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jatoch

'n paar mense dink ek kan nederlands praat

sorry

Im not familiar with Nederlands, but i am familiar with lazy people we maybe we could manage a discussion

Ek het niks van jou verstaan nie XD

Where u guys from? xd

USA

What doy you think of people voting for Hillary ''because she is a woman''?

German with interristing family

hillary sucks, she is not progressive enough

So would you mind living in an Conservative nation, or do you go full autistic on it?

I mean by saying ''imma move to Canada)

fourchan, i do not think you would like a real conservative nation

you live in the nederlands, thats a socialist utopia compared to the USA

you would hate conservative capitalism, i bet , if you know what it ment

I know i know

so , you like socialism... good then

you realize how good it can be

Im not really uptodate with the political meanings, but socialism is like a democracy right?

fourchan.... did you know the minimum wage in the USA is 6.25(euro) /hour

what is it there?

I'd like to know the dutch minimum wage as well

Im 20, work 9 hours a week and earn €4,50

where you at sieg, blessings everyone

Overseas german citizen

If you work a 40hrs week and are older then 23, you have a minimum wage of €8.96 (without taxes)

whats the min wage Fourchan? that does not sound right

so there are age brackets?

till 23, yhe

whats the min wage for the younger ages?

if you dont mind me asking

between 30-85% of this amount for persons aged 15–22.

google says

Im making a spreadsheet atm, 1sec

no problem

im looking for a free software, since I dont own office

i found the answer

google sheets?

so everyone over 23 years old makes 20% more money than the USA min wage

so capitalism would have you make less money

without taxes

im looking now, actually, the americans pay more for the lower brackets and get far less in benefits

our middle to low incomes get taxed at 30% and they still have to pay for healthcare, and education

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1O_57tvLfSDRslW7UkWYarar3bbYvrIkzHg_iEhKSDn4/edit?usp=sharing

no paid vacations, no benefitss

@Olipower509 Poland

Hillary's politics were very anti-women, she got funding from Saudi

This is Poland and not Holland thanksfully

no maternity leave

so how does american capitalism sound so far FourChan?

What do you mean with benefitss?

if you move to the usa..... you will make 20% less money

you will pay more taxes for you income bracket

and you will get no benefits, you will still have to pay for healthcare and education

But we pay for Education and Healthcare too?

my fault, i assumed that

Healthcare goes from 80€ till infinite p/month, and you get student loans

yea, im looking now.... your insurance Is MUCH cheaper than in the USA

How come tho?

and i would bet it covers more

competition?

because you probably have regualtions and caps on the amount of profit you let insurance companies make

or something like that

Because insurance groups despite being given 4billion dollars and 30milluon more customers say their cost went up cause obamacare

We have various healthcare bussinesses, and you can pay 80€, but it will cover almost nothing

Im a 20yo Student and pay €130

but you have a max of like $350 or something, we pay much more

How much do u pay/month?

FourChan, if you have health insurance in nederlands, and you get lung cancer and have expensive tx.... does it get taken care of there?

My insurance is through my union only 30$ a month but doctor visits still come out to about 100$ a pop with it

https://youtu.be/9FU3C7vh1jI

because in the USA you have to pay for healthcare insurance, that does not work, and people in up with $100,000 dollars worth of medical debt after surgery

they get a huge bill

You will always have to pay €385, and anything over it will be covered if you choose to get it covered

so people do not have medical debt there really?

if u cover something, your monthly payment will increase ofc

except your teeth, your max covered till 500€ p/year

becaue in the USA, you can get medical bills for hundreds of thousands of dollars ,, that forces you into bankruptcy

even WITH insurance

You can get big medical bills, it depents if you choose to cover it

I still owe a hospital 3000 for misdiagnosed chicken pox

If you go for €80 p/month and break ur arm, ur fukt

but its worse in the USA

Then how do people even exist?

so healthcare is more expensive and worse outcomes in capitalism..... and you get paid less..... anything you like so far FourChan?

I owe 700$ for 2 stitches at a clinic too

we all have debt

I owe the IRS 500 for tax year 2014

How can everyone have debts?

^ I'll stitch you up... same same

How do you even have money then?

How do you even have a house?

FourChan.... Most people in the USA do not have money, they have debt. and also Most people do not own thier own homes

only like 20% own homes i think

So can you have socialism without giving lazy people free money?

FourChan.... rich people take more free money and are much more lazy than poor people

Might be

its a fact

poor people pay MORE in taxes

But there are a lot of people who dont wanna get a degree in anything, stop school after highschool ans drink beer and smoke weed all day, and they get a fair amount of money every month

Can you have socialism without that?

us already has super ineeffective corporate welfare socialism

basically we funnel our tax payments for shoddy services from private corps

Fourchan..... poor people are not the problem

and claim its caring for people

I get it

but still?

rich people take more tax money and benefits, and pay less in taxes

and worse less

and create less

in here the more money you have the more taxes you pay

significintly higher

i lose about 100$ from every check for federal taxes weekly, i make 12$ a hour or did till i was harrassed out of my work plce for being a freak

its all about %'s Fourchan...... if rich people make 90% of ALL new INCOME- then they should pay 90% of all new tax revenue.. its that simple

what they do is they never move the poverty line and increase cost of everything

80% of all money in Netherlands is in a certain group of people over here

but thats not my point

all money and , all new income are not the same thing

most certainly not new income

not in here atleast

99% of the wealth is in about 10% of the peoples hands in the us

the top 1% make 90% of all NEW income in the USA

FourChan

RIP Capitalism

its not even capitalism, its nazi esc corporate socialism

Socialism wins... bong rip!

bong rips for everyone in fact, because im socialist

nazi corp... wrong

but i mean thats the envitable conclusion of capitalism it seems no matter what

you mean jewish corp

i was refering to the economic system, similar to what hitler did

nazis were national socialist, not globalist capitalists lol

get your jew economies right, lol

they did the same thing american capitalist do tho

you are wrong

why socialism doesn't work in a nutshell.

use the government to funnel money into their corporations, im not wrong ... its plain fact and obvious, look at the bank bailouts and insurance bailouts

the nazis were national socialist, that was nothing like classical economics(modern capitalism)

But there are people in Netherlands that (as you just tolld me) have a way better life then most USA citizens, they still complain, they dont work at all, they collect as much benefits as they can get, and they slurp giant amounts of tax money.
This bothers me alot, how do I motivate these people to become part of the workplace again?

look at the welfare system, its literally run by corporate entities in the us

im socialist i just hate us corporate socialism

im not pro capitalist at all

you might be correct FourChan.... but why does that bother you MORE than rich people doing nothing and getting even MORE?

Because I see these people every day, and they're in my face

the rich arent

^ good point actually

And a good 90% of the working people really get angry about it

And you dont need that

same here, nationalism and socialism is on the rise for sue

sure

"corporate socialism" wat

us

is

corporate socialist

just look at legislation and where your tax money goes

corp socialism can work, it would be something like a co op system, where the people in the area who work actually own in part the plants they work in

but thats not real corporate socialism

they would have a vote on how the profits are distributed

real corporate socialism is the elites creating laws to funnel tax payer money into their pockets

And im not trying to be anti-muslim or anything, im just stating critical critisism, the maturity of Muslims fail to integrate and go the path of those non-working people, and their children grow up with such parents, and have a very high chance to do the same thing, they realise you cant buy a new BMW with benefits, so illigal activities are a easy way out

you are using socialism wrong (ghost)

whatever your name is

And I would love to see them function great in this society, but it just creates even more anti-muslim hate

im refering to the actual system in place in the us... im not refering to good socialism where the people control

socialism is not in place here, you are just talking about corp welfare

this subject is talked about extensively by modern anarchist and corporate socialism is a very accepted phrase to explain whats going on in the us

unless the people decide how the profits are distributed... its not socialism

you are just getting a weird boner and assuming im trying to bash actual socialism

not at all, i just think your using the word wrong

https://google.com/search?q=corporate+socialism+in+the+us

i think youa re just being a autist

i think your just shit posting random google searches for some reason

what is your guys opinion about fat-acceptance?

i dont accept it

its a nonissue

and you are a idiot for caring about it

as tho its a real issue

I think there should be DIATES KILLS on McDonalds hamburgers just like on cigrattes

the term is just corp welfare in the USA

not corp socialism, all though i get how people think they are the same thing

corp welfare and corp socialism are interchangable phrases and you are just being a autist cause you havent heard the numerous rants by modern anarchist using the phrases interchangably

you are trying to protect a word

rants are irrelavent.... does that make is reality?

basically

i can have a rant right now about some bogus shit, so what

"ZOMG THEY USED THE PHRASE SOCIALISM IN A NEGATIVE WAY!!!"

Do you guys really think guns save people?

yes, there are probably bad things with socialism as well.... thats why in AMERICA and even the definition is called corp welfare, its not called corp socialism lol

i think anarchism and socialism will only work if the peopleare armed

the definition of corporate welfare even points out corporate socialism is a alternative phrasing

whats the definition called ?

corp welfare.... thats right

you are being a autist for litterally no reason right now

this is why leftist never get shit done they quable over a fucking word

would you post were it says that in the definition?

please

and here you are still autisting over a fucking phrase

Corporate welfare is a term that analogizes corporate subsidies to welfare payments for the poor.[1] The term is often used to describe a government's bestowal of money grants, tax breaks, or other special favorable treatment for corporations. It highlights how wealthy corporations are less in need of such treatment than the poor.[1]

where does it say corp socialism?

you are truly pathetic yo

i have no need to call you names

like this is just dumb tho and you need to be called names

im happy in my argument

you need to realize the stupidity of this autism

you can not even post a definition

ok ill let you skitz over a word by yourself

i just said you are using it wrong, you are the one triggered

and unable to post a simple definition or define your terms

its great to watch this fire

fireside chat....

So do Americans have a problem, or does the USA have a gun problem?

probably both

people killing each other with guns have nothing to do with gun rights

The last time I heard of a homocide inclusing guns in here is

too long ago to remember

So theres probably a problem

And I would gues its expensive since you have to equipt your officers with AR right?

https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/opinions/2002/07/18/corporate-socialism/65e15154-982f-4418-bd4b-0868b9dba787/ zomgg litterally the person credied with coining corporate welfare using it interchangably

ok i go masturbate now

people need the power to off their leaders, thats why im against gun control

But there are crazy people in this world

more then u would expect

pretty much taht simple

if the ruling force is justified they shouldnt need to protect themselves from armed citizens

Doesnt that show lack of faith in your gouvernment?

if the ruling force is justified they shouldnt need to protect themselves from armed citizens

even britian with their guncontrol has a seperate police force armed with ars

why should you have faith in your government ?

I think every country has a special police force with every imaginable gun

But I was in a very weird period of my life, i forgot my faith in God, and i started thinking about crazy things

I dont want to extreme this, but i most certainly wouldve shot up my school if I was in reach of a gun

how can you be christian and not theocratic distributist/christian communist? did you not read the new testament?

I never tolld you guys my opinion about what I think is right

ok well are you christian communist or theocratic distributist ?

also come on appeal to emotion "SCHOOL SHOOTINGS?!?!?!!"

right just take all power from the people and give it to the state... sounds like a good idea, you know for the kids

Im not over exedurating or whatever the word is lol

im not tryna be edgy lol

im looking up theocratic distributist one sec

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributism

Lets just say, i love the system i live in today, although i strongly believe in the bible

but the current system basically spits in the face of the teachings of the new testament

lets take for example homosexuality, i totally disagree with it, but since the mayority of my country wanted it to be legal and the mairage of it, i dont mind it at all

but then again so does the church itself so w/e

i mean under the teachings of the new testament christians shouldnt really care if you are a homo unless you are of the tribes of isreal

I think weed shouldnt be allowed and the poor should be helpen, not be given free money to spend on whatever they want

My English isnt so great, so its hard for me to understand all these different kinds of politcal standings

im a drug addict retard who hits myself in the head daily