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2018-02-12 18:45:09 UTC

@southland So yeah I totally disagree with the "1488" vandalism terms in that I'd not use them or advocate folks use them.
@Charlemagne MD I've had extremely limited experience with Davis, but none of it has been outright bad, and I haven't looked into the rumors surrounding his suspected past, but since I cannot really enforce standards on people non-voluntarily, there's not much use in worrying about it, since it's out of my control, unlike the standards of PF.

I do think the militia/Libertarian/disaffected Trump crowd is the real meat of recruitment and outreach. These folks compose the large bulk of the politically active on the right in America, and getting them on board is not as impossible as many claim, seeing as how we've done it.

@NDO Nick-TX I will say their departure from what most claim to be "True" NatSoc policy is a bit odd, but when you treat those types of things as ultimate truths that cannot be changed for the nation or time in question, then you end up with those conflicting ideals of "what Hitler would have *really* wanted".

Our public outreach is vastly more successful because of our image and presentation. Revolutionary, yet familiar is the term I find that describes it.

2018-02-12 18:46:00 UTC

Also also, if we make a podcast, it'll be called "From The Front" for the cleverness of the name, and it'll be 80-90% about recent activism and then end with a call to action and get involved.

2018-02-12 18:47:27 UTC

Podcast market is a bit saturated but I think it would be worth it. TRS would carry it I have no doubt

2018-02-12 18:48:48 UTC

It's Saturated but i think it would sell well, people like activism and we tend to have high quality material.

2018-02-12 18:49:33 UTC

Yeah, podcast market is filled to the gills with shitposting, but our niche has always really been no-nonsense activism. That would be unique.

2018-02-12 18:51:03 UTC

You and Zel would work well. Then have whoever led the most impactful activism that week

2018-02-12 18:52:19 UTC

We'll have a chance to pick Jayoh and Mikes brain about it.

2018-02-12 18:55:31 UTC

So you disagree with the use of the 14 words?

2018-02-12 18:55:52 UTC

The 14 words aren't good optics

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2018-02-12 18:55:57 UTC

Although they are true

2018-02-12 18:56:19 UTC

Throwing 1488 on everything just looks bad

2018-02-12 18:56:20 UTC

@Ablesmith I am not against the concept, but the slogan itself is not merely the concept. And the slogan has a bit of an unfortunate history.

2018-02-12 18:56:31 UTC

Well certainly not vandalizing property

2018-02-12 18:57:32 UTC

Sure, vandalizing things is wrong but criticizing the slogan is... another issue

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2018-02-12 18:58:10 UTC

is this real

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2018-02-12 18:58:29 UTC

๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก ๐Ÿ˜ก

2018-02-12 18:58:45 UTC

All reds must hang

2018-02-12 18:58:47 UTC

In my experience when anyone sees the 14 words in relation to nationalism their immediate thought is NAZI NAZI NAZI.

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2018-02-12 18:59:43 UTC

@Ablesmith The slogan was created by David Lane, who wanted to live out the Durner Diaries by doing terrorist attacks and robbing banks and all that.

Do I disagree that we need to preserve our people? No. Look at everything we do and see that is not the case.

Do I think that you can be for the IDEA, without being for THE EXACT SEQUENCE OF WORDS insofar as they are a constructed slogan by a person who I do not agree with? Yes.

2018-02-12 19:00:03 UTC


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"You will not replace us!"

2018-02-12 19:01:05 UTC

Become who you are

2018-02-12 19:01:20 UTC

got kinda tainted by spergs tho.

2018-02-12 19:01:20 UTC

Btw, TWP didn't name their podcast "action!" Because they are "larping" as communists. The name is a throw back to Oswald Mosley's British union of fascists.

2018-02-12 19:01:23 UTC

Can someone send me high rez Patriot Front pics to post on Instagram?

2018-02-12 19:01:31 UTC

@Patrick MI Kept the URL mostly because there were tons of guys we recruited who were looking for the ex-VA guys that were still doing activism, and it helped a ton with staying at the top of search results.

2018-02-12 19:01:35 UTC

@hlaiwas Stand by.

2018-02-12 19:02:14 UTC

I like the use of the word posterity.

2018-02-12 19:02:19 UTC

TWP aren't communists, they're Strasserites

2018-02-12 19:02:27 UTC

Not even

2018-02-12 19:03:38 UTC

Btw, isn't blood and soil bad optics? It's the English translation of blut und boden which was used by the third Reich. I mean, we don't want to scare normies right?

2018-02-12 19:04:01 UTC

We aren't looking for normies, fam

2018-02-12 19:04:09 UTC

Again, read what I said about the URL earlier. It was a decision based in utility.

2018-02-12 19:04:11 UTC

Because we also chant it

2018-02-12 19:04:14 UTC

i understand why thomas used it as a url, but tbh it has a worse stigma than the 14 words imo

2018-02-12 19:04:15 UTC


2018-02-12 19:04:44 UTC

I do want to eventually get patriotfront.org or something like that, but buying new domains is a task and it's the difference between something we're already known for, and something we're not.

2018-02-12 19:05:14 UTC

Is that why the new stickers don't have the URL?

2018-02-12 19:05:35 UTC

Not exactly, we're at the top of the search results as Patriot Front so I thought it wasn't needed.

2018-02-12 19:05:45 UTC

Cucking ^

2018-02-12 19:05:46 UTC

We aren't looking to appeal to normies? I guess I misunderstand what the objectives of this group are then

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2018-02-12 19:06:10 UTC

We have so much coverage in the media, the URL isn't needed on everything anymore.

2018-02-12 19:06:29 UTC

People can just type our names in and the first 10 results are hit pieces on us.

2018-02-12 19:06:39 UTC

@Ablesmith We're not trying to appeal to everyone, we're trying to appeal to certain Americans who are looking for an alternative to the system we currently live under.

2018-02-12 19:06:40 UTC

And our website of course.

2018-02-12 19:07:10 UTC

You cannot have a message that has the sole purpose of appealing to the lowest common denominator, or you end up with baseless socialist claims of gibs for everyone.

2018-02-12 19:07:49 UTC

Tbh fam the fasces is really bad optics. I mean that evil guy Mussolini used it and stuff

2018-02-12 19:08:02 UTC

We want to be an organization that William Peirce would join

2018-02-12 19:08:04 UTC

Now you're just being sarcastic.

2018-02-12 19:08:30 UTC

That was the goal

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2018-02-12 19:09:14 UTC

That evil guy George Washington had one too.

2018-02-12 19:09:31 UTC

@NDO Eric - TX practically a nazi

2018-02-12 19:09:37 UTC

The absolute madman

2018-02-12 19:11:09 UTC

Can we replace the MLK monument with a big ass statue of George Washington?

2018-02-12 19:11:29 UTC

In self defense of course

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2018-02-12 19:11:57 UTC

If you are going to make the case that the swastika has been demonized because of the NSDAP I would figure that the argument would be applied for the fasces as well. After all, the swastika is an ancient symbol, just like the fasces. Regardless if our American forefathers used it, it has since been demonized

2018-02-12 19:12:04 UTC

I forgot where I saw this but there is a Heimbach quote from a video where he states to Schoep, "Maybe they'll have statues of us one day, but hopefully I'm about 40 pounds lighter."

2018-02-12 19:12:36 UTC

Ablesmith, the fasces isnt nearly as demonized as the swastika

2018-02-12 19:12:42 UTC

most people have no idea what it means

2018-02-12 19:13:24 UTC

Not nearly to the degree of the swastika. Most people have no idea what a Fasces even is

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2018-02-12 19:13:29 UTC

So all that matters is how others view us?

2018-02-12 19:13:49 UTC

It's about how we present

2018-02-12 19:14:03 UTC

no, but you can't be autistic about it, there is such a thing as nuance. the swastika is not an american symbol, The fasces is

2018-02-12 19:14:04 UTC

we still have fasces in the house chamber yeah

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If anyoneโ€™s on Instagram follow me. About to start posting PF material.

2018-02-12 19:15:02 UTC

Doxxd myself

2018-02-12 19:15:21 UTC

Iโ€™ll post that. Thanks goy

2018-02-12 19:15:32 UTC

@Ablesmith The fasces really has not been demonized, and is far, far more prevalent in American history and culture throughout Western Civilization. The comparison is flawed. It's not just how we present, it's also about using things we believe in. I believe in the symbol of the fasces because of what it represents.

2018-02-12 19:15:45 UTC

@hlaiwas Wait a bit and I'll send you a not messed up version of that.

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2018-02-12 19:16:01 UTC

crop skills/10

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2018-02-12 19:16:50 UTC

absolutely aesthetic

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2018-02-12 19:17:14 UTC

@Thomas Ryan PLEASE make these official propaganda.

2018-02-12 19:17:45 UTC

@everyone yโ€™all better follow me

2018-02-12 19:17:51 UTC

We don't do fashwave on the official accounts because it has colors other than red/white/blue. HOWEVER, you're free to post them on personal accounts and all that.

2018-02-12 19:18:09 UTC

Very cool.

2018-02-12 19:18:20 UTC

Yea those are badass

2018-02-12 19:18:55 UTC

Okay, question. Even though you don't use the swastika, do you beleive in what it represents?

2018-02-12 19:19:26 UTC

I believe it is a symbol that represents a people that I do not belong to.

2018-02-12 19:20:19 UTC

I'm going to say yes since most people associate it with George Lincoln Rockwell's "this is the symbol of my race" doctrine.

2018-02-12 19:20:39 UTC

But I don't think we should use it as an explicitly american organization

2018-02-12 19:20:58 UTC

I believe Thomas views it as german symbol specifically

2018-02-12 19:21:30 UTC

The swastikas is a foreign symbol, I wouldn't use the sonnenrand or Slavic sun wheel either

2018-02-12 19:22:23 UTC

The fasces is literally the physical representation of "from many one"

2018-02-12 19:22:45 UTC

they are both ancient symbols and I understand the affinity for it

2018-02-12 19:22:57 UTC

I think it's more of a broadly Germanic thing, if any. We also don't use relatively un-demonized runes like the black sun because they aren't American in nature.

2018-02-12 19:23:26 UTC

I don't know what your ethnic origin is but greater than our ethnicities the swastika represents the white race and even greater than that it is a symbol of the idea of ethno-nationalism as a whole

2018-02-12 19:23:29 UTC

That said, I happen to remember a few members with a swastika flag

2018-02-12 19:24:00 UTC

@Ablesmith How does the symbol itself, as part of its origin, represent ethnonationalism?

2018-02-12 19:24:29 UTC

You can have a swastika or you can actually have members, easy call for me.

2018-02-12 19:25:21 UTC

Youโ€™ve already got to be redpilled to appreciate the imagery, and without that youโ€™re just going to be turned off. Practicality over sentimental symbols

2018-02-12 19:26:02 UTC

It's an Indo Aryan symbol used by Hitler and the NSDAP. I truly believe National Socialism is the most successful form of fascism while it existed but it has nothing to do with what we are trying to accomplish

2018-02-12 19:26:28 UTC

@Rocky Place ๐Ÿ˜

2018-02-12 19:26:42 UTC

I believe he's making the point that it is a representation of the white race. I am simply saying that we are an explicit american organization and so draw the symbolism closer. The swastika is too wide. Let's not forget also that it has been programmed into many that it is an inherintly evil symbol. And while we do not agree with those people, it helps break the conditioning when you don't look like the stereotypical villain and still proclaim your values

2018-02-12 19:28:14 UTC

It was a symbol that was used by the most widely known ethno nationalists in history. It is used currently by nationalists all around the globe. America, Japan and South America to name a few. Of course I want to live in an ethno state full of white brothers and sisters from all European ethnicities but I will stand for any people that seek self determination and freedom from the Jews

2018-02-12 19:28:57 UTC

That's great. We're not using Swastikas so it's moot

2018-02-12 19:29:15 UTC

A race is a larger classification of a people than a nation. There are many nations which compose a race. The White race is composed of many nations, one of those nations is America. We are centered on national identity, not racial identity as the first concept we bring to the table. Universal symbols, as you see the swastika, are thus not really at the core of our message.

2018-02-12 19:29:53 UTC

Whatever. I'm not saying you should use the swastika.

2018-02-12 19:30:30 UTC

Its hard to read tone in text, so I hope we're all coming across as we intend

2018-02-12 19:30:40 UTC

I'm trying to deep dive into the ideology behind this organization because other than the manifesto there really isn't much substance

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2018-02-12 19:31:00 UTC

Isn't much substance?

2018-02-12 19:31:01 UTC

Give me a question, and I will give you an answer.

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2018-02-12 19:31:24 UTC

Your statement you made last sufficed for the answer I was looking for

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2018-02-12 19:31:49 UTC

Gotcha, well don't hesitate to bring anything up if you're curious.

2018-02-12 19:31:50 UTC

"The American identity has no substance but the swastika does"

2018-02-12 19:31:57 UTC

Odds are I've been asked something similar before.

2018-02-12 19:32:05 UTC

I didn't say the American identity has no substance

2018-02-12 19:32:08 UTC

@southland That's not what he's saying.

2018-02-12 19:32:21 UTC

I'm talking about the substance of this specific organization

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2018-02-12 19:32:35 UTC

The organization that you are a part of

2018-02-12 19:33:08 UTC

Point being?

2018-02-12 19:33:30 UTC

@southland He is more than free to ask questions about my positions.

2018-02-12 19:33:46 UTC

Calm down folks.

2018-02-12 19:33:58 UTC

Let's keep it civil.

2018-02-12 19:34:15 UTC

I like this group, but seeing people talk so much shit about other groups gets to me a bit

2018-02-12 19:35:07 UTC

I don't endorse the harsh critiques of other organizations. Everyone's stance to them should be at best neutral. Your mindset should be to provide an alternative if you believe they are doing something wrong, not to pull them down.

2018-02-12 19:35:18 UTC

That's always been my stance.

2018-02-12 19:35:55 UTC

Regardless of your opinion on their methodlogy, You have to realize that if we were in a dire situation, people like the TWP and even the NSM would rally around us with shields in their hands.

2018-02-12 19:36:38 UTC

And we would rally to theirs. Don't spend too much time in the general, its not healthy. @everyone

2018-02-12 19:36:43 UTC

I would not stop them from doing so. The reasons we do not currently work with them are simply organizational, not personal. I would have no issues with helping them if one of them was in need.

2018-02-12 19:36:53 UTC

I enjoy shitposting about anyone but when it comes to the bigger picture we all have common ground when it comes to who the enemy is..

2018-02-12 19:37:21 UTC

I am speaking purely of political positions and branding choices, not on the basis of personal value.

2018-02-12 19:37:48 UTC

I'm not talking about TWP. Questioning the substance of your own organization based around not using the swastika is a little strange to me, but I'll leave it at that if I'm in the wrong.

2018-02-12 19:38:46 UTC

Dude, I'm not dogging you guys for not using the swazi, I was just trying to make a point. My question of ideological substance is largely unrelated to the point i was making about symbolism

2018-02-12 19:39:30 UTC

Let's drop it. Points have been made.

2018-02-12 19:39:46 UTC

If you have a question, feel free to ask.

2018-02-12 19:40:13 UTC

@Thomas Ryan I canโ€™t follow us on instagram

2018-02-12 19:40:34 UTC

Says action is blocked

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2018-02-12 19:40:48 UTC

let's lighten the mood a bit

2018-02-12 19:41:03 UTC

@Lucilomar - FL Odd. New to Instagram. Will figure it out. Any idea what it could be?

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2018-02-12 19:42:01 UTC

From what Iโ€™ve seen maybe it got reported or something. Theyโ€™ve been deleting a lot of Fash instagrams, let me try again

2018-02-12 19:42:24 UTC

It's still there fam.

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Not that I canโ€™t find it

2018-02-12 19:42:42 UTC

I just canโ€™t follow it

2018-02-12 19:42:45 UTC

It's definitely you I was just able to follow

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2018-02-12 19:43:21 UTC

I just followed on 2 accounts with no issues

2018-02-12 19:44:14 UTC

I can follow other accounts

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2018-02-12 19:48:06 UTC

I was IP banned from Insta way back, but this is on a new comp with a new email and all that so idk.

2018-02-12 19:50:31 UTC

It's good on my end.

2018-02-12 19:50:45 UTC

>Florida having computer issues

2018-02-12 19:50:50 UTC

Color me shocked

2018-02-12 19:54:33 UTC

@hlaiwas quality ig account fam

2018-02-12 19:55:42 UTC

You followed too many accounts too quickly @NDO Eric - TX

2018-02-12 19:55:56 UTC

@Chris MA thanks man

2018-02-12 19:56:12 UTC

@NDO Eric - TX C'mon fam.

2018-02-12 19:56:15 UTC

Why you do this.

2018-02-12 19:57:42 UTC

Followed 4 accounts

2018-02-12 19:58:32 UTC

I can still post. Y'all are crazy.

2018-02-12 20:06:42 UTC

Made the account 10 mins ago and blocco sudensco is already following us.

2018-02-12 20:07:07 UTC

any of you texas faggots wanna lift?

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2018-02-12 20:09:50 UTC

Get gud @Lathan_TX

2018-02-12 20:11:00 UTC

Letโ€™s lift and hit the mats

2018-02-12 20:11:11 UTC

What city

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2018-02-12 20:11:38 UTC

I think Lathan is a good 2 hours away

2018-02-12 20:12:09 UTC

I'm in Austin

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2018-02-12 20:13:09 UTC

I'm doing home calisthenics

2018-02-12 20:13:57 UTC

@Thomas Ryan instagram ghosted and permanently deleted and blocked my IP when I got doxxed post-Cville

2018-02-12 20:14:15 UTC

Yellow names are in Austin, friends.

2018-02-12 20:14:17 UTC

I think because so many shit libs reported my (private) account

2018-02-12 20:14:34 UTC

@RexLexus I should be on a new IP since it was just my phone.

2018-02-12 20:15:14 UTC

The blocked or new one?

2018-02-12 20:16:42 UTC

The old blocked one was only on my phone, which I have not connected to the new one. The ban was also around a year ago.

2018-02-12 20:17:53 UTC

Instagram prevented people from following me

2018-02-12 20:18:05 UTC

Instagram raped my sister

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I got zuccd at like 8,000

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Old Instagram before the redpill ๐Ÿ˜‚

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Itโ€™s like 3 years old

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๐Ÿ˜‚ 3%er lolol

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โ€œIsrael is our beacon of light in the Middle Eastโ€

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I see what you did there

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I was making a shitty joke.

2018-02-12 20:34:50 UTC

Current desktop background

2018-02-12 21:19:37 UTC

Nationalist bible study

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Join if you want wish to study the book of โ€œDed Kike on Le Stik,โ€ and the book of โ€œGod r super angry, and killz many faggots via genocide.โ€

2018-02-12 21:22:15 UTC

Shouted out patriot front, weโ€™re moving now men

2018-02-12 21:26:23 UTC

Wtf I love Mexico now

2018-02-12 21:26:36 UTC

Clearly, they're not sending their best. ๐Ÿค”

2018-02-12 21:27:44 UTC

"In service of full disclosure, both of my paternal grandparents are survivors of the holocaust, so maybe Iโ€™m a bit more sensitive to this material than the average person." - author

2018-02-12 21:28:03 UTC

(((Laura Feinstein)))

2018-02-12 21:31:07 UTC

PF Mexico City apparently has to be a thing now. ๐Ÿ˜‚

2018-02-12 21:32:56 UTC

Network 7 coming soon

2018-02-12 21:33:05 UTC

"This begs the question: Can a city strewn with copies of hate books and propaganda, even empty propaganda, really be a safe place for Jews, or gays, or communists, or almost any group persecuted by a far right ideology?"

2018-02-12 21:33:54 UTC

I understand normies defending faggots and Jews but this vile Jewess defending communists is rustling my jimmies

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2018-02-12 22:04:01 UTC

Since Iโ€™m going to Ukraine in July Iโ€™m gonna need some Patriot Front material to give to the Azov and national corps guys, Iโ€™ll also sticker around tourist areas In Kiev lol

2018-02-12 22:04:31 UTC

Check the pins in <#364051970409103362>

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2018-02-12 22:07:46 UTC

We are fighting against literally the most disgusting and degenerate people on earth.

2018-02-12 22:13:56 UTC

Yep, these are the same people that think they have rights to "Teach our kids", the same people that turn gullibe women against nature itself and have act all high and mighty when we speak out aganist it. The best part is, the everyday normie will go through mental gymnastics to either justify this or say this is somehow "NOT REAL" or my personal fav, they'll see it, get grossed out by it and then tune you out and go back to being a bugman apathetic pushover.

2018-02-12 22:14:07 UTC

>tfw when I'm Russian

2018-02-12 22:14:35 UTC

@Charlemagne MD Pretty sure you're an American, fam.

2018-02-12 22:14:39 UTC

I'm trying to find a big enough kolovrat patch to sow onto my Russian flag

2018-02-12 22:15:17 UTC

I meant by blood, but yeh your right๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ธ

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2018-02-12 22:22:11 UTC

Add sum captions to the pics lol

2018-02-12 22:22:47 UTC

@Charlemagne MD Stop complaining, fam. It's just aesthetics.

2018-02-12 22:23:04 UTC

Aesthetics bro

2018-02-12 22:29:29 UTC

Remember Goys...


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