC

little communes are easily crushed

2017-06-09 23:46:44 UTC

but a strong syndicalist economically.

2017-06-09 23:46:49 UTC

little communes are the only ones that work

2017-06-09 23:46:56 UTC

@Hezbolshevik Will communist world build more commieblocks

2017-06-09 23:46:59 UTC

I have... Like... No real example of what I believe in.

2017-06-09 23:47:00 UTC

expanding beyond 150 members is what breaks it

2017-06-09 23:47:02 UTC

Because those ugly

2017-06-09 23:47:07 UTC

Commieblocks are so ugly

2017-06-09 23:47:11 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/322884362397941762/1496600562397.jpg

2017-06-09 23:47:20 UTC

commieblocks are better than homeless people tho

2017-06-09 23:47:27 UTC

You have to be dialectical in order to change the world

2017-06-09 23:47:31 UTC

not idealist or utopian

2017-06-09 23:47:44 UTC

In the chinese cultural revolution they dismantled millions of old traditional architecture for being "bourgeoise"

2017-06-09 23:47:44 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/322884503745986560/71b.jpg

2017-06-09 23:47:47 UTC

I cannot accept that

2017-06-09 23:47:48 UTC

dialectics are trash

2017-06-09 23:47:50 UTC

the USSR worked and it would get better when expanded

2017-06-09 23:47:55 UTC

its a trash method of discussing trash documents

2017-06-09 23:47:59 UTC

throw it all in the trash

2017-06-09 23:48:02 UTC

marxian everything

2017-06-09 23:48:08 UTC

Communism is a POSION

2017-06-09 23:48:09 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki yeh that kind of shit is just retarded. Like banning jazz for being bourgeosie or something

2017-06-09 23:48:23 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki I understand, but also understand that people see symbols of oppression

2017-06-09 23:48:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/322884699800207370/Chinks_in_my_lean_startup.png

2017-06-09 23:48:33 UTC

So they remove them and replace them with ugly blocks

2017-06-09 23:48:36 UTC

No...

2017-06-09 23:48:40 UTC

No..............

2017-06-09 23:48:40 UTC

I won't accept that

2017-06-09 23:48:48 UTC

You're retarded, "opression" is not traditional culture.

2017-06-09 23:48:59 UTC

I didn't say that

2017-06-09 23:49:08 UTC

Would Communism preserve beauty?

2017-06-09 23:49:11 UTC

Oppression is a made up buzzword for 'let me ifringe this persons free will'

2017-06-09 23:49:20 UTC

oh hes being oppressed i better do something socialist about it

2017-06-09 23:49:21 UTC

no

2017-06-09 23:49:23 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki nothing will if not in material interest

2017-06-09 23:49:24 UTC

but the bourgeoisie makes references to old oppresive philosophical systems

2017-06-09 23:49:25 UTC

Would you want Americans to burn down all our Churches, rip down the empire state building, and completely rid ourselves of our traditional aesthetic

2017-06-09 23:49:25 UTC

fuck you thats not your business commie

2017-06-09 23:49:30 UTC

and people see them as disgusting at some point

2017-06-09 23:49:36 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/322884973784989696/ProductiveMarxianDialectic.jpg

2017-06-09 23:49:38 UTC

for "opression"

2017-06-09 23:49:43 UTC

Would communism protect historical gems?

2017-06-09 23:49:45 UTC

because of "opression"?

2017-06-09 23:49:50 UTC

If communists found the grave of Genghis Khan, would they destroy it?

2017-06-09 23:49:52 UTC

no

2017-06-09 23:49:59 UTC

because people are furious, I can't guarantee that

2017-06-09 23:50:04 UTC

It wouldn't, not in practice.

2017-06-09 23:50:12 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki That would not depend on communism or otherwise, but on the people and their culture

2017-06-09 23:50:14 UTC

I can't accept historical gems being destroyed

2017-06-09 23:50:15 UTC

no Mongke

2017-06-09 23:50:24 UTC

that doesn't have anything to do

2017-06-09 23:50:30 UTC

The communist zombie abhors simplicity, it gives nowhere for his incompetence to hide.

2017-06-09 23:50:32 UTC

Yes but look at ISIS

2017-06-09 23:50:41 UTC

destroying history because it "idolizes things not of Islam"

2017-06-09 23:50:42 UTC

but a fascist monument maybe when they see the bourgeoisie reverencing it all the time and laughing at their faces

2017-06-09 23:51:00 UTC

not that

2017-06-09 23:51:03 UTC

the commie can never quite explain in one sentence what me means to say, because he must forever redefine the terms we've come to understand outside of the marxian dialect

2017-06-09 23:51:07 UTC

I say we should, for example, in Germany

2017-06-09 23:51:11 UTC

and it really is a dialect, a dialect of poison and pain

2017-06-09 23:51:17 UTC

So would they destroy Genghis' grave if bourgeoise circles started praising him

2017-06-09 23:51:22 UTC

a dialect of destructive deontology

2017-06-09 23:51:25 UTC

rebuild old momumemnts destroyed by the Nazis

2017-06-09 23:51:26 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki that's because of the people and their culture. If ISIS was communist or any other, they would probably destroy that shit anyway

2017-06-09 23:51:29 UTC

rather than careful examination

2017-06-09 23:51:31 UTC

poison and pain for the oppressors

2017-06-09 23:51:39 UTC

@Sampuka Communist government must protect history

2017-06-09 23:51:41 UTC

or I cannot accept it

2017-06-09 23:51:44 UTC

@Anglican That has to be decided by the people

2017-06-09 23:51:47 UTC

the criticism mechanism of the commie is meant to remove any rational thought and replace it with the commie programming

2017-06-09 23:51:49 UTC

this is the dumbest what if scenerio i have ever seen

2017-06-09 23:51:49 UTC

you see

2017-06-09 23:51:50 UTC

Because the culture of rememberance who gave it all to their country was ripped-

2017-06-09 23:51:53 UTC

mcarthy didnt finish the job

2017-06-09 23:51:57 UTC

and im saddened by this

2017-06-09 23:51:57 UTC

@Blebleh Are you fucking stupid?

2017-06-09 23:51:59 UTC

but I will.

2017-06-09 23:52:02 UTC

I will not accept mobs of uneducated revolutionaries destroying culture

2017-06-09 23:52:04 UTC

Sometimes things are simply RIGHT

2017-06-09 23:52:05 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki it is not the economic tendency of the governemtn that will decide if it preserves such things

2017-06-09 23:52:10 UTC

no

2017-06-09 23:52:23 UTC

would you make a monument to who attempted to kill you?

2017-06-09 23:52:32 UTC

see it in this perspective

2017-06-09 23:52:37 UTC

No historical gems at all

2017-06-09 23:52:45 UTC

the commie has no respect for history

2017-06-09 23:52:45 UTC

Genghis Khan tried to kill some chinese

2017-06-09 23:52:46 UTC

We need to revive more traditional cultures, and rid ourselves of both modernist progressive BULLSHIT and tampering parasites!

2017-06-09 23:52:53 UTC

should chinese people pee on his grave when they find it?

2017-06-09 23:52:57 UTC

I would never accept this

2017-06-09 23:52:58 UTC

because the commie's history is one of stupidity and needless bloodshed

2017-06-09 23:53:12 UTC

I fear for the protection of historical gems

2017-06-09 23:53:13 UTC

@Blebleh Are you talking about the statues in German?

2017-06-09 23:53:13 UTC

the commie would rather ignore and destroy history than admit to having made a mistake

2017-06-09 23:53:15 UTC

@OF-8 all history is this

2017-06-09 23:53:16 UTC

Think of it like this

2017-06-09 23:53:17 UTC

if communists rise up

2017-06-09 23:53:18 UTC

@Anglican Let that to antrophology, history

2017-06-09 23:53:26 UTC

and so on

2017-06-09 23:53:28 UTC

because when the commie admits his first mistake, he must admit all the mistakes that lead him to becoming a commie

2017-06-09 23:53:30 UTC

it can be studied

2017-06-09 23:53:40 UTC

Communists must hold values on tradition

2017-06-09 23:53:40 UTC

They're zombies, the perfect credit goyim.

2017-06-09 23:53:47 UTC

replacing an important of the military's culture, a rememberance and fear of useless war. The value of young men's lives.

2017-06-09 23:53:50 UTC

Or else who knows if they will destroy these things

2017-06-09 23:53:54 UTC

No one can guarantee that

2017-06-09 23:53:59 UTC

@OF-8 straw man

2017-06-09 23:54:04 UTC

All for the sake of glorious fascism

2017-06-09 23:54:09 UTC

No-one can ever guarantee the preservance of gems

2017-06-09 23:54:14 UTC

a cold fascism, withotu any heart and nation.

2017-06-09 23:54:15 UTC

@Blebleh Should chinese people be allowed to destroy Genghis Khan's grave?

2017-06-09 23:54:19 UTC

@Blebleh this is not a game of name the fallacy

2017-06-09 23:54:22 UTC

COMMIES

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GET

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COPTERS

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No exceptions.

2017-06-09 23:54:39 UTC

isnt the prescence of traditional korean culture greater in nk than in sk

2017-06-09 23:54:41 UTC

@Blebleh Will the government protect his grave

2017-06-09 23:54:51 UTC
2017-06-09 23:54:56 UTC

They arne't evne communist.

2017-06-09 23:54:58 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki Sure, once established would protect historical artifacts

2017-06-09 23:54:59 UTC

*even

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*aren't

2017-06-09 23:55:03 UTC

No

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I mean

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but what I was saying

2017-06-09 23:55:06 UTC

during the revolution

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and of course they're very nationalsit.

2017-06-09 23:55:09 UTC

that is

2017-06-09 23:55:13 UTC

i dunn o you are making the argument that communism destroys traditional culture

2017-06-09 23:55:15 UTC

that in a revolution, people are furious

2017-06-09 23:55:15 UTC

what will prevent destruction of tradition during a revolution

2017-06-09 23:55:18 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki who knows, depends on the people that do the revolution

2017-06-09 23:55:20 UTC

See, I cannot accept that

2017-06-09 23:55:23 UTC

and they could destroy symbols of oppression

2017-06-09 23:55:26 UTC

revolutions are too unstable

2017-06-09 23:55:27 UTC

too destructive

2017-06-09 23:55:29 UTC

Khan is very far from that

2017-06-09 23:55:29 UTC

It would take a revolution to get these armchair socialists off the computer.

2017-06-09 23:55:40 UTC

so I don't think they'd destroy it

2017-06-09 23:55:42 UTC

maybe that means destroying traditional structures

2017-06-09 23:55:46 UTC

I also cannot accept that

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there is no order

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lying

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fuck

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there has to be order in a revolution

2017-06-09 23:56:00 UTC

never trust a commie when they say they wont destry something

2017-06-09 23:56:07 UTC

a revolution is not a bed of roses

2017-06-09 23:56:09 UTC

they will destroy it, because they're a deathcult.

2017-06-09 23:56:10 UTC

Did Mongke block me?

2017-06-09 23:56:17 UTC

No

2017-06-09 23:56:24 UTC

socialist and far right fellows are litterally beating each other in the street, one sec its "antifa are violent terrorist" next second its "zomg all nothing but armchair larpers"

2017-06-09 23:56:35 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki You see, the problem is that you cannot decide whether to have a revolution or not. It will happen or it won't. Plus the future is unknown

2017-06-09 23:56:46 UTC

antifa are violent terrorists

2017-06-09 23:56:50 UTC

@Sampuka I will kill revolutionaries who try to destroy things for no reason

2017-06-09 23:56:53 UTC

the neets that pretend to understand marx are not

2017-06-09 23:57:02 UTC

cognitive dissonance

2017-06-09 23:57:13 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki That's what you say now, the reactionaries would try to destroy what they can too

2017-06-09 23:57:16 UTC

my issue is the neets pretending to understand marx have convinced the violent terrorists that its time for revolution

2017-06-09 23:57:19 UTC

Can we all just fucking agree that political violence should be stopped? When not provoked or against an authortarian govenrment?

2017-06-09 23:57:20 UTC

you litterally said antifa are fat sjw marxist a little while ago

2017-06-09 23:57:21 UTC

In a furious situation

2017-06-09 23:57:21 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki will you also kill non-revolutionaries that do such a thing?

2017-06-09 23:57:23 UTC

so my goal is to make them look as stupid as possible

2017-06-09 23:57:25 UTC

I can't predict these things

2017-06-09 23:57:28 UTC

so i dont have to copter em

2017-06-09 23:57:35 UTC

@Blebleh I would kill anyone who tries to mass destroy traditional architecture and gems

2017-06-09 23:57:35 UTC

you cant even hold a coherent opinion

2017-06-09 23:57:38 UTC

a stitch in time saves 9

2017-06-09 23:57:50 UTC

Shoot on site

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sight*

2017-06-09 23:58:01 UTC

your understanding is not my issue, you will be removed if you cannot understand

2017-06-09 23:58:16 UTC

This is a matter of directing evolution

2017-06-09 23:58:20 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki That's nice, convince them to not touch these gems; people don't have to see symbols of oppression in them

2017-06-09 23:58:23 UTC

one commie life means what?

2017-06-09 23:58:33 UTC

inbreding works great for dogs

2017-06-09 23:58:37 UTC

@Blebleh No, they cannot be allowed to destroy them no matter what. There must be order in a revolution

2017-06-09 23:58:40 UTC

or else I will fight against it

2017-06-09 23:58:48 UTC

life means nothing to the commie, apparently so...

2017-06-09 23:59:05 UTC

I will never support masses of crazed revolutionaries destroying everything in their path

2017-06-09 23:59:07 UTC

there must be order

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a chain of command

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The party

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>muh party

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will they control these revolutionaries

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or can they not

2017-06-09 23:59:37 UTC

what party nigger you couldnt hold a D&D game

2017-06-09 23:59:56 UTC

it depends on the party, if they have that line they'd condemn these people; they could call them putschists

2017-06-10 00:00:05 UTC

becuase then you'd have friends and not be trapped in this marxian goy trap

2017-06-10 00:00:13 UTC

but if for example there's a fascist statue and people take them down, maybe not

2017-06-10 00:00:24 UTC

I don't think Khan represents it

2017-06-10 00:00:29 UTC

what if they call genghis khan fascist

2017-06-10 00:00:31 UTC

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/308950154222895104/322887720462450688/1496366100260.jpg

2017-06-10 00:00:32 UTC

and take down his statue

2017-06-10 00:00:34 UTC

I cannot accept this

2017-06-10 00:00:37 UTC

no

2017-06-10 00:00:53 UTC

@Sorghagtani Beki this can happen at any time from anybody, revolution or not

2017-06-10 00:00:54 UTC

In times of Khan fascism didn't exist

2017-06-10 00:01:02 UTC

No, right now governments would prevent this

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because that is government property

2017-06-10 00:01:08 UTC

@Blebleh you dont get to tell people what to do, because you're of low status

2017-06-10 00:01:18 UTC

no violent revolution to destroy it

2017-06-10 00:01:21 UTC

you're of low status because you think commies are cool

2017-06-10 00:01:28 UTC

sort yourself the fuck out m8

2017-06-10 00:01:37 UTC

I'd preserve it

2017-06-10 00:01:37 UTC

a violent revolution would have the ability to inflict great harm

2017-06-10 00:01:41 UTC

@OF-8 can you stop sliding the chat tho?

2017-06-10 00:01:47 UTC

y tho

2017-06-10 00:01:51 UTC

what if I get accused to be fascist

2017-06-10 00:01:52 UTC

when I am not

2017-06-10 00:01:55 UTC

for obvious reasons

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and my house gets ransacked

2017-06-10 00:02:02 UTC

>tells some one anti-hierarchical that they are of low status

2017-06-10 00:02:08 UTC

is there some kind of strucutred rule system in play?

2017-06-10 00:02:13 UTC

The party wouldn't support that

2017-06-10 00:02:18 UTC

the party would not

2017-06-10 00:02:18 UTC

?

2017-06-10 00:02:24 UTC

I'm talking about the revolutionaries

2017-06-10 00:02:31 UTC

the angry revolutionaries

2017-06-10 00:02:38 UTC

those are individual anarchists

2017-06-10 00:02:43 UTC

they wouldn't get far

2017-06-10 00:02:45 UTC

they will be shot

2017-06-10 00:02:47 UTC

hey look if we're making up rules as we go along, ill limit the shitposting but 1. who the fuck are you to ask and 2. lets codify the fucking rule then

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