#antifa_watch (Discord ID: 334778940717793280) in Charlottesville 2.0, page 2
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Why the fuck does that matter? If they make the decision to attack cops, they're not going to fucking worry about wearing a goddamn mask
i've dealt with antifa so many fucking times
prepare for the worst of course
but if the police do their jobs there will be no issues
Why is there so much hostility in here, we are all on the same side.
Why don't you agree to disagree.
i was just bantzing erika earlier..no hostility
we have a history
as for that i dunno
I see, hard to see that stuff through text chat, seemed rather hostile at a glance.
Becuase people have a good chance of getting hurt if they listen to Erika and don't prepare for violence, expecting all of our enemies to be pushovers.
@Erika if you have an issue with the way we approach things I can make sure that nobody will interfere when these cowardly pushovers make a move for you
I'm sure that as a strong empowered shield maiden you'll have no need of any of our opinions, since you're always 100% right and don't need the knowledge, skills, or training of anyone else here
I believe the vast majority of people are aware. And besides, I quote Erika "We're all aware antifa are dangerous"
Prepare for the worst, but the LARPing from your side of the aisle is ridiculous and counter productive. I obviously appreciate the security work that's being done for this, but preparing out men and reiling them up to go scrap in the streets is literally just going to end in our guys getting arrested. The cops are going to do their job, the laws in VA are completely different, and you all are getting upset over nothing.
“There is no greater danger than underestimating your opponent.”
How is saying that people want to do us harm LARPing?
No one is underestimating anyone
She said that we're all aware that they're dangerous, armed with that knowledge, people can prepare for what they expect.
Yes you are
Hey Erika remember the last 5 times you opened your fat mouth about this exact thing and everyone got pissed off with you trying to shove your wrong ideas in it?
Stick to organizing Air BNB rentals and Carpools
Quite a lot
Nope, I'm not. You all can't read what I'm writing.
i seriously deal with them at protests all the time and they're neuterred without masks
@Hand Banana Please speak with some respect though, she hasn't disrespected you, yet you are making this very personal, again, we are all on the same team.
and i do keep reiterating to prepare for the worst
but people going in wanting to fight antifa are gonna cause a lot of trouble
The fact that our enemy tends to back down when they don't have masks doesn't need to be said, it literally only leads other people to underestimate them. Just prepare for the worst. That's it. That's all that needs to be said.
i think a good approach may be making sure our vehicles are secure and people aren't out alone
because in my mind that is the biggest concern
"They literally never square up face to face with us"
Just don't get caught by yourself, always keep your allies next to you.
There is no need to say such things
@WhiteTrash The most Antifa presence I've seen was at the Pikeville rally but I've been involved in street activism since last fall across the country
Everyone should have a battle buddy, pair up for safety
When is that document being released?
@V I T A L I T Y There's also no need to continue arguing about it, please can we just drop this one. Everybody just know, that they are dangerous, and prepare to deal with that, however, we are not to be the aggressors.
There is a need
There is definitely a need to argue about whether or not it's okay to underestimate our enemy.
I will continue to correct people when they provide false information that can lead to people being injured or killed.
Yeah, 1:1, antifa absolutely don't square up with our guys face to face. And they certianly aren't brave without their masks. @V I T A L I T Y
It doesn't matter
Serves no point to point out what we think they won't do.
Pretend they'll square up and do anything else they can to hurt you
That's literally why I've been saying for the past month and at every other event I bring men to "prepare for the worst".
We are going up against an opponent that outnumbers us by a large ratio and is just as ideologically motivated and fanatical as we are. I don't care if you think they won't square up against us 1:1. I'm going to prepare for them to do so.
The problem is you're saying "Prepare for the worst, but they probably won't do X"
Just leave it at "prepare for the worst."
Anything else leaves mental doubt on what they might do, which is dangerous.
No, because I'm not going to get people excited to go fight in the street with antifa because I don't want my men arrested. We are not going to this event to fight. Fighting antifa shouldn't be a goal of why people are coming to this.
erika and i are just drawing from our previous experiences
Literally nobody is saying to go fight them and start altercations.
I've seen several people say that.
Erika's point is that we will be prepared, but we will not be the aggressors. Why is there still any need to argue.
If we did this in public, we'd be a joke.
Moods need to be tempered. That's all.
Let's keep it civil and respect eachother at the very least. Our goal is all the same.
Naming yourself after a Rick and Morty character is a joke.
I am not seeing anybody suggesting we start the violence.
Well, I have.
You argue like a Jew Erica
It hasn't been any of our larpers that are calling for violence. Maybe it's your men.
And it's a problem. Fighting needs to not be the goal of this event, and I see far too many people getting way to excited to scrap with antifa.
Identity Evropa men don't act like that.
All of you need to calm the fuck down for the night.
Ah, the Grand White Knight appears
The Grand White Knight of the Erika Defense Force
Counter signaling the idea that it's okay to rule out tactics the enemy might use is useful.
Otherwise people go into the event saying "antifa won't do this, antifa won't do that" and that's just stupid.
Late night bitching is pretty nigger tier is all I"m saying.
So what about late night white knighting?
Pretty cuck tier
Why are you like this Blake? Why are you even arguing? Can you not just accept that this is doing nothing?
Why am I upset that people are spreading the idea that it's okay to count out tactics our opponents might use? Man, why would I be mad about that?
No one is ruling out tactics. Holy crap.
You literally did
Not only today
Again, multiple times, she also said "Prepare for the worst"
Are you arguing just to arguing? You're making IE look like shit.
wow when did she ever say Antifa wont be doing something
>"Erika has nothing to do with it"
>Only chimes in when Erika is being bullied by meanie larpers
Right above that, literally right above it, "We're all aware that Antifa is dangerous"
They literally don't ever square up to us face to face in a 1:1 situation, and they are on even better behavior when they're not allowed to wear masks.
Please no more public drama
Stop typing Ericka. I don't care if Vanguard guys are flaming you. There are a million other ways to handle it.
You delete my message?
I'm taking it to DM
Dat public shame deletion
gotta get your women in line Matthias
I love these servers.
In all seriousness though, if you expect the cops to defend you, you're retarded. Don't pidgeonhole yourself into relying on zog puppets
Prepare to work with the cops, prepare for them to betray you.
Prepare to have women publicly countermand statements from Security and then cry when they tell her not to.
Matthias my goy 👌
Everything has been handled. Carry on. The operation order should be done shortly. We've had to make a number of changes based on communication with the various groups and law enforcement.
Are mom and dad getting a divorce?
I'm only going to say this about mood or mindset:
If you are entering a situation like this unprepared to get punched or have something thrown at you, you are much more like to have those things happen. The entire purpose of the (((event))) previously was for the opposition to have a dry run.
Specifically for countering the police. They are sitting in their rooms planning counter strategy for what happened. The cops tipped their hand by treating both events as "real." Meanwhile the political allies of Antifa in city government are at work pushing for alterations to police tactics to prevent unsightliness like the city upholding the rule of law to protect thought criminals such as ourselves.
We have to consider that, no matter what nice, or professional words we hear from the police, the political machinations of our enemies control their careers, and careerist police leadership gives the orders to the cops on the ground.
that niggers clueless thoug
doens't even know why the state police were there
Wes Bellamy gave a standing ovation to one of the Anti-White speakers.
This is ^^^^^^^^ pacifist America. We know you wanted to assemble but someone threatened violence and that not good so we have to shut you down.
Nothing political about it at all Goy.
Who is this [REDACTED]?
[REDACTED] is an oathcuck who advocated violence on behalf of the alt-right. he denounces WN, wants to "nail spencer" and basically made us look really bad, in a permit jeopardizing way. this is him:
That's very frustrating. Is he associated with any groups?
his convo with an antifa operative is here: http://solidaritycville.com/2017/07/17/Solidarity-Cville-documents-threats-of-violence-planned-for-August-12/
i heard Oathkeepers
@everyone [REDACTED] IS NOT coming to the rally. This has already been dealt with.
What group is he with?
Any details? I've been made aware he's been working on doxxing people
3% what? They don't have a name?
Probably very wise on his part. In no way would I advocate for violence, but I'm sure some people would be very unhappy with him.
3% cholesterol blood content
AMREN BORTHER 3% OR DIE
(FROM HEART FAILURE)
[REDACTED] is not a threat. He is a dumb country boy who got tricked by an Antifa pretending to be with the "WV Militia"
I contacted [REDACTED] and told him to fuck off. He said he's no longer planning to attend
Does his group have a name? I'm aware that you disinvited him.
So are we going to occupy very early? Or try and force this commie scum out after the fact? I'm good with either.
I'd highly recommend that we get there before they do, I'd honestly consider getting there as early as 7:00am myself.
They're just going to try to get there before us.
That's fine with me. My two brothers and I can be there as early as 5am if need be. We all are armed in our home state. 7 would work for us though. Occupy and hold the park early.
Most definitely, I'll be getting a good night's rest leading up. Gotta be ready bright and early.
We can't keep them out, to clarify...
It's a public park.
I don't propose keeping them out, I'd just much rather have our people there earlier than they get there. If they want to push through us to get in, so be it, they can come in. However, I also see us being there earlier really as a way to lower the risk of things getting violent. If antifa and counterprotesters have a majority in the park before we even get there, they're going to turn into cocky little shits and probably going to attempt to keep us out, or hassle us at the least. They can't do either of those things if we already have a good group of us there when they start showing up little by little.
I'm no strategist, but I just feel that there is no downside to getting there early.
defensive will be much easier than offensive. especially with the CCTV cams and aclu observers there to catch every little shove and make something of it later. get there early, form shield wall, don't tell any randoms what your name is
I'm not saying don't get there early. I am clarifying, we're just getting their early, we can't kick or keep them out of the park...
Of course not. I wasn't suggesting we try.
We can certainly set a perimeter and take every (peaceful) opportunity to expand it.
Seeing as some of the shield wall component of security won't be able to drill and organize with groups before the rally, why don't we mandate that the main security arrive a good bit early for the dual purpose of occupying the park and getting some experience of how we will be setting up the wall before the larger crowds of resistance arrive?
@JCAdams That's right good buddy we got each other's back. Whatever happens, happens
Serious question, are there going to be port a johns? It's gonna be hot af, so people need to stay hydrated.
Pee in balloons and throw them at communists
In self defense
@Keaton-AL We're going to be putting out a short training video to help get everybody on the same page regarding the shields
lol, that oathcucks wife looks like Chris Farley
[REDACTED] isn't a bad guy. He said what he said in banter. Regardless I would not consider him a threat in the least.
Also o haven't read everything above but I see a lot of stuff about Antifa and their fighting tactics. From what I've been reading I wouldn't worry about Antifa here as much as the feral naggers that will be there in droves. People are calling for their gang member friends to make appearances.
They will indeed 'square up' and be aggressive AF
[REDACTED] Seems like he really fucked up though. That was a very very avoidable issue. If an anonymous profile starts messaging you about tactics, especially at a time where we have to be 110% cautious about security, what is your natural response? To tell them everything? To tell them that you'd turn around right after the rally and "Nail Richard Spencer"? To advocate directly for violence against groups that oppose you?
The dude he was talking to was verified by several other reliable people and then flipped.
I get it was stupid. Ultimately not a threat though. Just wanted to add that in. We have a lot more craziness to worry about.
SPLC reporter ((([REDACTED]))) who has a hard on for LS. she was at our conference, so we wouldn't be surprised to see her here. SHE IS NOT YOUR FRIEND https://www.facebook.com/REDACTED
got caught taking unauthorized photos
i remember that bitcdh
SPLC/ADL is def not anyones friend. Although I enjoyed the Vanguard America article they posted.
That was a great series honestly
The ADL wrote Vanguard's year in review for me!
I want this meme to die already.
That is the single most ((())) face ive ever seen
She couldn't make it more obvious she was my enemy if she held up a neon sign saying "I plan on being duplicitous and dishonest in my reporting"
They even got whif of the banner drop in Austin... Little do they know DC has a bigger one planned
Yvonne Felarca was arrested on Tuesday night on charges of assault by means of force likely to inflict great bodily injury, participating in a riot and inciting a riot.
Awwww, I guess she'll miss CVille 😢
damn i was really hoping she would be with BAMN @ 2.0 to "trip and fall" or whatever
"Want to update bigotry for the 21st Century". They've figured us out.
I am in Ann Arbor today. There are a ton of groups of commies asking for donations to fight racism in cville
im photographing them
hold a sign next to them saying they are domestic terrorists
I would but I'm with family
I am photographing them though
more people more signs <:bowlcut:330193760644497409>
can;t wait to see the pics
He's Detroit Right
They better be careful
I mean, because he's with his family.
These two had a much larger group of crusties with them, they took off before I could get in range. They were playing shitty punk songs asking for donations to go fight hate in cville
IWW had a booth up and were also soliciting to send people down to charlottesville. These two fucking blobs have never seen the inside of a plant, nor have they ever worked a day in their fucking lives.
Some group called spark had a table, I waited around a while, it was unattended the entire time.
This was all just in Ann Arbor, one commie group openly soliciting donations to send their people to confront us, a group of antifa crust punks begging for the same, and another commie group that I would not doubt was as well.
If you guys live in leftie areas and have art or street fairs coming up, it'd be worth it to mosey through and see if your local leftists are out trying for the same thing
There are people on it as far as I know
I was at a Confederate flag rally recently where Antifa showed up early to "occupy the rally area." The organizers had a permit, so cops moved in and physically removed the Antifa. They arrested three and made the rest take off their masks. At least two of the three were charged with serious crimes. This completely demoralized the Antifa and set the stage for a rapidly deteriorating Antifa presence. They were standing there humiliated and half wouldn't even look directly at us because people were taking their pictures. Within thirty minutes their crowd was rapidly dwindling. Some of them walked down the street and huddled in a dark alley and didn't even protest for the majority of the rally. Over the next few days, there was massive doxing of Antifa online. The ringleaders were all teachers and grad students at two different local Universities. This led to actual twitter and Facebook pages being deleted because people were mining them for info. So if Antifa shows up at 9:30 to occupy the park, it will probably work out in our favor. The county and state police already demonstrated that they are willing to arrest large numbers of Antifa two weekends ago.
@TiborSzalasi-MI tfw ur BMI is too high to be taken seriously as a communist
@here just a little taste of some intel, SURJ is anticipating being OUTNUMBERED apparently
How do you know that they anticipate being outnumbered?
@WISIS I think I know the one in the middle wearing olive...
oh yes, now I know: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1bFr2SWP1I
@TiborSzalasi-MI that's the guy's group that's way up '[REDACTED]' was was arrested at the vigil the night after the Torch rally.
Sry/ just had a second. The crusty street things in Ann Arbor that @TiborSzalasi-MI saw today raising money for Cville- they travel a lot with the guy who is posted about up above in this channel. [REDACTED]. Make more sense?
I'm sure a lot of crusts do
Are they those specific ones?
re: the article above. Is Unite the Right really actively disassociating from the Confederate flag or is that just real in the reporter's mind?
Thats just in their mind dude
Last Cville we had an honor guard toting the bonnie blue flag and four other confederate flags, and a significant amount throughout the crowd
Many of the ads for this rally have the confederate flag on them as well
Yes, it's a group that travels here together often, a few of them are from here.