that is my question to you, fren.

I do not, no

at no stage have I argued for this

that's not how people think.

that's far too long term

Perhaps make people smarter and they will be wiser? Idk??

like

what I propose is a *solution to the problem you posit*

and people will be detatched from the end product, they don't care if the mutation came from a human engineer or an AI, if it's good it's good

dumb humans maybe

by that time again, it will be socially normal to do this.

the objective then would be to heighten our species

when you realize most people vote for instant gratification instead of long term sustainability 😩

Again, it doesn't have to be like that at all

again,

this is literally a problem **only** if you *insist we stay as we are*

the transhumanist movement needs to be defeated yes

I agree

this

"let AI live in the minds of every single one of us" type of charlatan

this needs to be defeated

but that has no connection to what I propose

you can do that with literally every problem posed by anything in the world, *it's only a problem if you insist we stay as we are*

even this tech you're talking about has some constraints mate

your a Utopian individual 😄

I mean what is your solution then? Do not improve the intelligence levels of humans as they venture into this landmark century with all the perils *you clearly are aware exist?*

Seems like the losing proposition

oh no, I'm completely against this IQ Communism 😄

i realise everyone plays their part

you need the average IQ people in a society

You won't stop this at all, no chance in hell, you can only hope to *guide the technological trajectory and the trajectory of applications*

you literally won't be able to combat the transhumanists with some lame status quo policy

that will not happen

there's too much hype

now you're resorting to an argument from inevitablility instead of stating how this is actually a positive thing.

at least my viewpoint allows that we stay humans, we remain largely as we are, we will become better in many aspects but humans after 100 years will live largely as they have hitherto

and about that, i might actually agree with you.. it might well be an inevitablility

yeah but I'm not going to be defeatist about this, fuck that, I spent too much time on that already

you can always choose to see the positives and ignore the negatives to create a rosy picture and have peace of mind

You have literally no alternative to offer, beyond defeatism

I say that defeats your argument on its own

I can point to a problem whilst not having a solution, yet..
pointing to the problem is still useful mate.

I am not sure that there exists a problem, if you mean by "problem" some kind of inevitable spiralling into AI dictatorship because we use nootropics and gene-editing....

not sure why this needs to be

It's not an AI Dictatorship, anyway..

Well you know what I mean

unpleasant future revolving around AI guided evolution

i think you have enough to think about from this, nobody changes their mind on the first go lol

where dumb humans have no problem with it

despite you and me and I think most people here already having evident problem with it

there is enough detatchment from the origin of the product and enough benefits that people won't care about the AI part..
AI part would be just like a warning you find on Cig Boxes

People like seeing themselves, and people they care about, engaged in impacting society. People do not enjoy some thing that has no connection to themselves, or people they care about, determining the future of the species. And why would they?

There's no reason to think this will happen

We must take precaution against it, of course

but there's fairly good chance that hammering the point that "if we aren't in control of our own species future, we don't have one" across will yield results

mostly because as an argument its *demonstrably true*

this is literally a topic of *sci fi dystopia novels*

people understand that this is not desirable

its been a STAPLE of such genres for decades

If you're actually interested in this and since a big part of your ideology seems to rest on this, you should read the Revolutionary Phenotype.

Not a big part of my ideology rests on this, the main concern is that people aren't going to be in control of the technology that displaces them and we'll end up in another kind of dystopia

There's no real non-communist approach to problems of automation and use of machine intelligence in economics. But this IQ stuff does very well as a matter of fact coincide with my ideology, so I have adopted it as well

anyway I need bloody sleep

signing off

"Revolutionary phenotype"
Jf shills begone!

CDS-PP (Christian Populists of Portugal):
Endorses gay marriage
Gay vice president

PCP (tankies): Literally beats up homosexuals
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Bonjour

@Dylan That's not Portuguese

Obviously not

Begone turkish shobe @Gerçek

https://youtu.be/9dOfQYBXJOI

@Khat Emperor me

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@Gerçek

stop bulli burr

this

@Khat Emperor do you have a critique of the Revolutionary Phenotype?

Yes, jf is a frog

Ad hominem: he may be a frog, but that doesn't mean he's wrong 😉

Im getting so many fearmongering videos on youtube

Theyre saying stuff like theres gonna be martial law after christmas during the govt shutdown

Dont know why theyre showing up now

Didn't the gov already shut down?

Partially i think

Literally nothing in my life has changed

New idea: shut down the gov for good

trump had a sudden jolt of baste once he demanded troops to leave syria

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seems suspicious?

The videos say that theres gonna be a national electric grid failure which is why NAIC i think its called posted instructions for what to do

wait? national electric grid failure

fuck yes

Seems bogus but it makes sense

But thats a terrible idea

fuck the internet

I rmember hurricane katrina where thousands died to people with guns

Then we'll hire a national electric grid repair company <:ancap:521375203893182472> <:ancap:521375203893182472>

Cuz they wanted food n stuff

The police were also bloodthirsty

the industrial revolution was a mistake

Eh i think we all know he's only now fulfilling his campaign promises so that way he can win re-election

Itll be either proof that trump is satan or trump is jesus

He can use martial law to kill us or arrest the deep state traitors

Its a interesting conspiracy but theres so many videos on it

Im convinced it might actually happen

I am sure it wont

trump uses martial law to kill civilians and use their bodies to make the wall

Who knows

These videos are also getting millions of views

Weird...

People love to assume WW3 will break out at the drop of a hat then years go by and all their predictions look retarded

I wish man

Im just not so sure anymore

I wish i was born 100 years earlier so i could live my life first lmao

im already considering leaving the US

Where shall you go

Anywhere but here

eastern europe, italy, maaaaaaaaybe lebanon

But i cant leave

@Orwell so Somalia

currently I cant leave

WW3 will come tho

I got no money : (

im in college

community at that

Last thing i can do is pray to jesus and hope hell accept me

so my best bet is probs going off the damn grid

I havent gone to church in a while

@Xinyue how likely that it will be initiated by Trump's wall funding thing

I'd say there's a 0% chance

People could drive off the grid

no, it won't be over that. I'd say it'd be over Eastern Europe, maybe Taiwan.

But what about food and stuff

hunting, farming

i presume

Do i sound like i know how to do that shiet

I wish i lived next to some rednecks

Primitive Technology looks like a guy who could go off the grid with nothing but a damn knife

I heard an interesting theory: eventually, perhaps during our lifetime, someone will fire a nuke and initiate a nuclear war. The war will be very brief and decisive. The US will definitely be involved, and less armed countries may team up against us as the nukes fly.

I think countries would stay as far awar from nukes as possible lol

If 2 countries had nuclear war the rest would stay away

Why have the white working class people of Europe been sold out to mass immigration and Cultural Marxism?

Because they were unreliable revolutionaries who rejected the advance of Bolshevism and actually fought against it to ensure that Europe remained free of Bolshevik tyranny. They were regarded as having a 'false consiousness.' Loyalty to country, culture, family, religion and a sense of ethnic identity were barriers to the revolution. Therefore they had to be replaced, their culture destroyed and their entire civilisation deconstructed in order for the revolution to succeed. This was done through the infiltration of all institutions that had influence over the minds of the European masses. It was done through the opening of European borders to the third-world. It was done by the destruction of the family and the promotion of sexual anarchy.

> Cultural Marxism

**Siiiiiiiigh**

Let's imagine for the sake of argument that North Korea is the perpetrator, although that seems less likely now. They might be supported by other "Communist" countries like China, who knows. Anyway in this scenario the US, NK, and China would almost certainly be hit by nukes.

@Xinyue 🤔

"Cultural Marxism" is a *literal oxymoron*

If this is a reasonable theory, the best place for you and me to live is outside of any countries that are nuclear equipped, powerful and aggressive, like the US, to avoid being killed in the nuclear war.

Some minor country that nobody cares about would probably escape unscathed

Yeah

Yes, small places that are remote and insignificant are best bets for survival. I actually think quite a bit of Africa qualifies (because there are no major nuclear strike targets there, due to incredibly low level of regional military power), and places like St. Helena island and such

I want to go back to the Philippines

One of the only safe places

Philippines I think will be struck in any event of nuclear war, because it remains a hub for US military activities.

Or i could be a jew and go to israel

Only downside of Africa is...it's Africa.

Didnt phil reject the US in favor of China

I remember Duterte being pissed about Obama

Places like Namibia, Botswana and Ghana aren't *too bad* @Deleted User It might be worth consideration

Have fun

Cuz he wouldnt supply firearms against the drug war

Phil would rather ally with russia and china

I might prefer to take my chances in nukeville

I rmember those tribes people that have the island to themselves

Botswana for example has a high level of Human Development Index, and is also one of the very stable countries in the region that doesn't suffer from unrest or violence

Those guys are the real winners

As I said, have fun.

You couldn't pay me enough to move there.

A one world israel government

There are terrorists attacking christians there

Oh jeez

Lol is it a guarantee that someone will nuke Israel during the chaos

Theyll be the ones doing the nuking use some other country's flag

Didnt they try to get Russia to fight Syria a few days ago

Lmao

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FKplabTRuak#

Went to primary school today and the Cultural Marxism they had there was terrifying.

There were some kids that bullied another child and they were punished.

This just goes against any form of natural White Working Class Person behaviour.

They are trying to remould our children and this is a problem we have to face head on.

Hello!

Cultural Marxism and (((Teachers))) and (((That stupid lunch lady that didn't give me enough meatloaf))) need to be eradicated.

@LazzarusHorse Good evening comrade.

"Comrade"... Sounds quite Marxist to me. "But that's OK" (Trump, UN).

We need to (((appropriate))) all (((words))) spoken (((by))) Cultural Marxists.

Only then we can defeat them.

Of course!

In order to stop (((them))) we must become (((them)))

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Take the Pinocchio Pill.

Grow a nose.

Look at this crap

Theyre all showing up now

>civil race war

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Did youtube get bought by accelerationist jews

Youtube tends to bring up the recommendations based on what you search.

So far I'm not surprised.

Very strange...

Trump is going to become the God Emperor

or

concerning if this turns out to be real

They will Kennedy him

He can do whatever he wants as long as i get to eat drink and move around

Inb4 trump was the bad guy all along

4d chess was played

Trump was the Big Jew all along

inb4 this still would have happened if clinton won

Itd be worse i think

Most members in congress are blackmailed or bought

That is Trump's Legacy.. It's the same but less bad.

Republicans and dems both want war in Syria

Media hates trump

There are snakes everywhere

🐍 no tred on me

perhaps hes pulling out of syria to justify lowering of military funding so he can fund the wall..?

Or maybe cuz he needs an army for martial law

Hmmmmm

@Gerçek

me?

good, now youre under the boot

i specifically asked the opposite of this

```🐍no tred on me```

Inb4 literally nobody left in congress after trumps term

It does struck as weird why Kavanaugh was demonized so much

Its almost as if hes that important

The media just needs something to make money lol

It’s not some big conspiracy

trump's existance funds the media

The media is funded

By those jewish backers

them too

But they still need to get people to watch to make money lol

So far i only trust tucker carlson or whatever his name is in mainstream

lmao

Kavanaugh is not some Libertarian or Reactionary Judge/Lawyer.. he used to work for the Bushes

Anyone else is fake

Independent news sources are also getting more popular

the current state of the media was perfectly shown during the yellow vest shit

they get a mere mention, and then its followed up by TRUMP DID A DO

US politics is so divided rn

The media has succeeded in dividing the US people

All part of gay Soros and Rothschilds plan

what's the plan

Basically replace the US with zionist puppets

And have the people support them

@Orwell so they succeeded

Trump is like 50/50

Idk what to think anymore tbh