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in my opinion
Also, there isn't anything "nihilistic" about my belief system. I have never once argued that life was meaningless. I have argued that biology itself will force you to have a meaning, and anyone who does not embrace it will usually not survive or reproduce
well, knowledge does greatly influence it, but the appropriate neurobiology being absent, knowledge will not yield us morality
so its not the primary item
its a major factor though
Why not?
it's defined by what is best for the group, is it not?
Intelligence and Wisdom are two different attributes <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>
Doesn't really contradict what I said, I was combining them into one
anyway
the way I would say it
biology gives us a foundation of morality, we build on top of it with what we know or what we perceive to be the truth
well yes
I can agree with that latest summation
biology serves as the necessary foundation, but from there information complexity begins to take the leading role
I spot a double space. <:ree:520000441036046336>
lol
french police have stormed the oil depot
and firefights are working on putting it out
@Ventruvi post news links
no news site's covered it yet
oof
just one greek lad's stitching together all the posts he can find
and i think he's on scene too
I'm Brazilian btw, Ventruvi. And this is my most recent Political Compass result <:30yoboomer:521380551316209668>
<:ree:520000441036046336> commie
tfw in the ML quadrant
I'm not a communist lol
but you should be
who'd you vote for in the election
embrace it
Bolsonaro @Ventruvi
Bolsonaro is horrendous ๐ฉ
good lord
commie
Communism is our eternal enemy
<:ree:520000441036046336>
Communism will win
oh wait
Silly immoral untermensch
@Xinyue neo-liberalism will probably win at this rate
sadly
silly brazilians with the odd party names
> untermensch
more like รBERMENCH
ha!
ha-ha
ok I'll show myself out
you aight i guess
@The Big Oof unfortunate, but true. global capitalism is set to dominate
we must team up together, no more brother wars
faashbol gang
and with automation and entrance of administrative as well as military AI, I fear that its consolidation will this time be permanent
> fashbol
ooh
i want my country back
i want men to act like men too
Abominable Intelligence is not allowed
tbh Mosleyite philosophy tends to fall into what I call "Left-Fascism", its something I might be able to tolerate
@Xinyue Would you consider Peronism to be "left-fascism"?
it kind of sort of was
He was not <:redpill:520001018348437524> on the woman question
unfortunately
i was libertarian four years ago
Wasnโt Peron a literal Freemason
i've drifted up though
alot
@The Big Oof hmmm I'm not well acquainted with that particular ideology but it sounds like I should be. Does it have connection to Falangism, by chance? No?
I made this some time ago
No, but it was influenced by Italian fascism. Peron was the dictator of Argentina during the earlier days of the cold war @Xinyue
I archived my results ever since I joined political discussions
ah, I see
he called himself third position and embraced the economics of fascism, but he also gave women the right to participate in elections
i ain't been archiving sadly
i can remember my past charts tho
hmmmm. see, I think that Left-Fascism would be defined by embracing economic position more closely associated with the traditional left. In general I see left-right dichotomy *strictly* in property terms - with social property given primacy in left-wing ideologies, and private property given primacy in right-wing ideologies
roughly like this
i never was a big fan of the left
Ok that's a lot of right, blue ones are pretty rare tbh. I don't even know how you can get that far.
the left in canada pushed me
I think you have to edgelord it to make it into either the top-left corner of red quadrant, or the top-right corner of the blue quadrant
Oh, so you're a reactionary. Makes sense.
also
i'm anti-abortion anti-immigration anti-gay marriage and anti-LGBT
most people call movements that aren't leftist, "leftist"
So you're normal
i guess
the vast majority of political movements are centrist in nature
"Leftist" tends to refer to neo-liberalis
....
i also hate trudeau with a passion
but they are like
anti-leftist
lmao
That's not what I meant
I meant that's how people define Leftist
Not that was what a leftist is
that's utterly ridiculous though
But that's what they think
also apparently believing first generation immigrants cant fully integrate with society makes me right wing
I would define Leftist as socialist and anything beyond that
I mean I think its very hard to argue that Bernie Sanders is like a genuine leftist either
and yes
I agree
Bernie Sanders is a welfare capitalist
bernie sanders is a socialist
leftism is synonymous with socialism and its various schools of thought, whether that be communism, mutualism, anarchism, syndicalism, etc.
Nah, he isn't a socialist
he isn't
no
he is a social democrat
he thinks socialism = FDR and Europe
basically the same thing
now, social democrats *used* to be leftists
but they aren't anymore
haven't been for half a century
they used to want social ownership of means of production
but that was since then dropped
what people tend to call socialist countries are normally social democratic
for example, I'd consider the Strasserists to be absolutely leftists, despite being national socialists, and this is due to the economic views of Otto Strasser
Hitlerists on the other hand were not leftists, but rightists, and this is due to the economic views of Hitler
it all comes down to the productive relations - is the basis of property social, or private?
i don't like being forced to share what i've worked for
if people need, and i care
i'll give
but i'm not giving to people i don't care nor want to give to
that's not it actually
Everything within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state. This is how property ought to be.
the idea is that people *produce* things jointly, and share in the jointly created prosperity
its not that we take from you what you've done for yourself
that's not the purpose of socialism at all
socialism is when gooberment hurt wallet
<:boomer:521456245505523712>
lmao
we do have a boomer ancap mod here
but he seems to be offline
> boomer ancap
oh god its like the worst of all worlds
He's not ancap
FDR was a tool of the bankers
FDR was fake and gay
Socialism is Bernie Sanders and Jesus
AnCap is funny.
or at least that's what Neil DeGrasse Tyson told me
Jesus had some pretty socialisty takes, although it would be wrong to attribute to him a future system
Jesus wasn't a socialist
I was making fun of something he said
i was almost an ancap
"Dude treat people nice and be humble"
then i realized anarchy cannot work
I don't get it, is there any socialism that doesn't think that people produce things jointly and with that serve the bigger goal?
Jesus is a Monarchist
Jesus is nazbol
looks pretty Marxian to me ๐
Christbols use this to justify their ideology
ChristBol is best form of Christianity
and it will be officially sanctioned in the coming Second Union of the Soviet peoples!
That was when the church was made up of a few hundred people, itโs not applicable in a Christian society
heil Dugin
its applicable in christian society via the teachings of St. Marx and St. Engels
Bolshevism is gay
And not Christian
Of course it is
and isn't Christian
he's meming
Is โChristbolโ meant to be ironic or do they genuinely believe themselves to be Christian Bolsheviks?
both
there are Christbols out there
see Jamestown
Thatโs retarded
wait
That wasn't what it was called, was it
what was the Christian commune called where they killed themselves
christbols who are catholic are to be bullied
Jonestown
But they werenโt really Christian
yeah
that was it
```Hate capitalism, not the capitalist```
- Saint Marx, in *Capital* 4:34 - 4:39
They were christbols
That was a CIA mind control experiment
....wait what
citation needed
woah!!! like polybius!!
Jim Jones himself was an admitted homosexual communist
it's a conspiracy
.....
theory
I meant it's a popular conspiracy theory
jim jones
john doe
second word didn't come out in time
so wait CIA mind experiment to create self-admitted homosexual communists? ๐ค
bob johnson
Minecraft works optimally with communism
No, there was a CIA agent there when it happened, and he got out of there right before it went down, they have it on video
FreshWholeMilk plays the 4D chess at a whole another level
mfw can't compete
the rank up took me off guard with the color change
!rank @Xinyue
<:fbi:508484036201545735>
mfw upgrade
Now you're properly red
>according to a book by Michael Myers
So the guy from Halloween wrote it?
I mean, he would know
> Now you're properly red
thas rite
Just funny he shares the same name as a fictional serial killer
Great minds think alike ๐๐ป
Dose anyone watch this youtube channel called Atlantean Gardens?
Is that that Robert Sephre guy?
Yes.
Or however you spell his name
Heโs a little weird
He's pretty interesting. But most of his theories are.. Waaaay out there.
He promotes a lot of weird neopagan and CI stuff
And he thinks that whites are related to every single ancient empire in human history.
Or direct descendants from
neopagan as in varg or neopagan as in wiccan
varg
Varg leaning.
Neither. Both
more like
virg
rt
im stealing that
He's some kind of curve ball tbh
He also seems to support Christian Identity, which is retarded and not Christian
Christian Identity is.. Probably the biggest larp. And I am a Christian.
Did you know that Varg means wolf?
Itโs not even his real name
Kristian
Yes
Varg is his fursona
oof
I guess the idea that some of the peoples around the Mediterranean being white might be somewhat possible. But, we weren't the ancient Persians or Egyptians lol.
โIโm a big gay wolf and Iโm coming to eat you Christcucks!โ
I donโt want to be associated with Phoenicians or Carthaginians
I'm satisfied with Ancient Romans and Greeks.
keroof
keroooof
Romans maybe, the Greeks were too Sodomitic and pedophilic
@FreshWholeMilk i thought it was the other way around
Some of what robert suggests is that the temples in Ethiopia were built by ancient aryans lmao
We wuz Ethiopians an sheit
we wuz aztecs n shiet
@The Big Oof you be a pretender browny
we da reel azteks
kang montazooma wuz wite
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