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Trudeau is being booed out of almost every public event he does
Oh yeah he was.
We need to keep minimum wages as low as possible in order to keep consumer prices down, and in order to provide more jobs.
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The less people have to spend on workers the more theyโll hire. If it costs $12 an hour to hire a worker youโre sure as hell not gonna hire as many as if it costed $9.
No, that employers hire more people if they have to pay their current staff less is not logically connected. It's possible, sure, but it is wishful thinking
By logically connected I mean that it does not follow with absoulte certainty
Itโs accurate thinking, iโd refrain from fully hiring alot of workers if it costed more unless I inflated prices to afford them.
Trudeau doesnโt understand that
Minimum wage is 15$ now
He has no simple basis on economics
Heโs practically debasing the Canadian dollar
It is accurate only if man were a perfectly rational creature. It is not though and people have other motivators than what is rational
It was already shit. Almost as low as shenghaiโs
Trudeau has turned out exactly like his father
To think nobody learnt from past mistakes.
You mean Castro? ๐ค
I think we need another che guevera but in Canada.
Minimum wage has autism
Justin โTrudeauโ Castro
Oh right
The theory that heโs castroโs son
Heโd be a man if he was.
Thats how I know he wasnโt.
Anarcho-primitive gang
But you discount the coupios amounts of soy that he probably consumed
He can still be his son because of this
Ski
Doesnโt excuse it
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He acts just like old trudeau
He lacks substance and character. He has no real stances of a real natural born leader.
Really pathetic he got voted in based off looks.
I mean
Wait until the next good looking guy is communist, Canadaโs fucked.
He was the official opposition
And everyone hated Harper
min wage should be abolished immediately
Abolishing wage would be ideal
Abolish goods and services
And thats where youโve gone too far
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what's wrong with the minimum wage though
the idea of a minimum wage rather
do you want workers to be underpayed?
howdy @Farook -welcome-to-the-nationalist-union-if-you-want-ranks-go-to- <#507040923884978176> -and-use-?ranks-to-see-all-available-ranks-and-use-?rank-enter-rank-name-so-that-you-can-join-one
Bepista are you a Falangist?
oh my fucking
I'm not spanish
I'm not a Falangist
I'm a National-Radical, I adhere to the ideology of the NATIONAL RADICAL Movement "Falanga"
the manifesto of which i have created is here
I've translated it myself
and everything you've read on wikipedia about RNR Falanga is outright bullshit
written by some dumb anglos that didn't translate anything
unlike wikipedia states, the organization was not inspired by any foreign movement at all
the explanation of the name "Falanga" is simple
it was the name of the newspaper
and in the first edition
there's one quote
that clears this up
"We are the Column of the Youth, We are the PHALANX"
howdy @Deleted User -welcome-to-the-nationalist-union-if-you-want-ranks-go-to- <#507040923884978176> -and-use-?ranks-to-see-all-available-ranks-and-use-?rank-enter-rank-name-so-that-you-can-join-one
I see, sorry for mistaking it
also please read the translation
i worked quite hard on it
and it was never done before
I'm trying to find a Spanish speaker that's also a Falangist so that I can learn more about the movement besides the 27 Points and the Rivera compilation
nigga
pls \
Yo
It should reflects on the value of work.
Oh shit I'm late
this
How do you meassure that value though? According to what metric?
Bepista why does it piss you of to be comapred with Spanish Falangists?
The ideals they had are almost the same as yours.
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Hello
Guys
I have a nice story
National Syndicalist gang
please dont tell me its from Kaisersheite...
howdy @Gith -welcome-to-the-nationalist-union-if-you-want-ranks-go-to- <#507040923884978176> -and-use-?ranks-to-see-all-available-ranks-and-use-?rank-enter-rank-name-so-that-you-can-join-one
@Deleted User what National Syndicalism?
Its a alternate history mod for Hearts fo Iron
what if Germany won WW1
No workers will be underpaid
If theyโre underpaid they wonโt be dumb enough to stay, the market will be so open you will easily find another job that pays a decent wage.
Then they have no employees due to low wage.
>Le market
It creates better competition
what is a cappie doing in a nationalist server
only the wealthier can afford big wages
btw, workers need minimal wages to live a decent life. not having a minimal wage will produce a system where everyone has a job but cannot live a decent life. Even if companies are loosing less money, so it's producing cheaper it doesn't mean that it will be cheaper enough to be an advantage for the people
because it's also reducing the wages
Fuck the capitalists
Fuck the bourgeoisie
You have the free market choice of 5 underpaid jobs, lifetime slavery, lifetime prostitution slavery and lifetime mercenary work (this one pays 3% more than the market average <:ancap:521375203893182472> )
@Deleted User
Syndicalism is an actual ideology. And it is the stand in for Bolshevism in Kaiserriech.
However National Syndicalism isn't present in the mod, to my knowledge.
Also I'm surprise you haven't heard of National Syndicalism, seeing as how it is real. You just know it as Falangism
ye
Falangism and National Syndicalism are more or less the same, to put it bluntly
Falangism is more Catholic.
National Syndicalism isn't inherently Catholic.
Plus National Syndicalism is not as anti Monarchist
And Falangism is?
Yes
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The Falangists were anti Carlists
That doesn't make you anti Monarchist lol
Most falangists I know are monarchists so I guess things have changed
Anti Monarchism is one of the core beliefs of Falangism
I've literally never met a single anti monarchist falangist
Now I'm confused
tbh
i think there's two kinds of business owners
bourgies
and managers
@shmuel Josรฉ Antonio Primo de Rivera was the founder and Leader of the Falange and he argued for a Fascist republic
I've never heard of such a thing, I'm confused
Some NatSyn Portugese art
@shmuel really?
Yes
" the conservatism one espoused by monarchists such as Francisco Moreno Herrera, marquis of the Eliseda, the authoritarian Catholicism of Onรฉsimo Redondo, the radical (and anti-clerical) national syndicalism of Ramiro Ledesma and the distinctive elitist regenerationism of Josรฉ Antonio Primo de Rivera.[3]" here's a quote from wikipedia
So yes there was Monarchists in the Falange but they were few and far between
That quote doesn't exactly say he was anti monarchy
Where are you from?
The UK
Here's a different quote
"The party was republican, modernist, championed the lower classes and opposed both oligarchy and communism, but it never garnered the kind of popular following demonstrated by fascist movements elsewhere in Europe.[8] For these reasons, the Falange was shunned by other right-leaning parties in the Spanish general election of 1936, where it received just 0.7% of the vote and did not win a single seat in the Cortes. It only surpassed one percent of the vote in five provinces, performing best in the provinces of Valladolid and Cadiz, where it received between 4% and 5%.[9] Having likely never exceeded ten thousand members in the early 1930s, the Falange lost supporters in the run-up to the Spanish Civil War, leaving a core of young, dedicated activists, many in the organization's student organization, the Sindicato Espaรฑol Universitario [es].[10]
Following the elections the left-wing Popular Front government persecuted the Falange and imprisoned Josรฉ Antonio Primo de Rivera on 6 July 1936. In turn, the Falange joined the conspiracy to overthrow the Second Spanish Republic, supporting the military revolt ultimately led by Francisco Franco and continuing to do so throughout the ensuing Spanish Civil War."
Interesting
I'll have to read the source saying that
Yeah I already got it
nice
Shouldn't be raised, taxes should be lowered and banks should be run by state not private central banks
hmmmmmmm
kinda yes and Yes
abolish minimum wage, raise taxes, and have no banks
Stop
get woke son
Looked into the author of the source, he's literally one of those "leftism authoritarian rightism libertarian" types @Filthy Frank
So I have trouble taking his work seriously
eh
Taxes are theft, a socialist state is cancer
STOP
You kind of notice that in the fist paragraph
***STOP*** @Loki
Marxism idiology <:brainlet:508484031625691156> <:brainlet:508484031625691156>
Capitalism <:virgin:508484108956073994>
Imagine being a libertarian
Corporatist state-non-consumer-capitalism when?
Imagine believing in capitalism or communism as ideal systems<a:milos:527176092524740610>
You can't be a lib without the tard part
begome
corporatist
owo
uwu
NatSyn gang
Imagine being a Christian
wew lad
Imagine being Ben Shapiro's sister
Bruh if I had tits like that
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lmao
Khazar milkers
I'd never get any work done
why did you brainlet react yourself
Cause her nose is still a throwback
Can use it to sniff out some coke though
Abigail Shapiro is the pinnacle of beauty
Sorry libtards
(((Shapiro)))
I wonder how many hygiรซne tests she had to pass to touch his teeth
Hang her by the milkers
Deformed ears too
Typical Ashkenazi trait
Oy gevalt! Who evar thought 6 gazillion khazar milkers died
posted
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likewise
Imagine believing any of that Loki
Holy shit, I just read comments made by Boers in the video that Petzers is talking about, I wish I had not. Truly horrific
Yet again the eternal Jew shows it's head
I never got why it's not talked about what is happening in South Africa, I mean it's not new. I can remeber reading a fictionalized story about a farmer that has a daugther that gets raped when I was about twelve
Kind of ironic isn't it? Wonder how he would react about a similar song about muh 6 gorillion
There is a photo of a rabbi presenting happy merchants
howdy @Ted Cruz -welcome-to-the-nationalist-union-if-you-want-ranks-go-to- <#507040923884978176> -and-use-?ranks-to-see-all-available-ranks-and-use-?rank-enter-rank-name-so-that-you-can-join-one
Thx
Anyways are you the Zodiac Killer?
Huh?
*Had Friedman indeed been guilty of writing and performing a song maliciously ridiculing the victims of farm killings and the distress their brutal deaths had generated amongst (mainly Afrikaner) white people, he could hardly have cried foul about any of this. It turned out, however, he had done nothing of the sort.*
This is from the article he is commenting and, suprise suprise, Petzer isn't even exaggerating. You should read it, it's is literally "*boho, you cannot critize the Chosen people, that's anti-semtism*". Fuck this gay earth. The people that turned a desolate wasteland in to a rich prosperous country is being viscously murder by litteral monkeys, and the world community is turning a blind eye because "Muh apartheid", a system that was designed to let the different tribes of the region to keep their cultural identities and to protect them from expansive tribes like the Bantu and the likes (not that it was perfect, mind you)
Sorry for ranting but this shit really triggers me
@Deleted User yes it does, its called totalism, also I donโt like Kaiser reich because there is no big entasis on the anti syndicalist movements, the fact they call the fascists of the universe โnational populistsโ is the biggest turn of for me and I find it insulting. They glorify the fuck out of the syndicalists but the nationalists/populists are left to be like they donโt even exist.
also funny how centrism docent exist in the mod lmao
[sad]I never got that mod to work on my game[/sad]
wao
Wtf is "totalism" ?
It's just nazbol and strasserism
In a shitty mos
Terrible politics
Alot of history bending and Wikipedia research
At the self admission of some of their devs
lol retards
Kaiserreich? More like Commiereich
Kaiserreich
more like
gay
No u
re: the debate q
i think there should be a minimum wage but im not tied to the idea. the minimum wage effectively communicates an expectation that people should be working in such a way thats at least hitting that low bar which given the amount we invest in people doesnt seem unreasonable. I think that welfare as it seems to be implemented undermines how effective that is, however
as for the second part whatever the value someone accepts for their work is what its worth
I support minimum wage, as it decreases migration.
Plain 'n simple.
@Deleted User Does it tho?
When minimum wage is imposed, buisness owners and special interest-folk would not seek massive amounts of immgration to get themself cheap labour. Once the wealthy have already a minimum wage to abide by, they would not support immigration. Donors and special interest rule the govermnent in most cases.
@Aki You understand?
@Deleted User I see the logic behind it.... but hmmm I am a bit busy atm so gonna think about it and get back to you on it.
Sure.
i dont agree that special interests and "big business" control the govt and if that were true you would not see min-wage laws passed based on what your saying. otherwise spot on david but you might have emigration as some might not be able to provide that level of work to support giving them minimum wage and would have to seek work elsewhere
You're right, the donors and special interest does not rule over the government, but breed among them like rats.
I articulated that specific sentence with hyperbole.
is it wrong that people advocate their own interest?
No-no, of course not, but afluence is a dangerous thing.
- A tool that can wreak havoc upon even the mightiest empire.
They, the wealthy, have the right in human nature to preserve their self-interest. But their interest does not represent what the people truly needs, - Which is the government's purpose in the first place; serving the people.
i dont think theres a necessity that "the people's" interests and the interest of individuals, even extremely influential individuals, must be at odds. that being said obviously there can arise situations where they do and i think that beyond all else the most important priority as "a people" is to figure out how to avoid those situations and create means of acting together for mutual interest in a beneficial way
The point that the state never wants to get to, is the point where politicians and the 1% mix, that is when you achieve maximum corruption and abuse of power. Therefor, the state must have certain regulations that keep the STATE over the individuals who only seek their own profit. Don't get me wrong, i'm no socialist / Communist, but I realize the importance of protectionism and restrictions.
realistically the "1%" and the politicians are always going to mix and they even need to, it would be stupid for instance to make provisions making cars less expensive if car manufacturers are telling you it wouldnt make a difference or even make it more expensive, for example. I agree the state needs regulations and provisions but with the recognition that individuals will always, in some shape or form, pursue their own profit to the exclusion of all else and that isnt a bad thing.
fuck protectionism tho
We agree. People will always pursue their own profit. But are you really willing to make the bold statement that what's best for the top of the hierarchy is best for the people?
in general if the system they are participating in is well constructed, yes
if the system is poorly constructed then perhaps not
People will always pursue their own profit, even if it means exploitation.
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